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    Third cycle after a year and a half off

    Alright guys need some expertise.

    Iím 28, 6í1Ē, around 230 lbs, and feeling great. Controlled high blood pressure by Lisinopril. Diet is good and steady, Iíve been running around 300 to 500 calorie deficits each day except Saturday (my mental health cheat day) haha.

    Iím finally ready to start back up and do it the right way this time. I swapped careers and have been very limited with time to focus on training but finally back in and going hard.

    Iím looking to eat away at this excess fat I carry around my mid section and gain muscle mass. I was pretty happy with my results from my first cycle strength wise but did really get the size I was looking for.

    My first two cycles were pushed by a gym buddy that I found out just needed money and didnít know as much about juicing as he portrayed. I was young dumb and excited so I went along. I got lucky I didnít mess up.

    First cycle was:
    Test E 250mg/week (three injections)
    EQ 200mg/week (two injection)
    Winstrol liquid 3cc/day (1cc three times daily)
    20mg of Nolvadex liquid as a pct.

    Second cycle was the same with Tren added in and Winstrol removed.

    Any recommendations on what to try this go round since Iím actually doing it properly?

    I was considering Test only but really donít want to waste time on that since I started a little farther in.

    Maybe
    Test E 250/week
    HCG 500/week
    Amiridex .25mg/every other day

    And add Deca in? And at what dosage?


    Thanks for the help guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamd1 View Post
    Alright guys need some expertise.

    Iím 28, 6í1Ē, around 230 lbs, and feeling great. Controlled high blood pressure by Lisinopril. Diet is good and steady, Iíve been running around 300 to 500 calorie deficits each day except Saturday (my mental health cheat day) haha.

    Iím finally ready to start back up and do it the right way this time. I swapped careers and have been very limited with time to focus on training but finally back in and going hard.

    Iím looking to eat away at this excess fat I carry around my mid section and gain muscle mass. I was pretty happy with my results from my first cycle strength wise but did really get the size I was looking for.

    My first two cycles were pushed by a gym buddy that I found out just needed money and didnít know as much about juicing as he portrayed. I was young dumb and excited so I went along. I got lucky I didnít mess up.

    First cycle was:
    Test E 250mg/week (three injections)
    EQ 200mg/week (two injection)
    Winstrol liquid 3cc/day (1cc three times daily)
    20mg of Nolvadex liquid as a pct.

    Second cycle was the same with Tren added in and Winstrol removed.

    Any recommendations on what to try this go round since Iím actually doing it properly?

    I was considering Test only but really donít want to waste time on that since I started a little farther in.

    Maybe
    Test E 250/week
    HCG 500/week
    Amiridex .25mg/every other day

    And add Deca in? And at what dosage?


    Thanks for the help guys.
    A lighter cycle run properly will produce more results than heavier cycles run willy nilly with no action plan.

    Something simple like low Test + one other compound and remove the AI all together.

    For PCT I would be running both Nolva and Clomid. I also would source pharma SERMs from domestic or a pharmacy overseas where its legal.

    Liquid SERMs are the worst option in my opinion because they are harder to manufacture than an UGL just pressing tabs and dosing is off a lot of the time. You don't want to leave something as critical as PCT up to luck from a random research chemical website. If you can't source pharmacy grade (which you should provided you put the time in) the next best option is UGL.

    I would not use Deca unless you are willingly to accept the risk of being on HRT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    A lighter cycle run properly will produce more results than heavier cycles run willy nilly with no action plan.

    Something simple like low Test + one other compound and remove the AI all together.

    For PCT I would be running both Nolva and Clomid. I also would source pharma SERMs from domestic or a pharmacy overseas where its legal.

    Liquid SERMs are the worst option in my opinion because they are harder to manufacture than an UGL just pressing tabs and dosing is off a lot of the time. You don't want to leave something as critical as PCT up to luck from a random research chemical website. If you can't source pharmacy grade (which you should provided you put the time in) the next best option is UGL.

    I would not use Deca unless you are willingly to accept the risk of being on HRT.
    Thanks for the info Win. Is there any specific compound that you would recommend to go with the Test? Also would you consider the Test E 250 a good start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamd1 View Post
    Thanks for the info Win. Is there any specific compound that you would recommend to go with the Test? Also would you consider the Test E 250 a good start?
    Masteron , Primobolan , Winstrol , and Anavar would all work. EQ is another option but I am not a fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Masteron, Primobolan, Winstrol, and Anavar would all work. EQ is another option but I am not a fan.
    I’ve decided to go with Test E and Mast E. Trying to come up with the best dosage. Every one seems to have a different idea. How would this work:

    Test E 500mg/week 1-12 weeks (Monday and Thursday)
    Mast E 500mg/week 1-12 weeks (Monday and Thursday)
    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

    What do you think? Any changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamd1 View Post
    Iíve decided to go with Test E and Mast E. Trying to come up with the best dosage. Every one seems to have a different idea. How would this work:

    Test E 500mg/week 1-12 weeks (Monday and Thursday)
    Mast E 500mg/week 1-12 weeks (Monday and Thursday)
    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

    What do you think? Any changes?
    I would do test at 600 and mast at 400, but there's nothing wrong w it, that's just my personal preference.
    You don't list an AI, which is fine, just be sure to have some on hand.
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    How about this one:

    Test E @ 250 mg PW 1-12
    Mast E @ 400 mg PW 1-12
    EQ @ 600 mg PW 1-10 (you can do 12 weeks too but I just don't like to keep my body without testosterone floating while I am waiting for PCT, EQ is a long ester and you'll have to wait longer for PCT if you do 12 weeks)

    Kickstarting with an oral could be an option too.
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    If it was me I would do

    200-250mg of Test
    600 Masteron
    30-40mg of Anavar

    I don't like high test personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The God Himself View Post
    How about this one:

    Test E 250 mg PW 1-12
    Mast E 400 mg PW 1-12
    EQ 600 mg PW 1-10 (you can do 12 weeks too but I just don't like to keep my body without testosterone floating while I am waiting for PCT, EQ is a long ester and you'll have to wait longer for PCT if you do 12 weeks)

    Kickstarting with an oral could be an option too.
    I think this what I’m going to go with. I liked EQ when I ran it before.

    Thanks guys! I’ll post up when I get everything in and get ready to run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamd1 View Post
    I think this what I’m going to go with. I liked EQ when I ran it before.

    Thanks guys! I’ll post up when I get everything in and get ready to run.
    Please do make a log!! I love watching guys progress! Good luck man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    Please do make a log!! I love watching guys progress! Good luck man
    Thanks man! I definitely will. I think this will be a good one. I’ve always had good results.
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