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    Planning my first cycle.It will be Test only.Should I use Test Cyp only or can I use a blend of different esters?Gonna go 12 weeks at 500 mg per week with 2 mg of anastrozole and 500 iu of HCG .Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfdept59 View Post
    Planning my first cycle.It will be Test only.Should I use Test Cyp only or can I use a blend of different esters?Gonna go 12 weeks at 500 mg per week with 2 mg of anastrozole and 500 iu of HCG.Thanks

    Going to depend on your pinning cycle. Iíd stay away from blends for simplicityís sake. KISS.
    I like long esters like cyp or enth. Iíd pin 250 on Sun and 250 on Weds/Th. Iíve had luck front loading (doubling down the first week - 1000 msg week 1) although thereís mixed reviews on doing such. Itís anecdotal but Iíve noticed the effects quicker.
    Also, Iíd hold off on the anastrozole. 2 mgs. is overkill in my opinion and honestly I believe itís overused. I personally never run any..
    Any gyno history?
    500 iuís of Hcg is fine. Could probably get away with 250, but Iím ok with 500.

    Also. Stats, lifting experience? TRT? Goals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfdept59 View Post
    Planning my first cycle.It will be Test only.Should I use Test Cyp only or can I use a blend of different esters?Gonna go 12 weeks at 500 mg per week with 2 mg of anastrozole and 500 iu of HCG.Thanks
    If this is your first cycle make sure you have an AI on hand as well as all your pct drugs. Aromasin seems to be a bit better than anastr
    But that’s just me. Can’t gon wrong with cypionate for a first cycle. Good luck!

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    On TRT from a doc.150 mg. Test Cyp per week with anastozole blended in with the test.I have been on TRT for 6 months and training 5 days per week.The TRT is working really good,strength is up body fat is down and lost 4 inches in my waist.Ready for my cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfdept59 View Post
    On TRT from a doc.150 mg. Test Cyp per week with anastozole blended in with the test.I have been on TRT for 6 months and training 5 days per week.The TRT is working really good,strength is up body fat is down and lost 4 inches in my waist.Ready for my cycle.
    What is your age, weight and body fat and height ?

    When was your last and when is the next round of bloodwork ?

    6 months of TRT is still very fresh. I would personally focus on dialling in HRT before cycling otherwise your going to end up restarting your HRT process so to speak.

    Most people (and doctors) think TRT is just Testosterone . There's a few who will also prescribe HCG .

    Test + HCG is a very mediocre and poor program in my opinion. Took me years to figure that out.
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    51 yrs. old,5'8" 180 lbs. 14% bf. Blood work June 6,next blood test in October

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfdept59 View Post
    Planning my first cycle.It will be Test only.Should I use Test Cyp only or can I use a blend of different esters?Gonna go 12 weeks at 500 mg per week with 2 mg of anastrozole and 500 iu of HCG.Thanks
    Ya man that’s way too much AI! Keep it on hand but it’s highly unlikely you will even need it. I also agree you should just stick to the cyp or ent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Going to depend on your pinning cycle. I’d stay away from blends for simplicity’s sake. KISS.
    I like long esters like cyp or enth. I’d pin 250 on Sun and 250 on Weds/Th. I’ve had luck front loading (doubling down the first week - 1000 msg week 1) although there’s mixed reviews on doing such. It’s anecdotal but I’ve noticed the effects quicker.
    Also, I’d hold off on the anastrozole. 2 mgs. is overkill in my opinion and honestly I believe it’s overused. I personally never run any..
    Any gyno history?
    500 iu’s of Hcg is fine. Could probably get away with 250, but I’m ok with 500.

    Also. Stats, lifting experience? TRT? Goals?
    I don’t belibe it’s anecdotal that front loading gets your levels up much quicker. If you graph it out it’s pretty cut and dry. So I really don’t see why a person wouldn’t front load with a longer ester...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfdept59 View Post
    51 yrs. old,5'8" 180 lbs. 14% bf. Blood work June 6,next blood test in October
    I would wait until october. If you start your 12 week cycle in July you are cutting it pretty close to get an accurate bloodwork reading - unless you keep Test @ TRT and run something like Masteron , Primo, or EQ with it.

    At your age I would investigate HGH. Depending on how your insurance or benefits are set up it can be quite lucrative.
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    Out of the 3,Mast Primo or EQ what do you recommend and how many mg per week for 12 weeks?Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    What is your age, weight and body fat and height ?

    When was your last and when is the next round of bloodwork ?

    6 months of TRT is still very fresh. I would personally focus on dialling in HRT before cycling otherwise your going to end up restarting your HRT process so to speak.

    Most people (and doctors) think TRT is just Testosterone . There's a few who will also prescribe HCG .

    Test + HCG is a very mediocre and poor program in my opinion. Took me years to figure that out.

    Why is test + HCG a poor program?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Why is test + HCG a poor program?
    Because it only controls 3 hormones out of all the several hormones in the male body. It also doesn't help with any hormone signalling pathways or anything at the receptor level (Calciferol + cofactors are needed for that).

    the protocol has no way to help with joints, tendons, inflammation, or ligaments or cortisone (Nandrolone needed).


    The protocol has no ability to control SHBG if that's a concern (Stanazolol needed).

    the protocol can not assist in preventative recovery, sleep, or supplementary fat oxidation (HGH, BPC157, TB500)

    The protocol cannot assist in estrogen Optimization without cancer drugs (Need DIM and DHEA.

    The program is not osteo-protective (Primobolan )
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