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    Pro-hormone cycle question

    I picked up the Ultimate Shred stack from STEEL supplements which includes:

    3-EPI-ANDO3 - Epiandrosterone
    7,3-ANDRO3 - Androsterone


    I have run one AAS cycle in the past (500 Test E for 12 weeks) and am planning my second cycle.

    I plan on using these pro-hormones that I got and have just started taking them twice a day for 30 days then taking off about 2 months and running my second AAS cycle of Test E and Dbol .

    My question is, with these pro-hormones, I got them online, I didn't realize initially that I will need to perform a PCT routine.
    I know how to do PCT for normal AAS, how should I go about PCT for these? Also will they shut me down enough to the point where I should be using HCG on this pro-hormone cycle? Lastly, is there anything additional I should be taking with them like Milk Thistle etc.?

    All help is sincerely appreciated.

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    You should be taking at least a replacement amount (150mg/wk) of testosterone as pro hormones are suppressive

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    You should be taking at least a replacement amount (150mg/wk) of testosterone as pro hormones are suppressive
    I've only ever run Test E but I happen to have a bottle of Test Prop on hand that I could use for this.

    So I should run 150mg Test Prop /w along the pro hormones.

    And how about PCT for this? I'm only doing it for 30 days while these bottles of pills last me. Any Ideas?

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    Sell the ProHormones and buy real gear. They are useless and worse than oral steroids .

    Do more research, seems you lack the basic fundamentals to be using gear
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    one bottle of steel sups 1-Andro is like $100 for 60 caps , which is like a 20-30 days supply at most .

    just think of how much test, Dbol or Winstrol you could of bought for that price (3x as much) and gotten 10x the gains

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    Why mess with that crap? Just stick to the real thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    one bottle of steel sups 1-Andro is like $100 for 60 caps , which is like a 20-30 days supply at most .

    just think of how much test, Dbol or Winstrol you could of bought for that price (3x as much) and gotten 10x the gains
    I understand this, assuming I can not sell them or return them and already shelled out the keesh, at that point I might as well just use them up this once. I wouldn't purchase them again. To be honest I was just looking for something to take while dieting and I've used other STEEL supps before and just said fuck it and got the ultimate shred stack not paying much attention.

    Now I realize that if I am going to use them, I should at least run some test alongside and do some PCT after which is why I am looking for some answers to those questions. I am just going to use them until they are gone (30 days) I get that they are not ideal but this is the position I am currently in and could use a little advice given the situation.

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    So if you have heroine sitting around you might as well use it? Throw it in the trash.
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    Thanks for the advice, I guess I'll just have to figure it out

    It's 30 days, not worrying or expecting much maybe some fat loss and hardening out.

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    Prohormones, assuming you got good ones, are likely to need the same PCT as AAS. Clomid nolva etc, plenty of info on this.

    Edit: just saw where you ran previous AAS cycle with PCT. I'm going out on a limb here and saying that your PCT for AAS will be the same for Prohoromone cycle. I think this is a pretty sturdy limb, though, as at least some of prohomone peddlers say 'you will need a pct like nolva and clomid' on their sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ready2Rumble View Post
    Thanks for the advice, I guess I'll just have to figure it out

    It's 30 days, not worrying or expecting much maybe some fat loss and hardening out.
    If you’re set on taking them, why not just work
    them into a regular cycle like you’d run an oral for
    the first 4 weeks or so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    If you’re set on taking them, why not just work
    them into a regular cycle like you’d run an oral for
    the first 4 weeks or so?
    This, assuming you can't sell them, seems like the best alternative. You said that you are already planning your second cycle, so maybe just wait until that is a go and use the ph like ISC suggested.

    I'm guessing that NAC would be sufficient for liver protection, exact dosages I can't comment on. That's one of the problems with prohormones: they don't really have the research to back them up and help us understand them. Lots of people use them and get 'great results' but there is very little unbiased data on the subject, relative to AAS.

    And I can speak to prohormones to some degree from personal experience. Back in... what, the late 90s, whenever the McGwire / Sosa home run race was going on, I did a 6 week cycle of 19-norandrostenedione. Listen, we didn't know any better then, ok? :P

    Anyhow, I experienced what I now know to be shutdown and also some great strength gains. Should I have PCT'ed? Oh yeah for sure but I was young enough at the time to recover naturally.

    And that concludes my way overpriced 2 cents on this subject

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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    This, assuming you can't sell them, seems like the best alternative. You said that you are already planning your second cycle, so maybe just wait until that is a go and use the ph like ISC suggested.

    I'm guessing that NAC would be sufficient for liver protection, exact dosages I can't comment on. That's one of the problems with prohormones: they don't really have the research to back them up and help us understand them. Lots of people use them and get 'great results' but there is very little unbiased data on the subject, relative to AAS.

    And I can speak to prohormones to some degree from personal experience. Back in... what, the late 90s, whenever the McGwire / Sosa home run race was going on, I did a 6 week cycle of 19-norandrostenedione. Listen, we didn't know any better then, ok? :P

    Anyhow, I experienced what I now know to be shutdown and also some great strength gains. Should I have PCT'ed? Oh yeah for sure but I was young enough at the time to recover naturally.

    And that concludes my way overpriced 2 cents on this subject
    I remember this. Andro was the shit when I was like 15. Then later on 1-Test (which I think was methyl testosterone if I’m not mistaken) and Superdrol. But by that time I already had access to the real thing so I never tried that.

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    Throw them in the trash.

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