Few questions before I start my blast.

So coming off 200 mg test e cruise and about to do a blast of test e and npp. Got a few questions. Done fair share of blasts in the past.

1. Dosages?
Usually run test e 750 and npp 400 but thinking about lowering the dosages. 500 test e and npp 300 to start with. Or even go lower on the test?

2 Ai ?
All the ai posts on here got me thinking.ahbe hold of on the ai and just keep on hand in case I need it. Usually use it from the start but test 500 might now even need it correct?

3. Any other support supps?
Ai on hand
Cialis take it pre gym to help bp and pump
Vitamins and stuff
Anything else you guys like to have?

4. Blood donation.
Have only given blood once in like 6 years while cruising and blasting. Should I do a donation prior to the blast. Do you guys go regularly? Can I go donate during or will my lipids be all messed up.

Thanks for any of your input

I'd run the NPP at 100mg EOD . which equates to 350mg per week. 500mg of test is fine, if your looking for a mild cycle and not totally relying on it to blow you up. but if your wanting to Test to work some real ''magic'' for you, especially being you've been running gear for 6 years , that number should be up 1000+mg of test per week. thats the range that test seems to really display a lot more anabolic properties.
yeah I know some guys will say they get great gains off only 500mg of test ,, but why do the guys that say that always look the same for the last 3 years

500mg of test , unlikely to require an AI . heck I run 2000mg of test and don't use an AI. its not "required" at any dose. your much better off having Nolvadex on hand. Especially being your running a 19 nor (npp). 19 nors are progestinic and will sensitize you to estrogen . this is not the same as converting to estrogen , they don't convert (ie Aromatize), so an AI is not going to do anything here. doesn't matter if your E levels are high or low, through the progestin receptor they can have estrogenic side effects . only Nolva would be able to help in this situation, an AI won't do crap .

guys take 19 nors and end up getting gyno even though they were taking an AI and they think their arimidex was fake , even though it was legit. its cause they don't understand how this stuff works.. they should of been taking a SERM like Nolva, not an AI


as for sups . you should be taking the base supplements for your health wither your on cycle or off cycle. makes no difference. theres nothing special about being on cycle that requires special sups . take your health support sups year round.


as for blood donation. its all fine and dandy and a good deed to donate blood once in a while . so go ahead.. however its not a "needed" thing just cause you use AAS , unless your hematocrit is high along with high blood platelet count

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

I'd run the NPP at 100mg EOD . which equates to 350mg per week. 500mg of test is fine, if your looking for a mild cycle and not totally relying on it to blow you up. but if your wanting to Test to work some real ''magic'' for you, especially being you've been running gear for 6 years , that number should be up 1000+mg of test per week. thats the range that test seems to really display a lot more anabolic properties.
yeah I know some guys will say they get great gains off only 500mg of test ,, but why do the guys that say that always look the same for the last 3 years

500mg of test , unlikely to require an AI . heck I run 2000mg of test and don't use an AI. its not "required" at any dose. your much better off having Nolvadex on hand. Especially being your running a 19 nor (npp). 19 nors are progestinic and will sensitize you to estrogen . this is not the same as converting to estrogen , they don't convert (ie Aromatize), so an AI is not going to do anything here. doesn't matter if your E levels are high or low, through the progestin receptor they can have estrogenic side effects . only Nolva would be able to help in this situation, an AI won't do crap .

guys take 19 nors and end up getting gyno even though they were taking an AI and they think their arimidex was fake , even though it was legit. its cause they don't understand how this stuff works.. they should of been taking a SERM like Nolva, not an AI


as for sups . you should be taking the base supplements for your health wither your on cycle or off cycle. makes no difference. theres nothing special about being on cycle that requires special sups . take your health support sups year round.


as for blood donation. its all fine and dandy and a good deed to donate blood once in a while . so go ahead.. however its not a "needed" thing just cause you use AAS , unless your hematocrit is high along with high blood platelet count

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Thanks for the response. Yea whole reason for lower cycle is I don't want to have to run an ai. But still want a quality cycle.

Prob should donate went for blood work few months ago and rbc was high

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Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf250

Thanks for the response. Yea whole reason for lower cycle is I don't want to have to run an ai. But still want a quality cycle.

Prob should donate went for blood work few months ago and rbc was high

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well yeah you can run 5 grams of gear per week and never have to run an AI . depends on how you set up your cycle and what compounds you run.
I mean heck , 90% of the AAS compounds that are available to us don't even aromatize to estrogen in the first place.

the idea that you 'have to' run an AI when you use AAS was originally propagated by drug dealers that make a ton of profit margin on AI's . heck between expensive AI's and the cost of PCT , thats most of the cost of your whole cycle . a bottle of test prop is only $15 . but your cost on AI's and PCT is going to be like $200 . guarantee you they want to sell you the AIs and the PCT where they make their high profit margins then sell you a bottle of test prop

plus don't forget about the GAINS . thats the whole purpose of running a cycle. using an AI is not going to help with that department

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...-ai-usage.html

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

plus don't forget about the GAINS . thats the whole purpose of running a cycle. using an AI is not going to help with that department

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...-ai-usage.html

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Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf250

Cialis take it pre gym to help bp and pump

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Interested to know how you using Cialis to help BP?

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Originally Posted by Dgs59

Interested to know how you using Cialis to help BP?

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Originally was made to help lower bp before they found out it had another effect.

5 mg Ed helps my bp

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Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf250

Originally was made to help lower bp before they found out it had another effect.

5 mg Ed helps my bp

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Righto, are you on any other BP meds?

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Righto, are you on any other BP meds?

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Nah not at the moment. Able to control it with diet and cardio for the most part. Down the line the older I get im sure I'll prob have to go on something.

Never ran an oral though. Should I maybe toss in an oral for this one. Any suggestions?

adding Dbol to test and NPP is always a valid option

Any sarms that'd go good. I'm pretty knew to the whole sarm thing at the moment

LGD40 is my go to SARM .. Oral works fine, injectible works better. 20-30mg per day will add quite a bit of anabolic load to your cycle . Dbol is way cheaper though . Sarms generally run in the price range of var and primo

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

LGD40 is my go to SARM .. Oral works fine, injectible works better. 20-30mg per day will add quite a bit of anabolic load to your cycle . Dbol is way cheaper though . Sarms generally run in the price range of var and primo

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Thanks I'll look into it. Is that something I should save after I blast to go along with cruise dose or use it during blast?

Also..

Anyone ever use any Blackstone labs products. They state they are "sarms". My buddy works for them and always offers me free shit but seems like prob bs products but maybe I'm wrong

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Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf250

Thanks I'll look into it.

Anyone ever use any Blackstone labs products. They state they are "sarms". My buddy works for them and always offers me free shit but seems like prob bs products but maybe I'm wrong

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I'm a Blackstone Labs retailer (thats the brand I mainly carry at my gym).. yes some of there "pro hormone" compounds are pretty strong actually.

my wife has ran several cycles over the years (Var, NPP, Winny, even low dose Dbol). and has never got a negative side effect. however one time when she was off cycle she started taking a Blackstone labs pro hormone sup (one that was not supposed to be androgenic just anabolic) ,, well in a week her voice deepened and she starting getting steroid like side effects . she immediately stopped taking it (I of course immediately started taking it).


BUT . having said all that . you'll get way more bang for your buck running real oral AAS . a bottle of Dbol is like 25$ ,, these sarms and otc sups are going to be like 70-100$ a bottle

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

I'm a Blackstone Labs retailer (thats the brand I mainly carry at my gym).. yes some of there "pro hormone" compounds are pretty strong actually.

my wife has ran several cycles over the years (Var, NPP, Winny, even low dose Dbol). and has never got a negative side effect. however one time when she was off cycle she started taking a Blackstone labs pro hormone sup (one that was not supposed to be androgenic just anabolic) ,, well in a week her voice deepened and she starting getting steroid like side effects . she immediately stopped taking it (I of course immediately started taking it).


BUT . having said all that . you'll get way more bang for your buck running real oral AAS . a bottle of Dbol is like 25$ ,, these sarms and otc sups are going to be like 70-100$ a bottle

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Any you reccommend might give it a try seeing as my buddy can hook me up with some free ones

Just want to add something to the test and npp . Something give me lean gains don't want to blow up and hold a shit ton of water weight

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Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf250

Any you reccommend might give it a try seeing as my buddy can hook me up with some free ones

Just want to add something to the test and npp . Something give me lean gains don't want to blow up and hold a shit ton of water weight

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to add anabolic load to your cycle , you could use 'Abnormal' (thats what my wife used). to add more androgenic load to your cycle you could use 'chosen 1' or 'brutal 4orce'

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to add anabolic load to your cycle , you could use 'Abnormal' (thats what my wife used). to add more androgenic load to your cycle you could use 'chosen 1' or 'brutal 4orce'

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Cool thanks man I'll look into them. Are they ph's?

All the ph I used in the past always had hair shedding trying not to get that again

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Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf250

Cool thanks man I'll look into them. Are they ph's?

All the ph I used in the past always had hair shedding trying not to get that again

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if your DHT/androgen sensitive (ie, hair shredding) , then only use the Abnormal which is more DHN biased and not DHT biased

Note-- thats just based on information available .. keep in mind, supplement companies don't really have to disclose shit about what their products do or don't do . where as actual steroids, that have gotten FDA approval and have been developed by phmamaceuitcal companies with tons of backing and research , have to release actual pharmacology on the drugs they produce .

your not going to find any real pharmacology or research on an OTC prohormone like "Abnormal" from Blackstone labs . so when I tell you its not androgenic , I have nothing to go by other then their advertising and their word.
with real steroids, its a different story and I can give you advice based on scientific and medical evidence and published pharmacology

Thanks brotha. Might just stick with the test and npp. Not too knowledgeable in the saem category but def interested. Feel like I just need to do a bit more research.

Can I still have a decent cycle with just the test and npp. I've ran a fair share of cycles and always increased my dosages but this will be a fairly mild cycle for me.

Npp is a great compound . 500mg is a high TRT dose for guys that have been running gear for awhile (1000+mg is where Test gets really anabolic for experienced guys) imo. but NPP with that dose of Test should yield some nice steady quality gains if your diet and training and recovery are on point.
now sure, your not going to "blow up" and shock people. but you should get some decent quality gains and have little to no side effects

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

Npp is a great compound . 500mg is a high TRT dose for guys that have been running gear for awhile (1000+mg is where Test gets really anabolic for experienced guys) imo. but NPP with that dose of Test should yield some nice steady quality gains if your diet and training and recovery are on point.
now sure, your not going to "blow up" and shock people. but you should get some decent quality gains and have little to no side effects

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Sounds good thanks man. Still tempted to throw in an oral. Never have only used ph's back in the day.