I need a volunteer - coaching for free

[Windex]

It's a spicy idea. I switched my nutrition focus to micronutrients a while back - and now I spend $800+ Canadian per month on food (grass fed steak alone is $400/month).

If you had one of the vets bite, that would be interesting to follow. I think the financial roadblock along with drug + training experience level is going to prohibit majority of the board from qualifying. Which makes sense because it would otherwise be wasting your time.

[Family_guy]

It's a spicy idea. I switched my nutrition focus to micronutrients a while back - and now I spend $800+ Canadian per month on food (grass fed steak alone is $400/month).

If you had one of the vets bite, that would be interesting to follow. I think the financial roadblock along with drug + training experience level is going to prohibit majority of the board from qualifying. Which makes sense because it would otherwise be wasting your time.

You should do it windex!

[Family_guy]

I love this kinda stuff! You don’t get this anywhere else. Gotta love GH. I’m still in the newb gain phase for sure plus I’m anything but committed on my diet at the moment... :/

[Windex]

You should do it windex!

Well oral steroids and narcotics don't mix, and I just came off 1200mg of Tren.

Plus I don't have any confidence in using Insulin. Already dodged one kiss from lady death using DNP.

[djnuffsaid]

GH check your PM about moving forward.

[Family_guy]

GH check your PM about moving forward.

Awww shit! I’m excited to see this lol

[charger69]

. Already dodged one kiss from lady death using DNP.

Please expound.


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[Windex]

Please expound.


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Below.

I had :

- Tachypnea (Resting respiratory rate was 40)
- Supraventricular Tachycardia (Resting Heart rate was 135).
- Hyperthermia (Body temp was 104)

All at once. My body was shutting down. On paper I should have died.

[charger69]

Below.

I had :

- Tachypnea (Resting respiratory rate was 40)
- Supraventricular Tachycardia (Resting Heart rate was 135).
- Hyperthermia (Body temp was 104)

All at once. My body was shutting down. On paper I should have died.

Fuck- was there something that you did wrong? What caused this?


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[GearHeaded]

resurrecting this thread..

still need a volunteer. yes the diet and drugs are going to be expensive. but the coaching is free.

please don't volunteer unless your in a position to run a cycle, train your ass off, put on size, and have plenty of $ to pay for the food (we are talking steaks, lamb, bison, salmon, clams, scallops etc..).

this is an expensive diet. its super nutrient dense and nutrients cost $ but they also build muscle.. the drugs are also likely pricey , HGH and Primo are ideal but also very costly..
but heck you know how many guys pay Chris Aceto or some other high level coach 6000$ for a contest prep ,, plus have to buy the high quality food hgh and primo.

[charger69]

Come on Guys..... for the name of science!!!



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[i_SLAM_cougars]

Come on Guys..... for the name of science!!!



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You may as well catch a few free months Charger. I think you’re the only one consistent enough to do this.

[Charlie67]

GH, I'm always up for a challenge but HGH is beyond me... probably. If we dropped that I'd be interested in talking about the rest. Regardless, looking forward to seeing someone step up.

Best,
C-

[GearHeaded]

GH, I'm always up for a challenge but HGH is beyond me... probably. If we dropped that I'd be interested in talking about the rest. Regardless, looking forward to seeing someone step up.

Best,
C-

we can drop the HGH ,, but you gotta at least consider MK677 then

plus your an older experienced well trained guy (from what I know) so the gains you get are going to be 100% legit and not a fluke

[JaneDoe]

I would like to have a coach like GearHeaded..

[JaneDoe]

At the moment I can't spend much on diet and AAS

[JaneDoe]

[Fiskevatten]

I'm interested, but I don't think I qualify.

Since I don't know the program fully, I can't comment on cost for gear or food yet.
I will live in Thailand for the duration and have contacts for UG gear.
Traveling until mid feb, then I'm free so far for the rest of the year (2020)
I also have power pct in my background, feels and looks stable now.
No past experience with a heavy cycle.

Would be fun to prepare for something like this in any other case!

[Charlie67]

we can drop the HGH ,, but you gotta at least consider MK677 then

plus your an older experienced well trained guy (from what I know) so the gains you get are going to be 100% legit and not a fluke

I can do MK, I'll PM you and we can talk details and maybe it'll work out for me. You're right, I'm older 48... mediocre to poorly trained tho .

I'll PM you shortly.
C-

[GearHeaded]

just to clarify things a bit

I know exactly what works. thats kinda my job and why I have had lots of paying clients over the years that got amazing results.. I'm sure clients of mine that are members here can speak to that fact.
I can't in good faith "experiment" on a paying client. I've gotta resort to the tried and true systems I already know and have learned over many years. if I coach you, my goal is to get you results. period. I can't take your $ and experiment on you with my own theories, I can only do what I know works.

SO .. this the only reason I'm making this suggestion and offer and coaching someone for free for 12 weeks. I have a theory mainly on micro nutrition and how that relates to the efficiency of AAS use and training. but I've never tested it out and I'm not in a position to test it out myself ( I simply can't afford it right now and I have digestion problems I'm trying to fix)

I know for fact 1500mg of test per week and 100mg of Anadrol per day, with 40iu of insulin and eating pop tarts pre and post workout is going to blow you up..
but so what. thats not the point here


I want to see if the co factors of micro nutrients from an extremely well balanced diet make less drugs work better. I want to factor in way more then carbs, protein and fats. I'm factoring in the amount of b vitamins, iron, choline, selenium, magnesium etc.. because these are the 'co factors' that actually stimulate anabolic processes in the body.

yes I know 100mg of anadrol per day with 40iu of slin and 4 pop tarts will "blow you up" .. but I want to see if low doses, well planned and executed, with all the micro nutrition dialed in, and using mild side effect free compounds like Primo will blow you up.
also want to see that combined with an extremely well planned training system that has a recovery based focus


so this is essentially the idea..
chicken and rice with pop tarts post workout and being a bro and doing bro splits and taking bro doses of gear and bro stuff.. does that work.
or does eating everything perfectly with just the right amount of micro nutrition dialed in perfectly and nutrient timing dialed in perfectly to help your training and drugs work way more optimal


I personally think that right amount of micro nutrition, with the proper drugs and training and optimizing recovery is going to work far better for long term quality gains. but thats not going to be cheap.. fucking insulin, Anadrol, and pop tarts are cheap. Primo HGH and scallops are not.

I also think with the right micro nutrition dialed in , most AAS side effects you have will go away. your not going to 'spill over'

[charger69]

You may as well catch a few free months Charger. I think you’re the only one consistent enough to do this.

I have a different plan around my competitions.


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[charger69]

just to clarify things a bit

I know exactly what works. thats kinda my job and why I have had lots of paying clients over the years that got amazing results.. I'm sure clients of mine that are members here can speak to that fact.
I can't in good faith "experiment" on a paying client. I've gotta resort to the tried and true systems I already know and have learned over many years. if I coach you, my goal is to get you results. period. I can't take your $ and experiment on you with my own theories, I can only do what I know works.

SO .. this the only reason I'm making this suggestion and offer and coaching someone for free for 12 weeks. I have a theory mainly on micro nutrition and how that relates to the efficiency of AAS use and training. but I've never tested it out and I'm not in a position to test it out myself ( I simply can't afford it right now and I have digestion problems I'm trying to fix)

I know for fact 1500mg of test per week and 100mg of Anadrol per day, with 40iu of insulin and eating pop tarts pre and post workout is going to blow you up..
but so what. thats not the point here


I want to see if the co factors of micro nutrients from an extremely well balanced diet make less drugs work better. I want to factor in way more then carbs, protein and fats. I'm factoring in the amount of b vitamins, iron, choline, selenium, magnesium etc.. because these are the 'co factors' that actually stimulate anabolic processes in the body.

yes I know 100mg of anadrol per day with 40iu of slin and 4 pop tarts will "blow you up" .. but I want to see if low doses, well planned and executed, with all the micro nutrition dialed in, and using mild side effect free compounds like Primo will blow you up.
also want to see that combined with an extremely well planned training system that has a recovery based focus


so this is essentially the idea..
chicken and rice with pop tarts post workout and being a bro and doing bro splits and taking bro doses of gear and bro stuff.. does that work.
or does eating everything perfectly with just the right amount of micro nutrition dialed in perfectly and nutrient timing dialed in perfectly to help your training and drugs work way more optimal


I personally think that right amount of micro nutrition, with the proper drugs and training and optimizing recovery is going to work far better for long term quality gains. but thats not going to be cheap.. fucking insulin, Anadrol, and pop tarts are cheap. Primo HGH and scallops are not.

I also think with the right micro nutrition dialed in , most AAS side effects you have will go away. your not going to 'spill over'

I never had pop tarts as part of my diet!! I’ve been ripped off!! LOL


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[GearHeaded]

I have a different plan around my competitions.

Charger is a beast . he is one of the most discipline and consistent clients I've ever had. but he also has a consistent and set goal of competing and winning bodybuilding shows. thats it.. I can never fuk with that. I can't experiment with that. I can only help based on whats "tried and true" and what I know works.
aint no way I can "experiment" on someone like charger. he never hired me to experiment on him. he hired me for results, period

[Charlie67]

just to clarify things a bit

I know exactly what works. thats kinda my job and why I have had lots of paying clients over the years that got amazing results.. I'm sure clients of mine that are members here can speak to that fact.
I can't in good faith "experiment" on a paying client. I've gotta resort to the tried and true systems I already know and have learned over many years. if I coach you, my goal is to get you results. period. I can't take your $ and experiment on you with my own theories, I can only do what I know works.

SO .. this the only reason I'm making this suggestion and offer and coaching someone for free for 12 weeks. I have a theory mainly on micro nutrition and how that relates to the efficiency of AAS use and training. but I've never tested it out and I'm not in a position to test it out myself ( I simply can't afford it right now and I have digestion problems I'm trying to fix)

I know for fact 1500mg of test per week and 100mg of Anadrol per day, with 40iu of insulin and eating pop tarts pre and post workout is going to blow you up..
but so what. thats not the point here


I want to see if the co factors of micro nutrients from an extremely well balanced diet make less drugs work better. I want to factor in way more then carbs, protein and fats. I'm factoring in the amount of b vitamins, iron, choline, selenium, magnesium etc.. because these are the 'co factors' that actually stimulate anabolic processes in the body.

yes I know 100mg of anadrol per day with 40iu of slin and 4 pop tarts will "blow you up" .. but I want to see if low doses, well planned and executed, with all the micro nutrition dialed in, and using mild side effect free compounds like Primo will blow you up.
also want to see that combined with an extremely well planned training system that has a recovery based focus


so this is essentially the idea..
chicken and rice with pop tarts post workout and being a bro and doing bro splits and taking bro doses of gear and bro stuff.. does that work.
or does eating everything perfectly with just the right amount of micro nutrition dialed in perfectly and nutrient timing dialed in perfectly to help your training and drugs work way more optimal


I personally think that right amount of micro nutrition, with the proper drugs and training and optimizing recovery is going to work far better for long term quality gains. but thats not going to be cheap.. fucking insulin, Anadrol, and pop tarts are cheap. Primo HGH and scallops are not.

I also think with the right micro nutrition dialed in , most AAS side effects you have will go away. your not going to 'spill over'

I sent you a PM. I totally understand if you want somebody with a different profile, no worries. The advantages of me however, are that I'm old and a bit slow, so blindly obedient to the plan.... And I already use less drug than most, and I like scallops

But again, totally understand if you're looking for somebody different.

Best,
C-

[GearHeaded]

well folks, Charlie is the man !

[Charlie67]

well folks, Charlie is the man !

Well, maybe not THE man... but I'm a willing lab rat. Once we get things worked out, we'll log everything. Looking forward to the ride!

[Fiskevatten]

PLEASE make a page for the entire journey in detail!

[JaneDoe]

Good luck Charlie!

[GearHeaded]

PLEASE make a page for the entire journey in detail!

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yes a log will be started to track this.. it will be epic

Charlie may also want to log his bank account as the funds start to detoirite on all the nutrition he is needing to purchase (joking)

[JaneDoe]

When does this project start between ?

[GearHeaded]

wil take a week or so to get all the details and me to build the programming. then some time to obtain the compounds. but I'm thinking Jan 1 , not a bad date to start.

I can't tell the details yet cause I don't have all the details I need to build the programming . but what I will say is

- nutrition is going to be 100% the driving factor here.. its not just going to be macros, protein, fat and carbs . the amount of Selenum, magnesium, Iron, B-vitamins, etc.. in individual meals is going to be factored into the equation.
these micro nutrients are "co factors" that are going to make the drugs work better.. only using 400mg of Primo is going to provide amazing results because the micro nutrition is so optimized. compared to thinking you need to use 1200mg of Primo
- drugs will be rotated based on needs and progressions of the physique.. no you don't need to run 1-2 different drugs for 12 weeks straight. we use what we need to at the times we need to
- Training is going to be recovery focused but highly structured.. we pick and choose our battles. only select sets on select exercises go to failure.. multiple aspects of hypertrophy are going to be covered

[balance]

Congratulations Charlie67!

I will be following the log for sure. I’m extremely interested to see this play out. I got to work with GH last year around this time and it was an excellent learning experience for me on all three facets (nutrition, compounds, and training).

What I find very interesting about this specifically is the lower dosages and the nutrition aspects. Being older myself I often feel like the dosages required for new growth (beyond any level previously attained) is substantially higher than what I see guys in their 20-30s run.




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[GearHeaded]

Congratulations Charlie67!

I will be following the log for sure. I’m extremely interested to see this play out. I got to work with GH last year around this time and it was an excellent learning experience for me on all three facets (nutrition, compounds, and training).

What I find very interesting about this specifically is the lower dosages and the nutrition aspects. Being older myself I often feel like the dosages required for new growth (beyond any level previously attained) is substantially higher than what I see guys in their 20-30s run.

YES !! excellent observation !

this is spot on and one of the main reasons for this whole thing.. the micro nutrient deficiencies and the way our bodies use them as we age declines and the drugs effectiveness is not fully utilized . getting nutrition aspects 100% optimized is going to make things work way better. the way your body uses protein declines as you age. you can't just up your protein . its the co factors and micro nutrient deffecicineis that cause this. its the sodium and magnesium that help things absorb, its the potassium that allows insulin to store muscle glycogen .. etc.. its all these little co factors that make everything work.

Charlie is mid/late 40s . perfect candidate.. no gains are going to be newbie fluke gains or young guy 'gear response' gains.. they are going to be valid and legit and nutrition based

[Charlie67]

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Charlie may also want to log his bank account as the funds start to detoirite on all the nutrition he is needing to purchase (joking)

I'm not entirely sure he's kidding....

wil take a week or so to get all the details and me to build the programming. then some time to obtain the compounds. but I'm thinking Jan 1 , not a bad date to start.

It sounds so cliche to start January 1st, but given the holidays and whatnot.... We'll be sure to let everyone know definitively soon.

Congratulations Charlie67!
What I find very interesting about this specifically is the lower dosages and the nutrition aspects. Being older myself I often feel like the dosages required for new growth (beyond any level previously attained) is substantially higher than what I see guys in their 20-30s run.

Thanks! I'm looking forward to it.

And right, while I generally don't want to acknowledge any aspect of getting older... There are some concessions you need to make. If I have to tighten up my diet to ridiculous levels to run "normal" amounts of gear, I'm willing to try. I have no intentions of wondering away quietly into the night like so many other people as they age. I'm going to go kicking and screaming.

This'll be fun!

[SampsonandDelilah]

This all resonates with me, I’m 45 and it gets tougher every year but I don’t admit to shit (outside of this trust tree). Be fun to see how you respond! I’m with you Charlie, kicking and screaming to my grave!

Excited to see how this goes

[The Deadlifting Dog]

good luck!!!!
train smart...

I find avoiding injuries is the most important part of training....

the rest is fun

[JaneDoe]

Reviving this post

[Charlie67]

We're still on it, just working out some diet details and waiting on the last of the supplies to come in. I'll be logging everything so y'all can make fun of all my mistakes.

Best,
C

[JaneDoe]

We're still on it, just working out some diet details and waiting on the last of the supplies to come in. I'll be logging everything so y'all can make fun of all my mistakes.

Best,
C

We look forward to the start of your project.

[JaneDoe]

Already preparing the bank account? Lol