bulking cycle and strange effects

[TestoSuper]

hello guys, I
I'm in my 3rd week of bulking cycle, and i'm having some weird effects that I haven't had in the past (or maybe lower):

- very little appetite, basmati rice after few tablespoons makes me vomit, I have to eat bread and pasta instead

- physical fatigue and sense of general exhaustion (anyway strength is good during workout, but I feel tired all day)

- strange taste in the mouth, it seems that saliva is more acrid than usual

- excessive back and armpits sweating during the day there are still 23/24 °C in my Country and for me it is torture, I change 2/3 shirts a day

what is your opinion? are these symptoms normal?

I confess that unfortunately for personal problems I started this cycle while I was a little depressed ,
and the first few days were not easy

My actualli cycle is:

1 gr Sust / week
60 mg D-bol /day
400 Mast E/ week

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I am in the minority in some of my opinions but I will say them anyway.

Orals cause loss of appetite for many people. 60mg of dbol may be too much for you.

Physical fatigue can easily be caused by a hefty cycle. I personally believe 1.8 grams a week is far more than you need at your level of development.
I personally have never run over a gram.
Most cycles are 750mgs or less for me.
Physical fatigue can also be caused by orals.

The strange taste in your mouth may be caused by your upset stomach. (You vomit by eating a few tablespoons of rice so obviously your stomach is fucked.)

Excessive sweating is perfectly normal on cycle and you happen to be on a large cycle.

[TestoSuper]

I am in the minority in some of my opinions but I will say them anyway.

Orals cause loss of appetite for many people. 60mg of dbol may be too much for you.

Physical fatigue can easily be caused by a hefty cycle. I personally believe 1.8 grams a week is far more than you need at your level of development.
I personally have never run over a gram.
Most cycles are 750mgs or less for me.
Physical fatigue can also be caused by orals.

The strange taste in your mouth may be caused by your upset stomach. (You vomit by eating a few tablespoons of rice so obviously your stomach is fucked.)

Excessive sweating is perfectly normal on cycle and you happen to be on a large cycle.

Ok all clear,
but the stomach doesn't hurt me, I gave an example of basmati rice because I probably ate too much in past and now I have a rejection ... but I have no effetctive problems or pain in my stomach.. only a strange taste in mouth..

[Windex]

Agree with Deadlifting Dog.

Not being able to eat basmati rice should be the least of your concerns

[jstone]

I think a lot of people get shit dbol which is odd because it's cheap, but 20-30mg is sufficient unless your 200+ pounds. Even at over 200 pounds quality dbol doesnt require large doses. With a gram of test and that much dbol your estro could be causing the issues. I would at least cut the dbol dose in half, and lower the test as well. You could add in something to make up for the test. You probably should start eating some fermented vegetables kimchee, pickles, and add in some prebiotics along with probiotics. This should help get you gut right. Total gut health from onnit is a great product.

[TestoSuper]

I think a lot of people get shit dbol which is odd because it's cheap, but 20-30mg is sufficient unless your 200+ pounds. Even at over 200 pounds quality dbol doesnt require large doses. With a gram of test and that much dbol your estro could be causing the issues. I would at least cut the dbol dose in half, and lower the test as well. You could add in something to make up for the test. You probably should start eating some fermented vegetables kimchee, pickles, and add in some prebiotics along with probiotics. This should help get you gut right. Total gut health from onnit is a great product.

Thanks for advices.
I think that my Dbol is very good (pink square pills from Thailand) and it has always given me excellent gains... anyway I will lower the dosage for the next few weeks.
I will consider to introduce Probiotics as supplement and I will do research on Total gut health from onnit.

[Chrisp83TRT]

Dbol has a habit of fucking with appetite .



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[HoldMyBeer]

Dbol has a habit of fucking with appetite .



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Yeah, dbol anadrol etc. I wonder if it's just orals in general

[Couchlockd]

First and last time I ate 20mg dbol it put me in bed for 3 days straight with bad stomach.

I can eat 100 mg of anavar a day for 6 weeks, terrible heartburn the whole 9 yards and 15 tums a day and I'm fine.

That dbol brought me to my knees though

Try injectable dbol it should help.

[Couchlockd]

Yes that is lots of dbol

I'd restructure that cycle as follows.
Test 750 a week (1g is diminished return area IMHO)
Mast at 600 per week
Dbol at 40mg a day or less (15mg am and on would work)

At a certain point test seems to bring on more sides than needed at that high a dose.

[sixfootseven]

I won’t claim to be an expert but ive had good results in appetite increase with ghrp-6.

[SampsonandDelilah]

I won’t claim to be an expert but ive had good results in appetite increase with ghrp-6.

Definitely known to increase hunger. Did for me as well, problem was the carb cravings at night. Agreed it’s a great option for a bulk

[< <Samson> >]

I dunno if that mast e is enough to counteract the estro coming from that much test & dBol


But, I never really got those as sides - I can eat like a horse on a shit ton of dBol

[Couchlockd]

I dunno if that mast e is enough to counteract the estro coming from that much test & dBol


But, I never really got those as sides - I can eat like a horse on a shit ton of dBol

Mast isn't going to to much for any dbol conversion

[i_SLAM_cougars]

hello guys, I
I'm in my 3rd week of bulking cycle, and i'm having some weird effects that I haven't had in the past (or maybe lower):

- very little appetite, basmati rice after few tablespoons makes me vomit, I have to eat bread and pasta instead

- physical fatigue and sense of general exhaustion (anyway strength is good during workout, but I feel tired all day)

- strange taste in the mouth, it seems that saliva is more acrid than usual

- excessive back and armpits sweating during the day there are still 23/24 °C in my Country and for me it is torture, I change 2/3 shirts a day

what is your opinion? are these symptoms normal?

I confess that unfortunately for personal problems I started this cycle while I was a little depressed ,
and the first few days were not easy

My actualli cycle is:

1 gr Sust / week
60 mg D-bol /day
400 Mast E/ week

What’s your injection protocol look like? I’m currently doing the exact same thing, except I’m taking deca instead of Masteron. I’m just wondering if you’re injecting the sust too far apart and you’re getting a bunch of hormonal fluctuations from the short esthers?

The lathargy and and appetite stuff could be dbol. It does that to some people.