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    4th cycle need some critique

    So I would like to plan out my 4th cycle planning on doing a lean bulk. Plan on doing a twelve week cycle. I never don’t like doing longer cycles just a personal preference I know some people are going to say what’s the point but I’ve always had a good result from shorter cycles plus I’ve never had any serious problems with sides so I’m gunna stick to it.
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    Test prop 125/eod 1-12
    Eq 400/ew 1-12
    Dbol 50/Ed 1-4
    Tren ace 75/eod 6-12

    I’ll be using Arimidex .5/eod
    Need help with the dosing and timing of prami and hcg being as I’ve never used them before in a cycle

    Any advice and critique is appreciated thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler151s View Post
    So I would like to plan out my 4th cycle planning on doing a lean bulk. Plan on doing a twelve week cycle. I never don’t like doing longer cycles just a personal preference I know some people are going to say what’s the point but I’ve always had a good result from shorter cycles plus I’ve never had any serious problems with sides so I’m gunna stick to it.
    Cycle
    Test prop 125/eod 1-12
    Eq 400/ew 1-12
    Dbol 50/Ed 1-4
    Tren ace 75/eod 6-12

    I’ll be using Arimidex .5/eod
    Need help with the dosing and timing of prami and hcg being as I’ve never used them before in a cycle

    Any advice and critique is appreciated thanks
    Throw the AI out the window. You aren't going to bulk up when your estrogen is in the toilet. Secondly you don't need Prami with your Tren Dose. Prami wouldn't even be what I would have on hand for prolactin. 9/10 people who touch Prami feel like death regardless.

    Either inject Test and Tren every day or switch to longer esters to match the EQ.

    Lean bulk is a bit of an oxymoron philosophy in my opinion, perpetuated by broscience.

    Drugs are all fine and dandy but the nutrition is what is going to drive growth.
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    Sounds good I’ll change things around a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Throw the AI out the window. You aren't going to bulk up when your estrogen is in the toilet. Secondly you don't need Prami with your Tren Dose. Prami wouldn't even be what I would have on hand for prolactin. 9/10 people who touch Prami feel like death regardless.

    Either inject Test and Tren every day or switch to longer esters to match the EQ.

    Lean bulk is a bit of an oxymoron philosophy in my opinion, perpetuated by broscience.

    Drugs are all fine and dandy but the nutrition is what is going to drive growth.
    Literally all of this.

    Especially fuck the prami. I wouldn’t put that shit in myself if you paid me. Caber’s a much better option, but that shit’s entirely too expensive. I’d drop my dose of Tren to deal with sides before I’d pay for that overpriced ancil.

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    So you guys suggest I go with the longer Esther of these and maybe do a 16 week cycle

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    If you know how you respond to Tren , sure. If you’ve never used it before, Ace is a better idea, since it will allow you to make adjustments faster, if nothing else.

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    Ya I’ve used tren at the same dose and never had any problems

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    Use masteron at a dose of 300-400 mg per week to block prolactin.


    Swap your anastrozole for nolvadex by taking 10-20 mg every day.Anastrozole will inhibit estrogen in your body hampering your gains.


    Nolvadex will only block the estrogen receptor without harming your gains.

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    Desista do Pramipexole e inclua o masteron no seu ciclo. O Masteron será muito melhor porque, além de bloquear a prolactina, ele aumenta os ganhos anabólicos, pois ainda é um esteróide.
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    O HCG é tomado na dose de 250 ui - 2 x at semana durante o ciclo.

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    yeah forget Prami or Caber . your Tren dose is pretty low your likely not going to have prolactin issues. and if you thought you might then simply run Masteron in place of your EQ.

    and as mentioned.. ditch the AI. not going to help you 'lean bulk' in any way shape or form. if your at all estrogen sensitive just run a low dose of Nolva.
    if you do keep the Eq in there, it does have anti estrogenic properties
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    Appreciate all the advice so far thanks gunna revamp the cycle up a bit

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