When To Run My Dbol?

[Dutchh]

30 yrs old
10 years training experience


Currently running test E cycle. Just pinned 1st dose of week 3 today.

Was going to run my dbol as a kickstarter, but for the sake of (hopefully) greater strength gains, I decided to run it after the test E had begun to work its magic.

Now i’m wondering if its better to run it starting around week 4, or more like week 8. Anyone have an idea about whether one or the other would lead to better retention of gains post cycle?

Thank in advance.

[GearHeaded]

I would start the Dbol now and run it for the majority of your test e cycle .. just taper down the dosage later on.
so for the next 4 weeks or so run 40mg a day.. then down to 30mg for the weeks following that.. then down to 20mg per day going towards the end of your cycle.

the taper method over a longer duration is much better for acclimating to the gains that come from Dbol

[Dutchh]

Thanks for the info, GH. I will start tomorrow.

Im also considering switching to prop week 10 so I can start my pct right after week 12. This would be about 8 weeks of dbol , with a week off then pct.

[JaneDoe]

I used dianabol in the first six weeks of my cycle at a dose of 50 mg per day.

[JaneDoe]

GearHeaded Gostaria de iniciar o Dbol agora e executá-lo durante a maior parte do seu ciclo de teste. Apenas reduza a dose mais tarde.
durante as próximas 4 semanas, aproximadamente 40mg por dia. Depois, reduza para 30mg nas semanas seguintes e reduza para 20mg por dia até o final do seu ciclo.

o método do atarraxamento por uma duração mais longa é muito melhor para se adaptar aos ganhos provenientes do Dbol

Let me reason, you are telling him to use dianabol for 8 weeks in larger doses. And in the last 4 weeks for him to decrease the dosages?

[GearHeaded]

Let me reason, you are telling him to use dianabol for 8 weeks in larger doses. And in the last 4 weeks for him to decrease the dosages?

I'm saying that running Dbol for longer durations is much better then short duration.. guys that only run Dbol as a kickstart for like 4 weeks is all will generally make some gains then literally 'piss' them all away the minute they come off the Dbol (ie, they lose the water retention they accomplished) .. with Dbol you need to get the water retention that comes from it, and then keep that on for a long duration so you can acclimate to it and grow . it takes much longer then 4 weeks to grow.

so if you were going to run a 12 week Test e cycle , and you wanted to add Dbol to it , I'd run the Dbol nearly all 12 weeks as well , just taper the dosage down over time
example of taper method for Dbol
Week 1-4
50mg
Week 5-7
30mg
Week 8-12
20mg

[Gallowmere]

I'm saying that running Dbol for longer durations is much better then short duration.. guys that only run Dbol as a kickstart for like 4 weeks is all will generally make some gains then literally 'piss' them all away the minute they come off the Dbol (ie, they lose the water retention they accomplished) .. with Dbol you need to get the water retention that comes from it, and then keep that on for a long duration so you can acclimate to it and grow . it takes much longer then 4 weeks to grow.

so if you were going to run a 12 week Test e cycle , and you wanted to add Dbol to it , I'd run the Dbol nearly all 12 weeks as well , just taper the dosage down over time
example of taper method for Dbol
Week 1-4
50mg
Week 5-7
30mg
Week 8-12
20mg

I like the way you think. I may need to redo my math and see how I could make this work with my upcoming test/deca /dbol cycle.

[JaneDoe]

gearheaded estou dizendo que executar o dbol por durações mais longas é muito melhor do que uma curta duração .. Caras que só executam o dbol como um kickstart por 4 semanas são geralmente geralmente obtêm alguns ganhos e depois os 'irritam' literalmente durante todo o minuto em que eles saem do dbol (isto é, eles perdem a retenção de água que realizaram). Com o dbol, você precisa obter a retenção de água que vem dele e mantê-la por um longo período para que você possa se acostumar com a retenção de água. E cresça. Leva muito mais tempo do que 4 semanas para crescer.

Portanto, se você executasse um ciclo de teste e de 12 semanas e desejasse adicionar dbol a ele, eu executaria o dbol quase todas as 12 semanas também, apenas diminuindo a dose ao longo do tempo,
exemplo do método de redução para a
semana de dbol 1-4
50mg
semana 5-7
30mg
semana 8-12
20mg

fantastic

[Dutchh]

I'm saying that running Dbol for longer durations is much better then short duration.. guys that only run Dbol as a kickstart for like 4 weeks is all will generally make some gains then literally 'piss' them all away the minute they come off the Dbol (ie, they lose the water retention they accomplished) .. with Dbol you need to get the water retention that comes from it, and then keep that on for a long duration so you can acclimate to it and grow . it takes much longer then 4 weeks to grow.

so if you were going to run a 12 week Test e cycle , and you wanted to add Dbol to it , I'd run the Dbol nearly all 12 weeks as well , just taper the dosage down over time
example of taper method for Dbol
Week 1-4
50mg
Week 5-7
30mg
Week 8-12
20mg

Thanks again. I think I’ll stick with the test e and run the dbol for 10 weeks out to week 14 before hitting my pct.

[Thors_Hammer]

I'm saying that running Dbol for longer durations is much better then short duration.. guys that only run Dbol as a kickstart for like 4 weeks is all will generally make some gains then literally 'piss' them all away the minute they come off the Dbol (ie, they lose the water retention they accomplished) .. with Dbol you need to get the water retention that comes from it, and then keep that on for a long duration so you can acclimate to it and grow . it takes much longer then 4 weeks to grow.

so if you were going to run a 12 week Test e cycle , and you wanted to add Dbol to it , I'd run the Dbol nearly all 12 weeks as well , just taper the dosage down over time
example of taper method for Dbol
Week 1-4
50mg
Week 5-7
30mg
Week 8-12
20mg

Not to highjack the thread but along this note,

If someone was using that taper method along with test and wanted to throw in Mast as well would Mast's anti e properties negate benefit of the taper?

[GearHeaded]

Not to highjack the thread but along this note,

If someone was using that taper method along with test and wanted to throw in Mast as well would Mast's anti e properties negate benefit of the taper?

no. the water retention and volumizing that come from Dbol is mainly inter cellular, and not simply because of excess estrogen. so the Dbol will still fill you out even if estrogen was limited (of course more estrogen is going to = more overall growth). also Mast anti e effects are largely based on its blunting of progestin receptors, and not the limiting of any aromatization itself (also its androgenic effects help counter balance estrogenic effects as well)

Mast is a compound that goes well with nearly any cycle. it can also be used as an ancillary. most AAS protocols I give have masteron listed as 'having on hand' at all times if its not already part of the actual cycle

[Gallowmere]

no. the water retention and volumizing that come from Dbol is mainly inter cellular, and not simply because of excess estrogen. so the Dbol will still fill you out even if estrogen was limited (of course more estrogen is going to = more overall growth). also Mast anti e effects are largely based on its blunting of progestin receptors, and not the limiting of any aromatization itself (also its androgenic effects help counter balance estrogenic effects as well)

Mast is a compound that goes well with nearly any cycle. it can also be used as an ancillary. most AAS protocols I give have masteron listed as 'having on hand' at all times if its not already part of the actual cycle

It’s definitely going to be one of the only injectables, other than test and deca , that I keep a stock of going forward.

[Thors_Hammer]

no. the water retention and volumizing that come from Dbol is mainly inter cellular, and not simply because of excess estrogen. so the Dbol will still fill you out even if estrogen was limited (of course more estrogen is going to = more overall growth). also Mast anti e effects are largely based on its blunting of progestin receptors, and not the limiting of any aromatization itself (also its androgenic effects help counter balance estrogenic effects as well)

Mast is a compound that goes well with nearly any cycle. it can also be used as an ancillary. most AAS protocols I give have masteron listed as 'having on hand' at all times if its not already part of the actual cycle

Thanks for clarifying!