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11-26-2019, 01:37 PM #1Junior Member
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Stacking & rotating orals for females
Hello good folks,
Have some questions for wife's upcoming next cycle...
Wife has run cycles of Anavar (12.5/day) and PrimoA (37.5/day). The var caused some aggression, pimples and clit growth (reduced after end of cycle). The primo caused some nervousness and then voice started cracking after 5-6 weeks (and she stopped the cycle and voice became totally fine after a month or two).
Question - does it make any sense to stack tbol (test derivative) with var and primo (dht based) at a bit less than the normal dose each?
e.g.
weeks 1-5: tbol 5mg, PrimoA 19 mg (3/4 tablet)
weeks 6-10: tbol 5mg, anavar 7.5 mg (3/4 tablet)
For guys stacks, it's recommended to add from the 3 bases (test, 19-nor, dht).
1. Does it make sense to mix test & dht bases for women?
2. Are the drugs still effective when used at below normal dose, or is there a minimum amount to get a meaningful effect?
3. Will the side effects be reduced compared to running a relatively higher dose of a single drug?
4. Or is it just simpler to run a basic rotation e.g. 4 weeks PrimoA only (25mg), 4 weeks anavar (10 mg) only, 4 weeks tbol only (7.5 mg)?
Thanks!
(Please do not derail into whether women should do steroids and whether the gear is fake or not)
@GearHeaded would really appreciate your thoughts on this buddy
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11-26-2019, 02:34 PM #2BANNED
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stacking and rotating compounds for women works just as well as it does for men and has the same benefits.. with stacking your able to get multiple avenues of muscle growth via separate DNA coding being transcribed to cells.
so for example - yes both Winny and Var are anabolics and both will bind to androgen receptors and upregulate protein synthesis. but each drug also has its own unique genetic coding on how it does this and each drug has its own unique secondary characteristics. Like Var has a strong ability to up regulate Creatine Phosphate (which gives your more energy and ATP output in the gym) while Winny has the ability to blunt Cortisol production and thus limit muscle protein breakdown and fat gain.
so , getting multiple 'genetic messages' being transcribed to cells and getting multiple secondary muscle building characteristics is much better then only getting a single message.
just like adding Dbol or Deca (or both) to a Test cycle makes that cycle much more productive because of the multiple growth pathways and messages being transcribed.
so yes its beneficial to stack for women. one more thing to consider for women is that they can generally run much longer oral only cycles because their dosage requirements are so low there is little if any liver toxicity.
some of the best drugs that work well for women to stack or rotate
Var, Winny, Tbol, Primo, NPP/Deca, SARMs , low dose Dbol
now when stacking you do have to pay attention to total weekly dosage. so you may need to run lower then normal dosages when stacking as opposed to running a single compound.
eg. lots of women do well with 20mg of Var per day as a stand alone compound . with stacking though you may want to do 10mg of Var with 10mg of Winny. and then slowly add to the dosage over time if all is going well.
some combos I like
Var and Winny
Npp and Tbol
LGD40 and Winny/Var
Winny and low dose Dbol (5mg max)
add Primo to pretty much any combo for more anabolic load
you could stack a test derivative a dht and a nandrolone
Winny, Tbol (or low dose Dbol), and NPP
often times running multiple compounds at lower dosages will equate to less side effects then running a higher dose of a single compound..
THEN when you add in non androgenic compounds to the mix you can get even less side effects and more bang for your buck. so adding in things like Clen , HGH, T4 (all 3 of which can be used as an anabolic and not just fat burning)..
and lastly , yes women can run insulin . I prefer just 5iu post workout to aide in recovery.
^ there are no androgenic side effects that come from these things yet they together are very powerful muscle builders .
and as mentioned, SARMs work very well for women too. my go to is LGD40 at 10mg per day. if you can get injectible thats even better
each women is different and your going to have to play around with dosages and combos. just always start with a lower dose then you think is effective and slowly ramp the dosage up .. like I said you have plenty of time cause women can be on oral cycles for a fairly long duration .. don't feel you have to go right to a high dosage cause you only got 6 weeks time, you can experiment for months to get things dialed in
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11-28-2019, 08:05 AM #3Junior Member
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@GearHeaded Many thanks for comprehensive response. Come new year, we'll try to put together a longer cycle stacking and rotating compounds, trying to keep the side effects at bay by limiting total weekly steroid dose. Cheers.
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