Rotator cuff injury on cycle

Did your shoulder joint pain ever go away? I’ve had one for about 6 months to a year. It got progressively worse but one day I made it worse when I was throwing up a dumbbell from my knee for a shoulder press. I think the weight was around 115 lbs. That movement, before getting the weight up felt like something happened, along with pain. I still did my sets and my shoulder routine for that day.

Now it mainly bothers me when sleeping or working out, holding items a certain way. Motions where I bring my arm out in front of me hurt. Pushups hurt a lot at first. Dumbbell bench hurts a little less than pushups. I can still do shrugs and side laterals without pain. As I’m working out, the pain subsides to about 20%.


Obviously this type of injury affects all kinds of motions and exercises. Can’t really go crazy on any type of pressing exercises. I wonder if I should let the shoulder heal completely and just limit myself to other exercises for the time being? I’m not sure that the shoulder will even heal.
Another question is, is it even worth being on a cycle with this type of injury? Can gains be made with more moderate weight?

Look into BPC-157 and TB-500. They can help you heal. Give it some rest, avoid any movement that hurts it. In most cases there's always a work around! I stopped hoisting up heavy dumbells for pressing recently due to an infraspinatus tendon tear I'm healing up from. Regular smith or bb presses don't bother me.

I recently started adding in one arm smith presses in lieu of dumbell presses. It's odd but you sit side-saddle on the bench and with your elbow slightly forward you hold the bar like a spear or javelin, if you can picture it. Really a great movement and hits my side delts hard, which is a plus since I can't do lateral work due to my tear.

Try them.

Go to a orthopedist.

Without treatment, rotator cuff injury can lead to permanent stiffness or weakness and may result in progressive degeneration of the shoulder joint.


Although resting your shoulder is necessary for your recovery, keeping your shoulder still for a prolonged period of time can cause the connective tissue of the joint to thicken. This makes it thick and rigid, ultimately limiting shoulder movement (frozen shoulder). Therefore, consulting a shoulder and elbow orthopedist is recommended if the pain does not subside within a few days and the shoulder strength does not reestablish.


Diagnosis
During the physical examination the doctor will press different parts of the shoulder and move the arm in different positions. Your specialist shoulder and elbow orthopedist will also test the strength of the muscles around your shoulder and your arms.


In some cases, it may recommend imaging tests, such as:


X-ray: Although a rotator cuff tear does not appear on an X-ray, this test can visualize bone changes or other potential causes for your pain - such as arthritis.


Ultrasound: This type of test uses sound waves to produce images of structures within your body, particularly soft tissues such as muscles and tendons. Allows dynamic testing by assessing the structures of your shoulder as they move. It also allows a quick comparison between the affected shoulder and the healthy shoulder.


Magnetic Resonance: This technology uses radio waves and a strong magnet to generate images that show all shoulder structures in great detail. The quality of the images depends greatly on the quality of the equipment used. Magnetic resonance imaging may reveal the existence and severity of the rotator cuff injury.

I've been dealing with this issue for a long time myself. my left shoulder is jacked from breaking it in a motorcycle accident, my right shoulder is a rotator cuff issue from a gym injury. the gym injury happened out of the blue one day on smith machine decline bench press. I was loaded up on deca, tren and dbol and strong as fuck (for my size) at the time. I didn't warm up much (thinking its just a damn smith machine).. I loaded up 3.5 plates a side in a decline bench and when I hit rep 3 something tweaked. shooting pain deep in the shoulder.

trying to sleep at night and waking up in the morning is when it hurt the most. I also could not press at all for months. no bench press, machine press, over head press. but I could do side laterals and front raises no problem.
I ran HGH, BPC157, and TB500 .. months later I was able to start hammer machine pressing again. but that was a humiliating experience going from 5 plates per side down to just one and struggling to get through it.


this is what I learned and what I think helped the most -

movement and exercises that drive blood to the area but are somewhat pain free. doing different rotator cuff exercises on either the cable machine or with bands would accomplish this. but then avoid any 'sharp pain' movements . for me that was pressing exercises. the type of pain is different. there is a difference from bad pain and ok pain.
I also did different rotator cuff stretches and isometric holds (you can find example vids on you tube)

anyhow it got better. it took probably about 8 months or more. I got back to bench pressing ok and over head pressing 225.. but I always warm up with rotator cuff exercises before pressing. heck you may want to do it before every workout


the injury is still there though. if I sleep wrong with my arm in some odd position I wake up in pain and the shoulder will hurt for a few days.
one time I re injured in a fall. that lasted a month or two. so its always there in the background. you have to be mindful and diligent of these things. doing pain free movements and getting blood to the area is the most beneficial. also TIME. this shit takes time to heal up

Kelkel, I see what you mean with the smith bar; sit at a 90 degree angle to the bar and hold it like a spear. I’ll have to try that.

Davi, that’s some good info. I may need to visit a doctor if this doesn’t get any better.

Gear, yes, I agree with you on the stretching - in fact I have only started stretching as part of my routine before I lift because of this injury. I use the green (easy) bands and do all kinds of shoulder motions, sides, fronts, some biceps, even triceps. Just to get the joint warmed up. After all, pretty much any exercise in the upper body puts some strain on the shoulder joint.

I know what you mean about injuries that go away, but never really go away. I have a bad toe from kicking something when I was 19 and I still get days where it’ll hurt to bend, walking and such. Then I have a bad knee with a torn meniscus which bothers me randomly, as well as left elbow pain that used to be as bad as the shoulder, but got better over time (with no real reason, other than time). For all of these injuries, I still feel them and they still give me a little apprehension when lifting. I didn’t think twice about picking up and curling some 65’s back in the day, but now I just know my left elbow pain is going to make me lose all focus of the mind-muscle connection. You can’t help it when it’s like that.

Here's a pretty good article about pain, injury and how to approach rehab, for me their perspective was quite eye opening. The whole site is great imo.

https://www.barbellmedicine.com/blog...ining-what-do/

Ortho & MRI to see what you are dealing with. Then plan a course of action.

For now if it hurts don’t do it. I’d say do not take anything that masks the pain like deca, you want to know what is bothering it and stay away.

The thing with a rotor cuff injury is they don't get much blood flow so they heal slow.And if you are smart and get the operation do wat the Doc says or you will have it done again.

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Originally Posted by songdog

The thing with a rotor cuff injury is they don't get much blood flow so they heal slow.And if you are smart and get the operation do wat the Doc says or you will have it done again.

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Lot of experience talking there OP^^^

Giving my two cents.. took me months to get back normal from that injury. Like 7ish..