Total cost of a Test E cycle?

[moetorious]

I like how this threat went from cost of doing a cycle to MEAT VS VEGAN....

OP TEST E cycle should cost you between 200 to 500 including everything and of course this all depends on how much dosage your running.

[Test Monsterone]

This is why legumes are not fed to animals... But they expect you to eat it.

I don’t think farmers know this much about nutrition lol. Plus they don’t feed their animals legumes because it is too expensive. My uncle has a small farm for his family and they feed their animals whatever they have, including potatoes, squash, old bread, leftovers, etc.

[Windex]

Potatoes aren't better than rice or lentils or beans. They're actually less dense in vitamins and minerals. Tons of protein in legumes.

This is incorrect. Legumes have the highest amount of lectin per serving and cause the most amount of digestive stress in humans, second only to dairy. The pectin based food also pulls in more water into the intestines during digestion causing bloating and distension.

Someone trying to bulk on 5k calories is going to blow out their GI tract trying to only eat beans, lentils, etc as carbs.

Food is going to cost way more than gear. Cost of test should be the least of concerns.

[Windex]

I know loads of super yolked people who eat no red meat. I don't know why you think it takes saturated fat to build muscle. Protein is the important component, and red meat is nowhere near the highest level of protein per lb. And iron can be had from many sources.

Potatoes? Seriously? 100g of baked potato has 93 calories and 2.5g of protein, 100g of brown rice has 111 calories. 100g of lentils has 116 calories, and 18g protein, 36% of daily iron. Sooo...

Then join the vegan bodybuilding forum. You are in the wrong place and are clueless.

[Gallowmere]

This is incorrect. Legumes have the highest amount of lectin per serving and cause the most amount of digestive stress in humans, second only to dairy. The pectin based food also pulls in more water into the intestines during digestion causing bloating and distension.

Someone trying to bulk on 5k calories is going to blow out their GI tract trying to only eat beans, lentils, etc as carbs.

Food is going to cost way more than gear. Cost of test should be the least of concerns.

My guts want to explode doing 4500 with chicken thighs, ground beef, rice and all variety of potatoes and sweet potatoes. Fuck doing it with beans and shit.

[IronLiver]

I don’t think farmers know this much about nutrition lol. Plus they don’t feed their animals legumes because it is too expensive. My uncle has a small farm for his family and they feed their animals whatever they have, including potatoes, squash, old bread, leftovers, etc.

I was more referring to the fact that uncooked lentils are put into pet foods, which is linked to heart disease.

Dog heart disease linked to grain-free food, FDA says

Yet they are saying it's perfectly healthy and safe for humans...

How are legumes too expensive? In many parts of the world, lentils are literally the cheapest food you can buy.

[Gallowmere]

I was more referring to the fact that uncooked lentils are put into pet foods, which is linked to heart disease.

Dog heart disease linked to grain-free food, FDA says

Yet they are saying it's perfectly healthy and safe for humans...

How are legumes too expensive? In many parts of the world, lentils are literally the cheapest food you can buy.

Depends on the country. In the US, corn subsidies have made it by far the cheapest things to use for farm feed. The farmers would easily go from black to red, just by switching primarily to lentils. Either that or beef would get even more stupid. Goddamned cows require a lot of calories, even with their tren . It’s why grass finished is so stupid expensive comparatively. Far less yield per animal.

[TheGypsyKing]

I like how this threat went from cost of doing a cycle to MEAT VS VEGAN....

OP TEST E cycle should cost you between 200 to 500 including everything and of course this all depends on how much dosage your running.

Thank you sir

[TheGypsyKing]

This is incorrect. Legumes have the highest amount of lectin per serving and cause the most amount of digestive stress in humans, second only to dairy. The pectin based food also pulls in more water into the intestines during digestion causing bloating and distension.

Someone trying to bulk on 5k calories is going to blow out their GI tract trying to only eat beans, lentils, etc as carbs.

Food is going to cost way more than gear. Cost of test should be the least of concerns.

Legumes are completely different after being soaked and cooked than raw.

[Gallowmere]

Legumes are completely different after being soaked and cooked than raw.

This is very true. Most of the concern over lectins came from showing that they didn’t fully denature at 158 Fahrenheit. Last I checked, most people cook theirs at a simmer which is notably higher, and does irreversibly degrade most lectins.

That said, there’s still some truth to the other side. Remember, on two extremes, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle. Animal products provide a shitload of zoo chemicals and cofactors not found in plants. The same can be said of phytonutrients in plants not being found in animals. Since we’re still trying like hell to reliably suss all of this out, and the centrist approach has repeatedly been shown to provide the best results, it’s probably the best bet for the time being.

That said, if it’s an ethical issue, more power to you, but the whole “plant based for ze gains” is nonsense, as is “plants will give you cancer of the AIDS and you need to be carnivore”. People really need to stop trying to needle in a haystack evidence for their preferences being “the one true way”.

[CALLMEOCT]

Just wanted to chime in this thread to point out that Gearheaded #1


total cost of a Test E Cycle in my country in U$S= 200ish

[Test Monsterone]

I was more referring to the fact that uncooked lentils are put into pet foods, which is linked to heart disease.

Dog heart disease linked to grain-free food, FDA says

Yet they are saying it's perfectly healthy and safe for humans...

How are legumes too expensive? In many parts of the world, lentils are literally the cheapest food you can buy.

I don’t know what you are referring to when you say “legumes.” I thought you were referring to vegetables... in many countries “legumes” are simply vegetables.

[Test Monsterone]

About the cost of any cycle... it depends how in depth you want to go with it. All it really takes is a bottle of test (as mentioned ~ $40), syringes and alcohol pads ($30), and food. You don’t really need an AI, unless YOU need an AI. I ran an AI on my first cycle and never ran it again. Didn’t make any difference in how I looked or felt. I may actually feel better not with an AI. I have ran over 1 gram with no AI so far and todo esta bien.

Do you want to keep your balls working for a faster recovery? Well then get HCG . It’s about $50. But wait, you need to get some bacteriostatic water and an empty vial to mix the solution, another $20. Nobody buys these things individually, you typically order a box of 100 syringes, 10 10 ml vials, 200 alcohol pads, etc... so the cost of accessories can easily go over $100.

Food is food... I never count food in my expenses. I never need to eat more... in fact I don’t even understand when people talk about force feeding themselves. I could eat all day. I have no problem eating. Ladies know what I’m talking about.

[IronLiver]

I don’t know what you are referring to when you say “legumes.” I thought you were referring to vegetables... in many countries “legumes” are simply vegetables.

Legumes are a member of the pea family, Fabaceae - Peanuts, Soybeans, Lentils, Beans, Peas. That consists of a pod and enclosed seeds. These pods are considered fruits, not vegetables because they are the seed-bearing organ grown from an ovary.

[Test Monsterone]

Legumes are a member of the pea family, Fabaceae - Peanuts, Soybeans, Lentils, Beans, Peas. That consists of a pod and enclosed seeds. These pods are considered fruits, not vegetables because they are the seed-bearing organ grown from an ovary.

Ahh ok, got you. I misunderstood. I know nothing about legumes then lol.

[Getsomehate]

Op it all depends on the doses you are going to inject .
In my country I spent around 200 euros for 2 vials of test and pct meds as well as NaC and some additional supps .
10ml vials 250mg/1ml (enanthate ) were around 35-40 euros each , adex was a bit expensive but I used it like 3-4 times in 2 cycles , nolva and clomid are super cheap , hcg is cheap unless you go for ovitrelle which expensive , proviron for mild anti e and better recover just before pct is super cheap as well.
Now if you wanna do bloodworks it’s gonna go up by a lot since hormonal test is quite expensive unless you have insurance .

Don’t think about the price twice , this shit it’s better be good cause you ll inject it in you .

[TheGypsyKing]

Op it all depends on the doses you are going to inject .
In my country I spent around 200 euros for 2 vials of test and pct meds as well as NaC and some additional supps .
10ml vials 250mg/1ml (enanthate ) were around 35-40 euros each , adex was a bit expensive but I used it like 3-4 times in 2 cycles , nolva and clomid are super cheap , hcg is cheap unless you go for ovitrelle which expensive , proviron for mild anti e and better recover just before pct is super cheap as well.
Now if you wanna do bloodworks it’s gonna go up by a lot since hormonal test is quite expensive unless you have insurance .

Don’t think about the price twice , this shit it’s better be good cause you ll inject it in you .

You don't do the bloodwork?

I'm def not planning to skimp on gear if I do go that route. I'll have to figure a good source, and decide who to listen to on how I should cycle, i.e. to use hcg or not, pct or not, etc.

[Getsomehate]

You don't do the bloodwork?

I'm def not planning to skimp on gear if I do go that route. I'll have to figure a good source, and decide who to listen to on how I should cycle, i.e. to use hcg or not, pct or not, etc.

You should always pct unless you wanna stay in gear forever. If you wanna do a small break after a cycle and start a new one , probably u could skip pct .
Use hcg if u are smart

[Cuz]

You should always pct unless you wanna stay in gear forever. If you wanna do a small break after a cycle and start a new one , probably u could skip pct .
Use hcg if u are smart

TRT is alot different than “staying on gear forever”

[GearHeaded]

You should always pct unless you wanna stay in gear forever. If you wanna do a small break after a cycle and start a new one , probably u could skip pct .
Use hcg if u are smart

plenty of guys over the last 50 years have ran gear with no pct and are fine. your natty HPTA recovers just fine on its own without PCT, it just takes longer. if your only doing 1-2 cycles per year , you can easily get by without doing a PCT at all.

the whole reason PCT became popular is so that guys could recover their HPTA as fast as possible so they could hurry up and get on their next cycle

[Gallowmere]

plenty of guys over the last 50 years have ran gear with no pct and are fine. your natty HPTA recovers just fine on its own without PCT, it just takes longer. if your only doing 1-2 cycles per year , you can easily get by without doing a PCT at all.

the whole reason PCT became popular is so that guys could recover their HPTA as fast as possible so they could hurry up and get on their next cycle

Well that and, theoretically the less time you spend in a hypogonadal state without exogenous hormones coming in, the less likely you are to lose everything you built over the previous few weeks. What many fail to understand though, is that PCT doesn’t work at all for some, and stops working altogether after a while for most.
Test is cheaper than all of those ancils anyway. TRT pins forever and whatnot. Easy for me to say though, as I needed it before I even considered a cycle.

[xxblazenlowxx]

What are the total costs of the:

Test E-
AI-
HCG -
PCT meds-
Needles/syringes-
Total=__

Wondering the total breakdown, thanks.

Will you be paying with cash or beans?

[Gallowmere]

Will you be paying with cash or beans?

The only beans we take as payment around these parts are coffee beans.