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    Getting to a 500 lb squat?

    I've been told I'll never get to a 500lb squat and It pissed me off do now it's my personal goal. Never really pushed myself too hard out of fear but fuck it I've got a point to prove. Currently can do 265x8 what do you guys think of getting to 500?

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    I think it’s pointless and moronic. I don’t talk to anyone at the gym, nobody is telling me “I don’t believe you can do this.” I look like I can squat 500 lbs, and that’s what counts. Nobody would deny that I can push some serious weight, and that’s how I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I think itís pointless and moronic. I donít talk to anyone at the gym, nobody is telling me ďI donít believe you can do this.Ē I look like I can squat 500 lbs, and thatís what counts. Nobody would deny that I can push some serious weight, and thatís how I like it.
    It's also good motivation. 2 years ago I had friend who could deadlift 405 (which seemed like a lot at the time) while I was around 235 I made it a point to get to 405, 2 months later that's where I was, and I had fun getting there.

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    It's just a number. Lots of IFBB pros don't squat or deadlift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    It's just a number. Lots of IFBB pros don't squat or deadlift.
    It is just a number but it really pisses me off when someone tell me ill never be as strong as they are, and a 500lb squat is "not going to happen" and their pretty dam small.

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    Itís not that hard. You just follow a decent lifting program with progressive overload built in, and barring any structural problems, youíll get there eventually.

    I started lifting with a 125 lbs. 1RM back squat. 3.5 years later, itís 465. You just keep hammering at it and slowly get better. The most important thing is not getting hurt. Thatís where the intelligent programming comes in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    It is just a number but it really pisses me off when someone tell me ill never be as strong as they are, and a 500lb squat is "not going to happen" and their pretty dam small.
    You will.
    People only say shit like that cor one reason. They are jealous and feel inadequate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    I've been told I'll never get to a 500lb squat and It pissed me off do now it's my personal goal. Never really pushed myself too hard out of fear but fuck it I've got a point to prove. Currently can do 265x8 what do you guys think of getting to 500?
    Just keep at it. When you squat 315, then 405 seems impossible but you eventually hit that and move the goal further ahead.

    If youíre 235 lbs then a 500 lb squat definitely isnít out of the question. Just need to keep making slow and steady progress is all.


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    I’ve done it. I could hit 405 for 15 but 500 nearly broke me in half. It’s like going from 315 to 405 on bench. Now I was only 225 and 5’7” so I’m small, might be why it felt like that, bigger the frame the more comfortable you could be. 405 was like 315 for me though, 500 was HEAVY.

    Get 3 spotters you trust and have them lift it with you. That’s a good way just to feel it and you can decide if you want to waste your time and taking the chance of injuring yourself. Kel told me he squatted 405 for 20, that became my goal. Much safer. Your pretty far away from 500.
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    Everything was impossible until somebody did it!

    I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!

    It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG View Post
    Iíve done it. I could hit 405 for 15 but 500 nearly broke me in half. Itís like going from 315 to 405 on bench. Now I was only 225 and 5í7Ē so Iím small, might be why it felt like that, bigger the frame the more comfortable you could be. 405 was like 315 for me though, 500 was HEAVY.

    Get 3 spotters you trust and have them lift it with you. Thatís a good way just to feel it and you can decide if you want to waste your time and taking the chance of injuring yourself. Kel told me he squatted 405 for 20, that became my goal. Much safer. Your pretty far away from 500.
    Damn man powerful stuff thanks for the motivation brother
    BTW 5í7 225 is fuckin jacked idk where ur gettin small
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    You will.
    People only say shit like that cor one reason. They are jealous and feel inadequate.
    I wasn't even being a dick about it until they said "not going to happen" just started that I'd love to be where their at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    I wasn't even being a dick about it until they said "not going to happen" just started that I'd love to be where their at.
    There are guys that bench more than me at 130 lbs.
    I dont have the balls to look at someone and say you cant lift that and never will be able to.

    They might do it right then.

    I actually posted a picture of myself upside down in a tree as an advertisement. Comments were absolutely retarded. People that know nothing about climbing were cutting me and my business down because they felt threatened I guess.

    So I explained the safety devices I was using and posted that rich piana video.

    Everyone shut the fuck up and I got record calls from them bumping my ad all day with their negativity.
    If nothing else, assholes like that are good motivators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    I wasn't even being a dick about it until they said "not going to happen" just started that I'd love to be where their at.
    I hear you, I was once told I was ripped but not big. I went on a 12 year tear lol 165lbs 10% to 225lbs single digit bf%.
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    Everything was impossible until somebody did it!

    I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!

    It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    If nothing else, assholes like that are good motivators.
    100% agreed. Most of my motivation came from them.
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    Everything was impossible until somebody did it!

    I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!

    It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.

    Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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    If your goal is a big squat, then maybe look into a power lifting program or some "powerbuilding" program like 531 (at least for a few months). Training specificity is real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    If your goal is a big squat, then maybe look into a power lifting program or some "powerbuilding" program like 531 (at least for a few months). Training specificity is real.
    very good idea, good spotters and proper rest, technique, find a good team of guys. I had a real good group growing up, even had a mono-lift.
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    Everything was impossible until somebody did it!

    I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!

    It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.

    Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

    Great place to start researching ! http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html


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    can you get there sure...
    will you get there.... not unless you learn how to train for strength and do it properly....
    getting strong isn't about lifting heavy singles... it is about performing fast quality reps at a decent speed... perfecting your technique...

    and most importantly.... not getting injured
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    can you get there sure...
    will you get there.... not unless you learn how to train for strength and do it properly....
    getting strong isn't about lifting heavy singles... it is about performing fast quality reps at a decent speed... perfecting your technique...

    and most importantly.... not getting injured
    Well said.

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    Everything was impossible until somebody did it!

    I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!

    It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.

    Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

    Great place to start researching ! http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    If nothing else, assholes like that are good motivators.
    100% agree. I told him he was a fucking dick for making a comment like that plus some other choice words and think I scared him a bit (was on tren at the time) and felt really bad for the past week that I actually treated someone like that then just stopped giving a fuck and used it as motivation.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    can you get there sure...
    will you get there.... not unless you learn how to train for strength and do it properly....
    getting strong isn't about lifting heavy singles... it is about performing fast quality reps at a decent speed... perfecting your technique...

    and most importantly.... not getting injured
    Any tips? My biggest fear is injury which had held me back in the past.
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    Train with some power lifters and get them to critique your technique. You may be able to add some pounds on the bar quickly once your form is dialled in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BG View Post
    I’ve done it. I could hit 405 for 15 but 500 nearly broke me in half. It’s like going from 315 to 405 on bench. Now I was only 225 and 5’7” so I’m small, might be why it felt like that, bigger the frame the more comfortable you could be. 405 was like 315 for me though, 500 was HEAVY.

    Get 3 spotters you trust and have them lift it with you. That’s a good way just to feel it and you can decide if you want to waste your time and taking the chance of injuring yourself. Kel told me he squatted 405 for 20, that became my goal. Much safer. Your pretty far away from 500.
    I run into similar sometimes with deadlifts. Like, everything is going well, good strong workout, good reps on the heavy sets. Decide, hell let me add just 10 pounds, I got this. And then it is like somebody welded the barbell to the floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    I run into similar sometimes with deadlifts. Like, everything is going well, good strong workout, good reps on the heavy sets. Decide, hell let me add just 10 pounds, I got this. And then it is like somebody welded the barbell to the floor.
    This is usually just an execution problem that most often pertains to bar path. Iíve seen it happen with a lot of guys. Something as small as a 10 lbs. jump causes the bar to drift just slightly forward on a pull, and suddenly youíve turned 10 lbs. bar increase into a 50+ lbs. jump just due to leverage advantage loss.
    This is true for most all compound lifts, but for S/B/D where you have so many joint angles to factor in, it can get really rough really quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    100% agree. I told him he was a fucking dick for making a comment like that plus some other choice words and think I scared him a bit (was on tren at the time) and felt really bad for the past week that I actually treated someone like that then just stopped giving a fuck and used it as motivation.


    Any tips? My biggest fear is injury which had held me back in the past.
    The lower the bar on your back, the more weight you can handle.
    My body does not allow it to go to low though.


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    OP, I'm going to share an assistance exercise that has worked for me in strength training, particularly with deadlift but it carries over strongly to squat.

    Seated good mornings. Keep your form good and weight light to start. Reps in the 6 to 10 range has worked for me.

    Let me emphasize the most important part of that message: keep your form RIGHTEOUS.

    I know a lot of people will hear 'good mornings' and the boo birds will show up. It's not going to be popular. That's ok, I get it - lots of people have injured themselves with standing good mornings. But the seated variety has worked well for me.

    Again, I am not talking about standing good mornings. Those do seem like a one way ticket to Back Pain Town with a stop in Injuryville.

    Here is a decent video on the exercise, though I typically do not go quite that far down. Well, I don't think I do, but I have never recorded myself so maybe I do.

    https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercis...-good-mornings

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    Oh one other thing. 265x8 is roughly a 335 or so 1 rep max, I think. 500 is totally doable but expect months of effort, if not years.

    Do you plan on raw training or will you suit up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    Oh one other thing. 265x8 is roughly a 335 or so 1 rep max, I think. 500 is totally doable but expect months of effort, if not years.

    Do you plan on raw training or will you suit up?
    Expecting it to take at least a year was just planning on using a belt, and picking up a set of knee sleeves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    I run into similar sometimes with deadlifts. Like, everything is going well, good strong workout, good reps on the heavy sets. Decide, hell let me add just 10 pounds, I got this. And then it is like somebody welded the barbell to the floor.
    When you have hit your REAL max, not a pr, but what your frame and build can handle 10lbs feels like a ton. Ive been stuck at a certain wait for a long time, thats where I usually called it quits on going any higher because I knew I was going to end up injuring myself.

    Edit: I couldn't dead 5 lbs over 635, I actually tried many times adding 2.5's on and couldn't get it.
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    It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    Expecting it to take at least a year was just planning on using a belt, and picking up a set of knee sleeves.
    If you can do this in a year you are a powerlifting prodigy. Not saying it can’t happen but i just dont see it, and please dont think im being an asshole im being honest here. By all means i hope you hit your goal. I know i could not do such a feat of strength in one year. It took me almost two years to go from a 325lb bench to a 385lb bench just sayin bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    If you can do this in a year you are a powerlifting prodigy. Not saying it canít happen but i just dont see it, and please dont think im being an asshole im being honest here. By all means i hope you hit your goal. I know i could not do such a feat of strength in one year. It took me almost two years to go from a 325lb bench to a 385lb bench just sayin bro
    I agree but will add to talk with a serious accomplished powerlifter.
    Couchlockd added 100 lbs to my working sets On bench in a few months.

    Form is key.
    I benched the wrong way all my life wondering why my shoulders hurt.

    A few pointers saved me a lotta hurt and lost time. I had reached a plateau and was moving backwards.
    Then smashed it and then some all at once.

    As far as legs go my failing was my quads.
    All the weight was on my inner quad.
    Holdmybeer suggested turning my toes in on extensions and I finally added sweep to the outside.
    It trained my quads to be more evenly balanced and my squat went up and I had to buy new pants.
    It also took an uneven muscle tension off my back.

    Squats are so pure because it is using the biggest muscle groups of your body in unison to do it correctly.

    It also takes a lot more nutrients to heal all that tear down. It's obviously the most taxing exercise on the body. For that reason some big name bbs dont squat and work the groups individually.

    Guys like BG and kel lived under a squat bar though and their uppers match the lower. It's because they were dedicated enough to never puss out on squats.
    It took many years.

    I hope the op squats 600 soon and bitch slaps the intimidated faggot that said he never could.
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    I watched a natty kid @ about 200 squat 405 so freaking flawless it was beautiful.

    I dont talk to people at the gym normally but I told him I have never seen anyone with such perfect form lift that heavy. He thanked me profusely. I hope that motivated him to get to doing the same with 500.

    Most people that act like friends just want to see you fail before you surpass them. That is the only way they can feel acconplished. Its the purest form of jealousy. Its stupid.
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    Do it if you really enjoy the training needed to get there (the path to your goal). If it's a matter of ego (just getting there to say "I told you")... well, people will always find ways to bash your acheivements, no matter how great.
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    When I was younger I squatted very heavy. I got up to 570 for a set of 6 or 8 can’t remember now the reps but I could feel that bar bending so badly it made me realize going any further was pointless and would just risk injury. I honestly haven’t done any significant weight on squats in years. My legs were huge then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sv.elia View Post
    Do it if you really enjoy the training needed to get there (the path to your goal). If it's a matter of ego (just getting there to say "I told you")... well, people will always find ways to bash your acheivements, no matter how great.
    It's partly a matter of ego. I worked my ass off and got to a 500 lb dead lift at 184 lbs bw and had fun doing it seeing my lifts steadily increase really motivates me. My overall goal is bodybuilding and to maybe do a show some day but I want a lot more strength and size first.

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    If someone said “I don’t believe you could jump off this building and live,” would you do it? Squatting and deadlifting will damage your back, hips, and knees, so save up for surgery and be prepared to be a cripple when you’re older. There is nothing healthy about compressing your spine. What will it matter when it hurts to do anything and you can’t even sleep?


    I see a lot of younger guys that are like you, sub 200 lbs and hardly look like they even lift, yet there they are squatting and deadlifting all day. It’s a joke to me.


    **I should have said squatting/deadlifting 500 lbs is bad, not in general***
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    If someone said ďI donít believe you could jump off this building and live,Ē would you do it? Squatting and deadlifting will damage your back, hips, and knees, so save up for surgery and be prepared to be a cripple when youíre older. There is nothing healthy about compressing your spine. What will it matter when it hurts to do anything and you canít even sleep?


    I see a lot of younger guys that are like you, sub 200 lbs and hardly look like they even lift, yet there they are squatting and deadlifting all day. Itís a joke to me.
    Thereís nothing healthy about anything that most of us do. Force-feeding for growth directly shortens lifespan by several biological feedback loops. Loading any of the joints repeatedly to failure (or close) inevitably leads to breakdown over the years. I know just as many bodybuilders with fucked up backs, shoulders and elbows as powerlifters.
    Letís not even discuss what comes with the drugs that most of us use.

    We all have poisons. Itís just a matter of which you prefer the taste of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    If someone said ¬ďI don¬ít believe you could jump off this building and live,¬Ē would you do it? Squatting and deadlifting will damage your back, hips, and knees, so save up for surgery and be prepared to be a cripple when you¬íre older. There is nothing healthy about compressing your spine. What will it matter when it hurts to do anything and you can¬ít even sleep?


    I see a lot of younger guys that are like you, sub 200 lbs and hardly look like they even lift, yet there they are squatting and deadlifting all day. It’s a joke to me.
    it's a little different than jumping of a building this is something I wanted and was told it's not going to happen that's just going to make me try harder and if it gets too rough on my body I'll just call it quits and change direction. I know a few people who squat and deadlift almost every day and barley look like they lift that's not what I want, I want to be big and strong as fuck. As far as being a cripple hopefully the drugs kill me first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    If someone said “I don’t believe you could jump off this building and live,” would you do it?
    On the right day I would take them with me and use them as a shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Squatting and deadlifting will damage your back, hips, and knees, so save up for surgery and be prepared to be a cripple when you’re older. There is nothing healthy about compressing your spine.
    blasphemy!!!!

    (And coming from someone who hurt his shoulder doing DB militaries with a reported 115 lbs none-the-less....)

    Squats and deadlifts done properly will only make you stronger in the long haul IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    blasphemy!!!!

    (And coming from someone who hurt his shoulder doing DB militaries with a reported 115 lbs none-the-less....)

    Squats and deadlifts done properly will only make you stronger in the long haul IMHO.
    Calm down guys jeeze...

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    If you do anything as hard as you can you will pay the price.

    But you can do it moderately and be ok.

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    and then there is Joe...

    89 years old deadlifting 405

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BtbTyxqgaR1/?hl=en
    Obs and sv.elia like this.

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