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Thread: Bad news for UGLs

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    Bad news for UGLs

    Article posted below is China making things very difficult, sending dealers to life in prison and sometimes death.

    https://uglnewsletter.com/2019/12/05...YRjMQTjn7luKno

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    the PDF of the substances banned... https://uglnewsletter.com/wp-content...tance-List.pdf

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    Wont effect a damn thing, look how many drug dealers there are in the United States. Same laws here, trafficking equals life without....

    Ban all guns? Nope...still gonna be guns

    Uglís arent going anywhere
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    I don't doubt they will, but what when your govt (China) threats to execute you, may cause some people to bail from the industry lol. I'm thinking people will fake even more products so when they do get caught, they were selling non-banned substances and not face life? IDK. Certainly this doesn't help for sure.

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    This is the third thread on the subject now.

    Prices will rise, order times will lengthen, shitty sources will disappear, and it will return to normal once othe pharma companies pick up the slack.

    Probably a year or so.

    International sources will be slammed and many remaining shit ugls will do pump and dump sales of shit and fake gear.

    For a time though.... We will all be screwed a little bit.

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    Shit I better get all the test I need while I can. I don't know where these sources get their powders from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Shit I better get all the test I need while I can. I don't know where these sources get their powders from.
    That is the idea.
    Mist get it from china but prices will rise as supply wont meet the demand.

    Imagine all sources were domestic UGL's...

    Once that ugl is praised for fast service on the open web and anyone is allowed to order gear that is greatly reviewed, they get swamped.

    They fall behind.
    They cant source enough raws and pretty soon they maje excuses as to why their order are taking one month instead of four days.

    The demand continues but they just cannot meet the demand with the current supply.

    This is exactly what happened to AEL.
    They simply cut dosage or recieved cut raws.
    They went from the top straight to hell in about a month.

    Everyone needs to hold their source accountable but understand if orders take longer. Sources best learn to be fucking straight up honest about how lomg the order will take instead of making promises they cant keep or blaming bullshit.


    The honest ones that source elsewhere will blow up huge. The liars that make excuses will be wiped out quick.

    Hats off to the legit chinese suppliers that told their loyal customers months ago what was happening.

    China too will be back in the market someday I giarantee it.

    For now though most raws will come from moldova, russia, malaysia, and India.

    In the end its no loss.
    No need to panic.

    If there is something the individual can do to insure their future in the game, it is to start forming bonds with brothers and make connections.

    This will be a good thing in the end.
    We all got way to used to having shit on a silver platter. It will be like back when I first came to the game and bonds will be tighter.

    Fuck the politicians.
    They can never be as strong as the brotherhood.

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    I probably should have made that a thread.
    I may later if the china threads continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    That is the idea.
    Mist get it from china but prices will rise as supply wont meet the demand.

    Imagine all sources were domestic UGL's...

    Once that ugl is praised for fast service on the open web and anyone is allowed to order gear that is greatly reviewed, they get swamped.

    They fall behind.
    They cant source enough raws and pretty soon they maje excuses as to why their order are taking one month instead of four days.

    The demand continues but they just cannot meet the demand with the current supply.

    This is exactly what happened to AEL.
    They simply cut dosage or recieved cut raws.
    They went from the top straight to hell in about a month.

    Everyone needs to hold their source accountable but understand if orders take longer. Sources best learn to be fucking straight up honest about how lomg the order will take instead of making promises they cant keep or blaming bullshit.


    The honest ones that source elsewhere will blow up huge. The liars that make excuses will be wiped out quick.

    Hats off to the legit chinese suppliers that told their loyal customers months ago what was happening.

    China too will be back in the market someday I giarantee it.

    For now though most raws will come from moldova, russia, malaysia, and India.

    In the end its no loss.
    No need to panic.

    If there is something the individual can do to insure their future in the game, it is to start forming bonds with brothers and make connections.

    This will be a good thing in the end.
    We all got way to used to having shit on a silver platter. It will be like back when I first came to the game and bonds will be tighter.

    Fuck the politicians.
    They can never be as strong as the brotherhood.


    Lmao.

    So today I ordered - 50ML of Deca 300/ML, 120ml of Primo 200/ML, 120ML of 250C, and 200 Anavar 50mg....... I dont give a fuck what China bans. I'm set for a good while
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    You’re right about the other locations (Moldova, etc.), in fact they may rise up to the demand since China won’t be outselling them any longer. Less competition means more costly, but like you said, someone will rise to the occasion.

    I wonder if this will affect ancillaries or other drugs? Nolvadex , Adex,HCG ....tadalafil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    You’re right about the other locations (Moldova, etc.), in fact they may rise up to the demand since China won’t be outselling them any longer. Less competition means more costly, but like you said, someone will rise to the occasion.

    I wonder if this will affect ancillaries or other drugs? Nolvadex, Adex,HCG....tadalafil.
    Thats a good question but india is a pharma superpower and I suspect them to rise to most of the demand.
    Plenty of name brand pharma juice comes from there anyway.
    ADC for example sells all pharma stuff and has weiner pills galore for cheap. But the demand will still smack them like a brick for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    That is the idea.
    Mist get it from china but prices will rise as supply wont meet the demand.

    Imagine all sources were domestic UGL's...

    Once that ugl is praised for fast service on the open web and anyone is allowed to order gear that is greatly reviewed, they get swamped.

    They fall behind.
    They cant source enough raws and pretty soon they maje excuses as to why their order are taking one month instead of four days.

    The demand continues but they just cannot meet the demand with the current supply.

    This is exactly what happened to AEL.
    They simply cut dosage or recieved cut raws.
    They went from the top straight to hell in about a month.

    Everyone needs to hold their source accountable but understand if orders take longer. Sources best learn to be fucking straight up honest about how lomg the order will take instead of making promises they cant keep or blaming bullshit.


    The honest ones that source elsewhere will blow up huge. The liars that make excuses will be wiped out quick.

    Hats off to the legit chinese suppliers that told their loyal customers months ago what was happening.

    China too will be back in the market someday I giarantee it.

    For now though most raws will come from moldova, russia, malaysia, and India.

    In the end its no loss.
    No need to panic.

    If there is something the individual can do to insure their future in the game, it is to start forming bonds with brothers and make connections.

    This will be a good thing in the end.
    We all got way to used to having shit on a silver platter. It will be like back when I first came to the game and bonds will be tighter.

    Fuck the politicians.
    They can never be as strong as the brotherhood.
    Makes sense, thanks for the clarification
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    No need to panic like Obs said.
    If anything prices will go up a bit until they figure out better ways to get their shit shipped out without getting caught or noticed.
    Also, there are a shit load of labs coming out of Russia and Ukraine with good stuff and good prices... Those will probably take advantage and cover up for any shortage from China.
    When are they going to make all this legal and save us the headache
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    Quote Originally Posted by CA_DXB_85 View Post
    No need to panic like Obs said.
    If anything prices will go up a bit until they figure out better ways to get their shit shipped out without getting caught or noticed.
    Also, there are a shit load of labs coming out of Russia and Ukraine with good stuff and good prices... Those will probably take advantage and cover up for any shortage from China.
    When are they going to make all this legal and save us the headache
    When they figure out how to tax and make lots of money off of it while also not hurting big pharma industry.... In other words we'll be able to buy it over the counter for 5 times the cost we pay now.... Just like Marijuana now in California aka Comi-fornia!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitmare67 View Post
    When they figure out how to tax and make lots of money off of it while also not hurting big pharma industry.... In other words we'll be able to buy it over the counter for 5 times the cost we pay now.... Just like Marijuana now in California aka Comi-fornia!
    Honestly, I donít think the pharma pull on Washington is as strong as people think. Look at it this way: things like Masteron , primo, Anadrol , etc. have been largely (or entirely) shelved as viable products over the years because of things being created that donít have virilizing effects (allowing them to be used in women and children). Tamox replacing masteron, epo replacing nandrolone and boldenone , etc. come to mind.
    Now, knowing what weíre all willing to pay for good quality gear, it would make far more sense for pharmaceutical corps to push for these things to be descheduled and available for purchase either OTC, or with with something like how ephedrine is now in the US (a limit on total grams per month). This would allow them to basically pull a mint by charging relatively stupid prices for pharmaceutical quality gear, and reduce ancillary risks to every person who uses AAS.
    Instead, they have decades worth of patents and holdings collecting dust and making them zero money, while China (up to now) and the guys willing to play the black market soak all of their profit potential.
    This is where people get it fucked up. Yeah, thereís very little profit in Testosterone for the pharmaceutical corps. Thereís a shitload of profit potential in all of the AAS though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    Honestly, I don’t think the pharma pull on Washington is as strong as people think. Look at it this way: things like Masteron , primo, Anadrol , etc. have been largely (or entirely) shelved as viable products over the years because of things being created that don’t have virilizing effects (allowing them to be used in women and children). Tamox replacing masteron, epo replacing nandrolone and boldenone , etc. come to mind.
    Now, knowing what we’re all willing to pay for good quality gear, it would make far more sense for pharmaceutical corps to push for these things to be descheduled and available for purchase either OTC, or with with something like how ephedrine is now in the US (a limit on total grams per month). This would allow them to basically pull a mint by charging relatively stupid prices for pharmaceutical quality gear, and reduce ancillary risks to every person who uses AAS.
    Instead, they have decades worth of patents and holdings collecting dust and making them zero money, while China (up to now) and the guys willing to play the black market soak all of their profit potential.
    This is where people get it fucked up. Yeah, there’s very little profit in Testosterone for the pharmaceutical corps. There’s a shitload of profit potential in all of the AAS though.
    Its just a left out forgotten market.
    Pharma only cares about big name blockbuster drugs. Cialis for example, sofosbuvir, etc.

    When they care it reflecys directly in a 100 fold price gouge.

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    Canada prices went up anywhere from $5-15 per vial. And a few labs use 5mL vials here. When you are buying 10+ vials per cycle it definitely adds up.

    Almost want to buy 10 years worth of Tren and Primo then call it a day. Maybe a bunch of exotic compounds / mixes just to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CA_DXB_85 View Post
    No need to panic like Obs said.
    If anything prices will go up a bit until they figure out better ways to get their shit shipped out without getting caught or noticed.
    Also, there are a shit load of labs coming out of Russia and Ukraine with good stuff and good prices... Those will probably take advantage and cover up for any shortage from China.
    When are they going to make all this legal and save us the headache
    Agreed. Portugal went radical and decriminalized all drugs. They had a massive drop of theft, HIV or STI infection, overall crime, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Agreed. Portugal went radical and decriminalized all drugs. They had a massive drop of theft, HIV or STI infection, overall crime, etc.
    Yeap. Unfortunately, we have precisely one candidate in the upcoming US elections who favors the Portugal model, and it would likely never pass congress, even if he were to win the presidency.

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