Sust , Deca, Tren E cycle... concerns with Var/Winny last 4 weeks?

Looking to start cycle of
Sust 250
Deca 400
Tren 200
Diet is in placelean hard muscle 10lbs ish...

Finish the last 4 weeks on Var or Winny.. anyone tried this or any info?

Thank you

I like low dose test cycles .. but in this situation I'd run your test much higher , heck even a gram

IMHO;Add Masteron!!!Increase the dose of testo,dose higher than Deca / Trenbolone.

Imo;

Masteron, in addition to providing you with anti-estrogenic effects, has the ability to inhibit prolactin at the receptors; 300 to 400mg of Masteron per week appears to be a solid dose dealing with (19-nor) steroids
Deca and Trenbolone for example, carries a progestinic nature.

Okay, (19-nor) increases progesterone; brief explanation:
Progesterone increases because many receptors are activated by progestins. Progestins are compounds that act on these receptors, such as trenbolone and nandrolone or any 19-nor steroid. This is what causes progesterone to increase and why do you see the increase when these steroids are introduced?

It is worse in the presence of excess estrogen! Especially in the breasts, as it acts to promote breast tissue together with estrogen, increasing 1GF-1 in the breast. In addition, progesterone directly stimulates estrogenic activity in breast tissues. So here we have a semi-direct influence. High progesterone increases estrogenic activity and results in gynecomastia!

Your first line of defense is to control estrogen! Use nolvadex for this.


Imo:
Nolva blocks the estrogen receptor.


The progesterone receptor is then synthesized.


Blocked estrogen receptor = progesterone receptor, down-regulated.

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

I like low dose test cycles .. but in this situation I'd run your test much higher , heck even a gram

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How much higher?
600-800?
How is everything else?

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Originally Posted by davimeireles

IMHO;Add Masteron!!!Increase the dose of testo,dose higher than Deca / Trenbolone.

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I’ve heard good things, currently don’t have in stock. I have what i listed. Thank you for your input

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Originally Posted by davimeireles

Imo;

Masteron, in addition to providing you with estrogenic effects, has the ability to inhibit prolactin at the receptors; 300 to 400mg of Masteron per week appears to be a solid dose dealing with (19-nor) steroids
Deca and Trenbolone for example, carries a progestinic nature.

Okay, (19-nor) increases progesterone; brief explanation:
Progesterone increases because many receptors are activated by progestins. Progestins are compounds that act on these receptors, such as trenbolone and nandrolone or any 19-nor steroid. This is what causes progesterone to increase and why do you see the increase when these steroids are introduced?

It is worse in the presence of excess estrogen! Especially in the breasts, as it acts to promote breast tissue together with estrogen, increasing 1GF-1 in the breast. In addition, progesterone directly stimulates estrogenic activity in breast tissues. So here we have a semi-direct influence. High progesterone increases estrogenic activity and results in gynecomastia!

Your first line of defense is to control estrogen! Use nolvadex for this.


Imo:
Nolva blocks the estrogen receptor.


The progesterone receptor is then synthesized.


Blocked estrogen receptor = progesterone receptor, down-regulated.

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Thank you, i currently take something for this but may increase dosage once starting

In my humble opinion;




.600mg -750mg per week of testo, with 400mg of Deca per week,




.300mg- of Trenbolone per week.




.400mg masteron per week
masteron




.Nolvadex always at hand / doses 10mg -20mg per day.

GearHeaded, are you around? If you are, answer a question;


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Can oral winstrol + anavar at the end of a cutting cycle fight cortisol?
If yes,
how does it act to fight cortisol?

Get something better than sust... Enjoy those eod injections otherwise. Useless crap drug IMO. Either do prop or e/c. Personally I'd do e/c so you can inject 2x a week.

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Originally Posted by davimeireles

GearHeaded, are you around? If you are, answer a question;


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Can oral winstrol + anavar at the end of a cutting cycle fight cortisol?
If yes,
how does it act to fight cortisol?

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Bump… Gearheaded?

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Originally Posted by davimeireles

GearHeaded, are you around? If you are, answer a question;


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Can oral winstrol + anavar at the end of a cutting cycle fight cortisol?
If yes,
how does it act to fight cortisol?

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Winstrol will block all cortisone production at the adrenal glands themselves, so it's not like it lowers it but by blocking the receptors it keeps cortisol levels on point.

And with Anavar is basically the same cause it up-regulates the Androgen Receptor and it will also antagonize the catabolic actions of Cortisol

Just be careful with the cholesterol as Tren fucks it up and when you add winstrol at the end, it will smash the hell out of your cholesterol levels (putting up the bad cholesterol and the good one down).

But I was running sust, mast, tren and anavar half way through and added winstrol 4 weeks before the end and the results were insane. Man, winstrol just takes things to a whole new level! But it still fucked my cholesterol with all the liver support supplements, fish oil and them greens detox drinks I was taking.

Also, winstrol will give u achy joints, I had to drop the AI for things to feel smooth again in my joints.

I say add it and enjoy the results but keep an eye on cholesterol somehow.
Hope this helps

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Originally Posted by CA_DXB_85

Just be careful with the cholesterol as Tren fucks it up and when you add winstrol at the end, it will smash the hell out of your cholesterol levels (putting up the bad cholesterol and the good one down).

But I was running sust, mast, tren and anavar half way through and added winstrol 4 weeks before the end and the results were insane. Man, winstrol just takes things to a whole new level! But it still fucked my cholesterol with all the liver support supplements, fish oil and them greens detox drinks I was taking.

Also, winstrol will give u achy joints, I had to drop the AI for things to feel smooth again in my joints.

I say add it and enjoy the results but keep an eye on cholesterol somehow.
Hope this helps

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Thank you! I have already had blood work done and everything was good so far. I will keep an eye on it for sure. Your post makes me want to take Deca out and just run var with it then Winny the last 4..

The cholesterol is all temporarily affected. Nothing to worry about unless you stay on tren for 40 years. No point to monitor it on cycle. It's going to be outrageous.

Only worry about cholesterol once you're off cycle and return back to "normal"