Test E NPP Mast and proviron cycle

[Marc81]

Fellas

Need to collect your thoughts on this new cycle.
Wk 1-10. Test E 500mg/wk
Wk 1-10. NPP 400mg/wk
Wk 4-10.Mast 400 mg/wk
Wk. 1-4. Proviron. 50mg/day
Wk 1-10. A-dex. 0.25mg eod

Standard Pct. Nolva and clomid for 4 weeks

Age 38
Weight 195 lbs
Height 5' 8"
Bodyfat : 12-13%

Have completed 8 cycles. I prefer to do 1 cycle in 1 year. Diet- I keep it very clean. Generally keep it at 4000.

What do you guys think of this cycle? Target is to gain around 10lbs without retaining much water.

Am i wasting proviron here or Mast?

[Marc81]

Anybody?

[xxblazenlowxx]

with 8 cycles under your belt you should be pretty knowledgeable by now!

I have never used proviron So cant be of any help

I think its common knowledge that Mast acts as an AI



on such a light cycle compared to others I would not run an AI especially with mast.

There are way more knowledgeable members here, hopefully one will chime in if your patient

[The Deadlifting Dog]

why on earth are you using proviron for the first 4 weeks then mast for the remainder??

[Marc81]

why on earth are you using proviron for the first 4 weeks then mast for the remainder??

Coz i was thinking to use proviron as a kick start until test and npp kick in. And then Mast can keep me harder while on test and npp.

Phrase share your thoughts

[Super User 4]

I would say if your objective is just to gain quick why don't you just do some test, deca and some AI and Caber and if you wanna dry out a little at the end you can use some Winstrol or Anavar

[jstone]

Coz i was thinking to use proviron as a kick start until test and npp kick in. And then Mast can keep me harder while on test and npp.

Phrase share your thoughts

Proviron is the wrong compound for a kick start. Find a different one that suits your goals, and run the mast the entire time. Something like dbol, anadrol, tbol, or a few others would be much better to start a cycle with.

[Marc81]

Proviron is the wrong compound for a kick start. Find a different one that suits your goals, and run the mast the entire time. Something like dbol, anadrol, tbol, or a few others would be much better to start a cycle with.

Only problem with dbol or anadrol is that I hold a lot of water after 4 weeks.
If i run winstrol for last 5 weeks of 12 weeks cycle along with test, npp and mast, can i shed all the water which i gained before starting winstrol.
I never did gaining and cutting in 1 cycle before. Anybody has this experience?

[Marc81]

All my previous cycles have been pretty simple having only 2 compounds - test and eq, test and primo and test and tren. Added something like dbol or proviron in couple of cycles.
I try to keep it simple with my diet doing the major work with support of AAS.

[GearHeaded]

the only thing that proviron is going to 'kickstart' is your DHT levels . and keep in mind, neither proviron or DHT are anabolic in muscle tissue.

having said that . I really like Test, Npp, Mast together. works very well.. if you've never ran Mast , you may want to give the mast a shot before you add any AI to this cycle (AI's are one of the biggest hinderer of muscle gains of any compound you could take .. not ideal for growth)

[Marc81]

the only thing that proviron is going to 'kickstart' is your DHT levels . and keep in mind, neither proviron or DHT are anabolic in muscle tissue.

having said that . I really like Test, Npp, Mast together. works very well.. if you've never ran Mast , you may want to give the mast a shot before you add any AI to this cycle (AI's are one of the biggest hinderer of muscle gains of any compound you could take .. not ideal for growth)

Ok, sounds good. How about the following doses. Need an idea on winstrol doses.

Wk 1-12 Test E 500 mg/wk
Wk 1-12 NPP. 500 mg/wk
Dbol wk 1-4. Up to 50mg
Wk 1-12 Mast 400mg/wk
Wk 7-12. Winstrol 200mg/wk ???

AI ... only if nipples start getting sore

[Marc81]

Ok, sounds good. How about the following doses. Need an idea on winstrol doses.

Wk 1-12 Test E 500 mg/wk
Wk 1-12 NPP. 500 mg/wk
Dbol wk 1-4. Up to 50mg
Wk 1-12 Mast 400mg/wk
Wk 7-12. Winstrol 200mg/wk ???

AI ... only if nipples start getting sore

Anybody can chime in for above dosages?

[xxblazenlowxx]

Anybody can chime in for above dosages?

Looks good

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Ok, sounds good. How about the following doses. Need an idea on winstrol doses.

Wk 1-12 Test E 500 mg/wk
Wk 1-12 NPP. 500 mg/wk
Dbol wk 1-4. Up to 50mg
Wk 1-12 Mast 400mg/wk
Wk 7-12. Winstrol 200mg/wk ???

AI ... only if nipples start getting sore

Winstrol at 50mg per day is a good dosage.

[Marc81]

Winstrol at 50mg per day is a good dosage.

So 350mg in a week..ok.

Should i increase my Mast dosage too?

Read a lot about npp vs deca. Anybody can vouch for one over other from their experience?

[Super User 4]

So 350mg in a week..ok.

Should i increase my Mast dosage too?

Read a lot about npp vs deca. Anybody can vouch for one over other from their experience?

I think your Mast dosage if good. I have tried deca and it's great