Masteron doses

51yrs old, lifting on and off for 30yrs, back into it over the last year.
Currently on my 8th cycle, but 1st in 7yrs.
100kg, 180cm, 13% BF

I have been on 500 test E per week (and a bit of prop to kickstart) and 30-50mg Dianabol a day for the last 5 weeks which is pretty much the cycle I used to run back in the day (with Deca sometimes previously).
I have had good gains in strength and weight this cycle, looking better, no bad side effects with appropriate AI.

I have now finished with the Dbol and I have Masteron P and E to take over for the rest of my cycle (7 weeks remaining).
I was looking to use Mast to reduce bloat from Dbol and to start cutting back slightly before the end of beach weather, and I had read Masteron can still help with strength increases and some increase in muscle mass if taken in large enough doses.

I read some recommend 300-400mg for cutting, while some here liked 600mg p.w, what did you notice when running higher doses? Did it increase strength? Did you gain any muscle mass over what the test base would have given you? Did you get any improvements going higher? I was hoping to not only keep my Dbol gains but if possible keep increasing lean mass slightly without upping the test dose too much.

Anywhere from 400-600 will work. I see mast as an ancillary. Theres no reason not to run it. It curbs estro and prolactin, while increasing sex drive and strength. 400 is where the therapeutic properties will start, anything beyond that will continue to help with the latter. Of course like anything else, if you run some insane amount there will be diminishing returns.

Keeping dbol gains are tricky. Best way to keep dbol gains is to taper off of it. Dont just run it for 4-5 weeks then stop. Continue another 1-3 weeks at a low dose. Take a liver supplement.

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Originally Posted by Octaneforce

Anywhere from 400-600 will work. I see mast as an ancillary. Theres no reason not to run it. It curbs estro and prolactin, while increasing sex drive and strength. 400 is where the therapeutic properties will start, anything beyond that will continue to help with the latter. Of course like anything else, if you run some insane amount there will be diminishing returns.

Keeping dbol gains are tricky. Best way to keep dbol gains is to taper off of it. Dont just run it for 4-5 weeks then stop. Continue another 1-3 weeks at a low dose. Take a liver supplement.

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I wish I would have left enough Dbol over to taper off as it is something I considered. Luckily I did have a few tabs left and so have been only taking 10mg a day pre-workout for the last week.
So far I have had 3 hits of 125mg of Mast P and body weight and strength are still continuing to climb slightly or at least not drop off, but I will see how the Masteron addition goes over the next few weeks. I will continue with 500mg Test E PW as I did before and will settle on 400mg PW of Masteron. So far no difference in sex drive but it was already good enough during the Test/Dbol stage.

Masteron is awesome. Keep that prostate in check at your age. I find 600mgs a week is good for inexperienced and experienced alike. I've used it over 1000mgs weekly and prefer it in the 600 range.

I run it at 300-375mg/Week when I use 19nord

Sorry for the hijack but keeping on topic, if I could ask you guys ...

What is your frequency of pinning with Mast? And how much per pin? I am looking at 500 per week of Mast C because of the less frequent pin schedule (250 every 4days?) compared to Mast P (100 every other day)

you are close to my age and stats, but much leaner

What are your thoughts?




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MastP is all I ever ran - qd, eod & sometimes pushing it to 2-3x weekly


Long ester mast "should" work when pinned less frequently





No reason not to run - well, that's what I used to think until it fucked with my piss pressure(I was on tren & mast). Pulled off, felt fine - psa caem back perfect


It's not easy on the prostate - specially for the older folk


Love me some mast tho




Proviron seems to be a good replacement for me so far

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Originally Posted by Windex

I run it at 300-375mg/Week when I use 19nord

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I've had excellent results with MASTERON AT 300-400MG although some run more.

Agree 400 is a good number 600 is great I just don’t like pinning that much

I agree Mast has dosage flexibility.

Also, it is not good to use Dbol in excess of 5 weeks (actually 4), even with a liver protector. It's just a jump starter, and did it's job. Your Test and other chems will sustain anabolism, not the ramping down of Dbol. I think Octane was multi-tasking or thinking of something else when he said that. He knows his stuff.

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Originally Posted by magic32

I agree Mast has dosage flexibility.

Also, it is not good to use Dbol in excess of 5 weeks (actually 4), even with a liver protector. It's just a jump starter, and did it's job. Your Test and other chems will sustain anabolism, not the ramping down of Dbol. I think Octane was multi-tasking or thinking of something else when he said that. He knows his stuff.

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I Appreciate the kind words. But im naughty and I’ll run the dbol past 4 weeks. Loww dose. 10-20mg a week. Any oral i typically never go passed 6 weeks. The dbol “taper” method was actually shown to me by gearhead. He can explain it more scientifically than i can, but ive found tapering down dbol really helps to mature the size and strength.

You are right tho. Its a risk on the liver. Ive seen guys run orals 10+ weeks non stop sith no issues. Ive also seen a dude shut down his kidneys in 3 weeks from orals. Bloodwork is key.

20mg of dbol is not terribly bad on a liver that isnt already fucked up lol.

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No reason not to run - well, that's what I used to think until it fucked with my piss pressure(I was on tren & mast).
It's not easy on the prostate - specially for the older folk

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I have searched and have found no mention of Mast affecting prostate health.
Could it have been the Tren?

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Originally Posted by PT1982

Masteron is awesome. Keep that prostate in check at your age. I find 600mgs a week is good for inexperienced and experienced alike. I've used it over 1000mgs weekly and prefer it in the 600 range.

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And just what did you notice with Mast at 600mg to 1000mg a week?

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Originally Posted by Octaneforce

I Appreciate the kind words. But im naughty and I’ll run the dbol past 4 weeks. Loww dose. 10-20mg a week. Any oral i typically never go passed 6 weeks. The dbol “taper” method was actually shown to me by gearhead. He can explain it more scientifically than i can, but ive found tapering down dbol really helps to mature the size and strength.

You are right tho. Its a risk on the liver. Ive seen guys run orals 10+ weeks non stop sith no issues. Ive also seen a dude shut down his kidneys in 3 weeks from orals. Bloodwork is key.

20mg of dbol is not terribly bad on a liver that isnt already fucked up lol.

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All that is true INDEED!

And I both understand and see why you (as a veteran user) are doing it that way.

My only issue, most respectfully, is that as you cited extending harsh orals (which Dbol certainly is) even at low doses can be a risky proposition, i.e., per your description, a virtual crap shoot - the possibility of both ZERO problems and SEVERE problems.

Consequently, I (and this is just my humble opinion) don't think such practices should be recommended, or even referenced in an open forum in the presence of so many novice users.

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Originally Posted by Octaneforce

Anywhere from 400-600 will work. I see mast as an ancillary. Theres no reason not to run it. It curbs estro and prolactin, while increasing sex drive and strength. 400 is where the therapeutic properties will start, anything beyond that will continue to help with the latter. Of course like anything else, if you run some insane amount there will be diminishing returns.

Keeping dbol gains are tricky. Best way to keep dbol gains is to taper off of it. Dont just run it for 4-5 weeks then stop. Continue another 1-3 weeks at a low dose. Take a liver supplement.

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Im planning a back to back 6 month bulk/cut cycle. 500mgNandroDecano/300mgTestEnth clean bulk for 3 months then a 500mgMast/300mgTestEnth cut for 3 months.

I have been wanting to isolate the effects of Masteron just to see what its all about, never used it before, so I wont be running any other cutting compound with it except maybe Proviron.

Do you think 500mg of Mast weekly will be enough to hold on to all the muscle during the cut and maybe even increase strength?