Im doing a deca cycle soon and I was hoping I wouldnt need something like caber if I keep the dosage at a sane level. I will be doing a Tren cycle further down the line. I was planning on doing 300mg of Test and 500Mg of Nandro Enenthate for 3 months.
Do you find it necessary to run Mast and or Ai with Deca or Tren?
I’ve never encountered any prolactin issues with either at doses up to 600 of deca and tren. Probably a good idea to keep it on hand and my experiences are anecdotal. As for mast, it’s a great drug to run alongside and it’s the only AI type product I’ve run with high doses of test but I’m also not estrogen sensitive or gyno prone. Test, tren and mast stack is tried and true. Whether you’ll need and AI or SERM is purely individual and your sensitivities to gyno will be the critical factor. Any issues previous? Again, probably good to have on hand. I do better with higher estrogen levels and increased prolactin doesn’t seem to negatively affect me either except for some slight anorgasmiaQuote:
Originally Posted by tlaloc
Nandrolone is one of my all time favorite substances in the PED world. I prefer using NPP as it is the short ester and my goals are reached a bit quicker. I like using shorts for many reasons; one of which is that if I do experience negative effects, I can simply stop using and return to normal faster. However I have never had any negative side effects using nandrolone. In fact, I've had more negative sides from using high dosed testosterone than I have high dosed nandrolone.
I once had pretty itchy nips and armpits on a cycle of 600mgs Test E and 50 mgs D-bol. I was using about .25 Arimidex EOD. I smashed the itchy nips with Letro, Raloxifene and Nolva. Currently on a cycle of 300mgs Test E with 75MG anadrol . Decided to forego the ai to see if I can get away with it. About 5 weeks in and im fine without the ai. Havent done any labs though. Thanks for the input.
Thats great. I am hoping im the same way with the Deca.
No experience with tren, but I had no sides at 4-500 mg deca.
Nice.
In my experience, the Prolactin sides are way overstated unless you go crazy high on doses. For me, the sides that get me are the mental one's. Short temper and crazy, irrational jealousy.
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I wouldn't forgo the AI if you already experienced itchy nips in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by tlaloc
I’ve run deca up to 900mg with 0 sides. Tren I’ve experienced insomnia, night sweats as well as some other irritability but that was only when I ran high test with the tren.
Running NPP for the 1st time (500 p/wk). I feel just fine at that dose.
Around 400mg+ per week after about 4 weeks Tren makes me calculatedly evil.
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My bitch tits sprouted after a few shots of tren e
Not even one cc of tren e ea
With Tren I usually run 100 mg eod. And at that those side effects start to manifest after about a month. It's a fairly moderate dose so I get the usual manageable sides of night sweats, occasional insomnia, acne will occasionally flare up a bit on my back.
I always have caber on hand but at that dose I tend to do just fine with out it. Maximum gains with manageable sides
Pretty sure it was around 700 mg of tren e mark when shit started hitting the fan for me...
I ran 500mg Test and 500mg deca a week. Around week 6 I needed cialis but libido was through the roof for the whole cycle. No AI