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03-12-2020, 11:13 PM #1
Tren and corona.
Are trenusers at higher risk of serious corona complications?
Tren for sure degrades the lounges function and to my knowledge corona hits harder on people with breathing problemes.
What do u think guys?
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03-12-2020, 11:49 PM #2
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03-13-2020, 03:01 AM #3
My personal opinion, Corno will hit us hard, On test the immune system is mostly weak (regardless of how much vitamin C / zinc you take) ...
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03-13-2020, 04:47 AM #4New Member
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I’m here in Italy right now and the situation is really fucked up, and I’m on mid-cycle right now on my last week of Tren /Bold/Test E.
Everything is in lockdown and this is scaring the shit of us, now I’m just worried if I get this shit I’m gonna need to stop my cycle lol
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03-13-2020, 05:13 AM #5
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03-13-2020, 05:30 AM #6
I wouldn’t want to be on any serious cycle during this time. The flu is already bad enough, but being hit by the coronavirus, on top of the body being stressed by tren , EQ, etc. would not be good.
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^ pretty much
I’m off most gear rn anyway, but now it def seems like a good time to b so
I think this garbage of hit any one of us(the juiced kind) would really rock our shit up. We already have poor immune systems
+ I have weak ass lungs
And, last but far from least - this shit seems to have a valley fever kind of long term lung damaging effects
= all bad
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03-13-2020, 07:17 AM #8Productive Member
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Or .. did we just find the cure to covid19?
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03-13-2020, 08:12 AM #9Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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Primobolan is what everyone should be using right now
I no longer check my inbox. If you PM me I will not reply.
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03-13-2020, 09:13 AM #10
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03-13-2020, 12:30 PM #12New Member
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I'm contest prepping in the UK so I'm soooo confused on whats happening. Think we may be on a lockdown in a week or two.
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03-13-2020, 02:32 PM #13Senior Member
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Fucking A...
I am retired in Poland, and tonight they just locked up the country, sealed the borders, closed shopping malls, restaurants and nightclubs...
Yesterday I just shot some Tren ...
I guess it will be cease and desist from this point forward...
I am less afraid of the virus than I am of the economic impact...
Time to batten down the hatches and ride the storm out.
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03-13-2020, 02:36 PM #14
We do have weakened immune system but most of us are fairly healthy people i think. Im gonna just stay on a cruise dose of test for awhile I already feel more normal and weight is holding...as for tren id leave it alone for now. Heres a little excerpt about testosterone , remember tren is 5x more powerful
Testosterone effects
Additional analyses showed that testosterone reduces levels of certain transcription factors (regulatory proteins) that ordinarily prevent Module 52 genes from “turning on.” In other words, higher testosterone levels result in more Module 52 expression. Several Module 52 genes have known immune-system connections; activation of one of these genes, for example, results in the accelerated differentiation of cells whose job it is to suppress, rather than foster, immune response. These connections make the interactions of the genes with testosterone an intriguing target of further exploration by immunologists, physiologists and drug researchers, Davis said.
But perhaps more intriguing, to many, is this: Why would evolution have designed a hormone that on the one hand enhances classic male secondary sexual characteristics, such as muscle strength, beard growth and risk-taking propensity, and on the other hand wussifies men’s immune systems?
The evolutionary selection pressure for male characteristics ranging from peacocks’ plumage to deer’s antlers to fighter pilots’ heroism is pretty obvious: Females, especially at mating-cycle peaks, prefer males with prodigious testosterone-driven traits.
Davis speculates that high testosterone may provide another, less obvious evolutionary advantage. “Ask yourself which sex is more likely to clash violently with, and do grievous bodily harm to, others of their own sex,” he said. Men are prone to suffer wounds from their competitive encounters, not to mention from their traditional roles in hunting, defending kin and hauling things around, increasing their infection risk.
While it’s good to have a decent immune response to pathogens, an overreaction to them — as occurs in highly virulent influenza strains, SARS, dengue and many other diseases — can be more damaging than the pathogen itself. Women, with their robust immune responses, are twice as susceptible as men to death from the systemic inflammatory overdrive called sepsis. So perhaps, Davis suggests, having a somewhat weakened (but not too weak) immune system can prove more lifesaving than life-threatening for a dominant male in the prime of life.
Other Stanford co-authors were Cornelia Dekker, MD, professor of pediatrics and medical director of the Stanford-LPCH Vaccine Program; Robert Tibshirani, PhD, professor of statistics and of health research and policy; and Noah Simon, PhD, a former postdoctoral scholar in Tibshirani’s group, now on the faculty of the University of Washington.
The study was funded by the Ellison Medical Foundation, Howard Hughes Medical Institute, and the National Institutes of Health (grants U19AIO57229 and U19AIO90019).
Information on Stanford’s Department of Microbiology and Immunology, which also supported this work, is available at Microbiology & Immunology | Microbiology & Immunology | Stanford Medicine.
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03-13-2020, 05:03 PM #15Banned- I said my goodbyes.
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03-13-2020, 05:12 PM #16Banned- I said my goodbyes.
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I dont give two shits and I been through 500 pandemics before this.
We all panic now because people are pussies today!
Excuse me while I down a busch light, smoke a cigarette and do give a damn!
Shooting the rest of my tren with a dirty needle when I get home!
Not here... No way corona could infect AR! Then I log on and here it is.
Its a beautiful day! Dont be a pussy!
Something is gonna kill you!
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03-13-2020, 05:48 PM #18Banned
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I sweat when I did tren . A classic symptom they are watching for is a fever. I think any sides that could pose a conflict, IF they test you, IF you are exposed and THINK you could be infected, is going to create a POSSIBLE problem.
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I'm not sure of any direct mechanisms of action where Tren is 'actually' directly effecting your lungs or ability to breath. it does not cause asthma, pulmonary edema, respiratory infections, pneumonia or any of that.
if you can't 'breath' while on high doses of tren, its NOT cause anything is wrong with your lungs. its because your muscles are so damn anabolic and full of blood and nutrients you simlply "feel" like you can't breath as well . but their isn't shit wrong with your lungs.
you'll be just fine . Tren it up
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03-13-2020, 06:34 PM #20
I was just talking to someone about this the other day - the idea that an overreaction of the immune system (such as during an allergic reaction) is what can be worse than the effects of the virus directly. Just like an allergen can make someone stop breathing because of the inflammatory response of the respiratory tract during an allergic reaction, a similar thing can theoretically happen from a virus.
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03-13-2020, 06:49 PM #21
My tren run was planned for may 1st anyway. It should workout fine for me, well im hoping all this scare goes away. My state just closed all the godamn school for three weeks so that puts me and mrs cuz in one hell of a bind. I do believe as GH stated red blood cells need oxygen and ive honestly breathed heavier on this test deca blast than while on tren, idk ive gained almost 15 lbs lf pure beef lol pretty fucking happy but breathing does suck. Just Food for thought. Theres still alot unknown about these drugs i feel , but i also think alot.
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03-13-2020, 08:22 PM #23Junior Member
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I am about 3 weeks from coming off my current cycle which is getting close to when the traditional flu season starts kicking in here and things start cooling down, which the virus seems to prefer.
I was wondering what my immune system was going to be like in the next few months as I come off cycle and have low testosterone . How is our immune system when we come off?
If it is low, will this maybe increase the chances of getting the virus, but reduce any chance of over immune responses?
I am not overly concerned, as like most of us in here am not the typical 80yo or sickly victim.
Any ideas?
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Every time I get sickly or close to, I drop all juice aside from a little test
It just seems real fucking stupid to pump shit that makes me go into coughing spells when I’m already coughing or feel congested
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03-13-2020, 09:56 PM #25
I went to my GP and confessed my use of gear. He did an exam and found that my Alveoli in my lungs where inflamed and he gave me shot of something in the arm and and rx for Cingular. Within a few days of stopping the tren , I stopped coughing and my breathing is 100% again. He also ordered a full CT scan and ultrasound of my lungs, liver, pancreas, kidneys and prostate and didn't find anything else wrong. Seems like Tren only causes labored breathing and a cough, which goes away after you stop use....BTW most DRs never even heard of Tren and there is very little mention of it in the PDR (Physicians Desk Reference) so in essence we are all pioneers in the research of Tren.
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03-14-2020, 12:36 AM #27
Probleme is, evolution didnt create tren. We did.
Im pretty sure a good testlevel do not degrade mans virus combat possibilities, but humans with breathing/lounges abnormalities are at a higher risk.
Tren for sure degrades my cardio. Test does not.
Nevertheless. My plan in Norway is now:
Gyms are said to be closed to 26 mars. Im 3 weeks into tren e cycle. I will shoot next week and the next week. Homegym training.
But, if the gyms will stil be closed after 26 mars, i will strongly consider to end my cycle, because 50% of my cycle pleasure is from looking good in the gym and impress others.
My walls in my homegym just give a rats ass on how i look.
Instead i fire things up in may/june and summer when the gym girls and their chicken asses once can be found in the public gyms.
Thats my plan, u must always have a plan guys
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03-14-2020, 12:39 AM #28
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03-14-2020, 08:06 AM #30
Im tellin you, i firmly believe this drug isn’t researched enough lol. I use it in small doses and im larger than most guys in the gym. I dont see where huge doses of the drug are needed unless last two weeks of contest prep...other than that small dose. Just how im gonna run my body others can do as they please
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03-14-2020, 08:17 AM #32BANNED
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keep in mind in the medical world its often times just the opposite of this .. People with cancer, aids, auto immune disorders and compromised immune systems are often times prescribed steroids .
if steroids were not 'healing drugs' (which they are and why they are used in medicine) ,, and they compromised your immune system , its unlikely sickly cancer and aids patients would be given steroids (like Primo and Var) when sick .
the last time I went in for surgery and was sick and injured and bed ridden for 6 months,, I purposely shot 250mg of deca per week.
heck, if I feel sick or a cold or flu coming on, I'll shoot more test, and definitely shoot primo if I have it on hand.
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03-14-2020, 08:22 AM #33BANNED
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back in the 90s , bodybuilders used to get their steroids from guys with immune system disorders. why? because steroids are prescribed to those people to help boost their immune system and keep them healthy..
the idea that steroids compromise your immune system or make you sick or give you the "test flu" , is a modern day phenomenon because of all the UGLs and dirty gear out there .. if you get sick from AAS usage, its because your stuff is junk or your allergic to the esters and BA etc. stuffed into your UGL gear.
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03-14-2020, 08:28 AM #34Banned- I said my goodbyes.
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this is old news . heck you don't even need to look very hard for clinical data
""Since 1984, we observed the effect of anabolic steroids as treatment for HIV/AIDS related wasting conditions and its effect on the CD4+ T-helper cell/CD8 suppressor cell counts of eight HIV/AIDS patients. We observed an apparent increase in lean body weight and an increase or stabilizing effect of the CD4 T-helper cells. We also observed an increase in appetite and an overall positive sense of well-being. Most patients were on 8- to 12-week cycles of anabolic steroids and patients were asked to keep personal journals regarding their scheduled use and dosages. We did not observe any side effects regarding the use of the anabolic steroids except for slight acne in two patients""
there are thousands and thousands of data out there regarding steroid use for immune compromised individuals .. what the heck you think steroids were invented for . boydybuilding,, lol, no. no one cares about bodybuilding. these drugs were not invented for that
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immune system compromised people and illnesses is what steroids were invented for and put into medical use to treat. you really think Bayer invented Primobolan for bodybuilding purposes . lol no. it was invented to help treat immune system compromised people, burn victims, and pre mature born infants.
this is a known fact. there is nothing to debate or no bullshit here. millions of clinical trials have been done
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some random shit
""This had enabled American doctors to be able to import Primobolan on special order.
Within the medical field, Methenolone is utilized to treat individuals suffering from conditions in which muscle wasting and severe weight loss is a symptom. Other uses include: an immunostimulant for individuals fighting infections, wasting conditions, an adjunct to countering the effects of prolonged corticosteroid therapy, and the treatment of osteoporosis as well as sarcopenia (the loss of muscle as correlated with aging). Primo, like Anavar , as proven to be so mild in its negative effects that it has also been utilized in children as well as infants in order to promote weight gain in premature born infants without any indications of ill effects or toxicity""
steroids used in the medical industry to help the immune system and help fight infections .. also , pre mature born infants (have virtually no immune system) given steroids to help them as well.
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the only reason guys today think steroids will harm your immune system, is cause there is too much UGL bath tub brewed bullshit floating around out there . of course that shit is toxic. might be fine for bodybuilding, but really you gonna inject that shit into a premature born infant or an old lady suffering from disease. no.. but 'real'' steroids work just fine for these people and always have.
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I go by reality
Reality = we "all" run questionable gear, it's UGL, in high doses, full of unknown shit
On top of that - someone starting a first or a cycle in general at this kinda time is just a bad idea
Prove me wrong - pump yourself full of gear, catch the flu then come out stronger than you were before
= Bull shit
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