ESTROGEN . will save your life !!

[GearHeaded]

ok ok .. you all know I've been a big advocate for estrogen and not using AI's etc. on this forum for a long time.

why not use this opportunity and crisis to promote my own political agenda like any good democrat would do.

^ that was a joke by the way. I don't care about the left wing or the right wing (its still the same damn bird).

anyhow, 70+% of corona virus death are males. ESTROGEN is not a female hormone. thats a bullshit lie and myth. estrogen is a people hormone thats needed for everyone. it does a ton of things in your body. including liver support and immune system support.


so as a good "politician" I'll use this opportunity to promote my agenda and tell you all . ditch your AI's now !!

[kelkel]

I'm working on boobs.

[The road]

I'm working on boobs.

Pictures?

[Octaneforce]

I got a knot under my nipple at the end of my last cycle, which i suspect is from my TEST being too low compared to my estro not dropping fast enough with it. Did aromasin for about 2 weeks. It helped the bump go away but man did i feel shitty. Strength and libido was definitely lower. I hadnt used an ai in like 2 years. Now im nursing the bump with daily nolva and its 90% gone. I really prefer raloxifine but its been tough to find lately.

[Chark]

GH,

Lots of gyno threads recently (always), would you be willing to explain your thoughts/strategies for gyno prevention and how effective prevention can be without the use of an AI? I’d be real interested, would be like an addendum to austinite’s stuff.

[kelkel]

Pictures?

Didn't say "my" boobs.

[The road]

Didn't say "my" boobs.

Pictures?

[Krb367]

I’m dead ^

[Saheim]

No shit? 70% are male?!?! That is a tad beyond coincidental. Who knows, maybe it is the estrogen. I rarely use any AI's, I'm not prone to sides and would rather my estrogen be a little too high than too low. So..... I'm less likely to get COVID19? But more likely to feel unappreciated and start crying? Hell, I'll make that trade

[AR's King Silabolin]

ok ok .. you all know I've been a big advocate for estrogen and not using AI's etc. on this forum for a long time.

why not use this opportunity and crisis to promote my own political agenda like any good democrat would do.

^ that was a joke by the way. I don't care about the left wing or the right wing (its still the same damn bird).

anyhow, 70+% of corona virus death are males. ESTROGEN is not a female hormone. thats a bullshit lie and myth. estrogen is a people hormone thats needed for everyone. it does a ton of things in your body. including liver support and immune system support.


so as a good "politician" I'll use this opportunity to promote my agenda and tell you all . ditch your AI's now !!

But high e2 makes it much easier to get high BP and water retention.
High BP is nonarguable the number 1 killer.
U really think the benefits of high e2 overpower this fact?
My take is borderhigh is the best and for most, no AI elevates more than this. Unless u have rare genes like Dexter Jackson, which make sure test remains test.
But thats is not a good thing. Ive red this will lead to serious problemes down the road.

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[The road]

But high e2 makes it much easier to get high BP and water retention.
High BP is nonarguable the number 1 killer.
U really think the benefits of high e2 overpower this fact?
My take is borderhigh is the best and for most, no AI elevates more than this. Unless u have rare genes like Dexter Jackson, which make sure test remains test.
But thats is not a good thing. Ive red this will lead to serious problemes down the road.

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Proof fat ass... Give some proof.

Obviously you just want to start an argument as you spent years preaching against AI...

Lay it down.

Give us the conclusive articles and not some faggot link to a trendy site for deliquent retards.

[AR's King Silabolin]

Proof fat ass... Give some proof.

Obviously you just want to start an argument as you spent years preaching against AI...

Lay it down.

Give us the conclusive articles and not some faggot link to a trendy site for deliquent retards.

Wheres the fat at, Shitbreath??

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[XnavyHMCS]

Jesus...!!! (No offense to you religious Bible bangers intended here.)

Did you ever think to clean your place up?

What a mess you live in. It's like a pigsty!

I love you guys that post pics from home and it looks like a disaster zone in the house...

Have a little PRIDE there big guy...

Furthermore, you are constantly breaking balls on us Americans on the forum.

Yet, what do we have in the background of the picture?

You got it; an AMERICAN flag...!!!

You know, you Europeans are just HUGGING the American's NUT SACK; hidden deep within your psyche, you guys just want to be US. (I can speak with a shit-load of authority on this subject because I am married to one and living in two EU nations for roughly the past 13 yrs)

You know, I have seen this shit before. Euro-trash talking shit about the most successful, powerful nation this world has ever witnessed, yet you guys will sport a t-shirt with the American flag on it...

I worked with a bunch of French Spec Ops guys (working directly with Commando Hubert and Commando Jaubert as liason) and these guys were the same... Breaking America's balls, yet ordering a bunch of t-shirts and gear from AMERICAN companies...

How many Norwegian flags or French flags can you find in some American's home? Not very many...

Take a break from the forum and clean your house.

[The road]

Wheres the fat at, Shitbreath??

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Lmfao the qustion is where is tbe veins and muscle

[The road]

Jesus...!!! (No offense to you religious Bible bangers intended here.)

Did you ever think to clean your place up?

What a mess you live in. It's like a pigsty!

I love you guys that post pics from home and it looks like a disaster zone in the house...

Have a little PRIDE there big guy...

Furthermore, you are constantly breaking balls on us Americans on the forum.

Yet, what do we have in the background of the picture?

You got it; an AMERICAN flag...!!!

You know, you Europeans are just HUGGING the American's NUT SACK; hidden deep within your psyche, you guys just want to be US. (I can speak with a shit-load of authority on this subject because I am married to one and living in two EU nations for roughly the past 13 yrs)

You know, I have seen this shit before. Euro-trash talking shit about the most successful, powerful nation this world has ever witnessed, yet you guys will sport a t-shirt with the American flag on it...

I worked with a bunch of French Spec Ops guys (working directly with Commando Hubert and Commando Jaubert as liason) and these guys were the same... Breaking America's balls, yet ordering a bunch of t-shirts and gear from AMERICAN companies...

How many Norwegian flags or French flags can you find in some American's home? Not very many...

Take a break from the forum and clean your house.

I am just liking this because sil is a fat pig.

[XnavyHMCS]

Lmfao the qustion is where is tbe veins and muscle

Ha Ha Ha!!!

LMFAO...!!!

Hey, they're there alright; just hidden underneath all that fat.

Well, when you live in a northern climate like he does, you gotta stay well insulated...

[AR's King Silabolin]

Jesus...!!! (No offense to you religious Bible bangers intended here.)

Did you ever think to clean your place up?

What a mess you live in. It's like a pigsty!

I love you guys that post pics from home and it looks like a disaster zone in the house...

Have a little PRIDE there big guy...

Furthermore, you are constantly breaking balls on us Americans on the forum.

Yet, what do we have in the background of the picture?

You got it; an AMERICAN flag...!!!

You know, you Europeans are just HUGGING the American's NUT SACK; hidden deep within your psyche, you guys just want to be US. (I can speak with a shit-load of authority on this subject because I am married to one and living in two EU nations for roughly the past 13 yrs)

You know, I have seen this shit before. Euro-trash talking shit about the most successful, powerful nation this world has ever witnessed, yet you guys will sport a t-shirt with the American flag on it...

I worked with a bunch of French Spec Ops guys (working directly with Commando Hubert and Commando Jaubert as liason) and these guys were the same... Breaking America's balls, yet ordering a bunch of t-shirts and gear from AMERICAN companies...

How many Norwegian flags or French flags can you find in some American's home? Not very many...

Take a break from the forum and clean your house.

Got myself a new mama there, guys. An easily offended little fellah. Bet my Mother has bigger arms than you bro, cause ur using so much time with your mopp, while we eat and lift.

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[AR's King Silabolin]

Lmfao the qustion is where is tbe veins and muscle

Stretch your wooden body like this yourself, Shitbreath, and ill bet all we se is a little spaghetti.

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[Fluidic Kimbo]

There's two things I've learnt from taking near-fatal doses of AAS for months at a time. The first is that I am immune to hair loss. The second I've learnt is that it would take take an extremely high blood concentration of oestrogen for me to grow breasts, as I haven't even gotten so much as a swollen nipple, even when I had T and Tren both up above a gram a week.

Oh and guys for what it's worth... with regard to the American flag in the back of Sil's photograph; American flags are so common in Europe and Asia that they are almost like a 'popular design'. Sort of like how all kinds of people have Buddha statues out their back garden.

Speaking personally as someone who attends a 10-day silent Buddhist meditation course every year, I can see how some Buddhists wouldn't be very keen on how mainstream people just see those statues as 'something different' to have out the back garden. I realise that the American flag is very meaningful to some people and I do respect that. Maybe you should take it as a compliment that it has become so ubiquitous, as there must be some admiration there.

[XnavyHMCS]

There's two things I've learnt from taking near-fatal doses of AAS for months at a time. The first is that I am immune to hair loss. The second I've learnt is that it would take take an extremely high blood concentration of oestrogen for me to grow breasts, as I haven't even gotten so much as a swollen nipple, even when I had T and Tren both up above a gram a week.

Oh and guys for what it's worth... with regard to the American flag in the back of Sil's photograph; American flags are so common in Europe and Asia that they are almost like a 'popular design'. Sort of like how all kinds of people have Buddha statues out their back garden.

Speaking personally as someone who attends a 10-day silent Buddhist meditation course every year, I can see how some Buddhists wouldn't be very keen on how mainstream people just see those statues as 'something different' to have out the back garden. I realise that the American flag is very meaningful to some people and I do respect that. Maybe you should take it as a compliment that it has become so ubiquitous, as there must be some admiration there.

Fluidic Cameron,

Compliment and the ol'hug of the scrotum was always felt by me... Especially when they were badmouthing the nation...

[The road]

Stretch your wooden body like this yourself, Shitbreath, and ill bet all we se is a little spaghetti.

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No my veins are much bigger than spaghetti fatass

[GearHeaded]

But high e2 makes it much easier to get high BP.

I don't believe that to be accurate.

look at 20+ year old females .. they have very high estrogen compared to the rest of the population yet generally have the lowest blood pressure and rare rare chance of having a negative cardiac event , while 20 year old men do suffer from high blood pressure and die of heart attacks.
if estrogen was the cause of high blood pressure, then this would be the opposite.

you know the women that do suffer with high blood pressure and cardic events ? those that are past menopause and their estrogen levels have plummeted .. hmm, interesting. so younger women that have high estrogen don't have blood pressure issues and no cardiac events ,, while men and women with low estrogen do.

another thought.. the reason TRT for olden men is healthy and beneficial rather then them going untreated and having low test levels , is to get the health benefits from the estrogen.
older men with low T levels are at greater health risks of heart disease . the Testosterone itself doesn't help that , its the test converting to estrogen that does.

estrogen plays a big role in nitric oxide production and relaxing the vascular system.. if anything , having low estrogen levels will raise blood pressure and cause heart the disease , not the other way around

and on a side note .. you know what else is a blood pressure issue . AI drugs like arimidex . look into it.. its listed as a warning and negative side effect for women being treated with breast cancer.

the combination of low estrogen and taking AI drugs is much bigger health risk

[AR's King Silabolin]

I don't believe that to be accurate.

look at 20+ year old females .. they have very high estrogen compared to the rest of the population yet generally have the lowest blood pressure and rare rare chance of having a negative cardiac event , while 20 year old men do suffer from high blood pressure and die of heart attacks.
if estrogen was the cause of high blood pressure, then this would be the opposite.

you know the women that do suffer with high blood pressure and cardic events ? those that are past menopause and their estrogen levels have plummeted .. hmm, interesting. so younger women that have high estrogen don't have blood pressure issues and no cardiac events ,, while men and women with low estrogen do.

another thought.. the reason TRT for olden men is healthy and beneficial rather then them going untreated and having low test levels , is to get the health benefits from the estrogen.
older men with low T levels are at greater health risks of heart disease . the Testosterone itself doesn't help that , its the test converting to estrogen that does.

estrogen plays a big role in nitric oxide production and relaxing the vascular system.. if anything , having low estrogen levels will raise blood pressure and cause heart the disease , not the other way around

and on a side note .. you know what else is a blood pressure issue . AI drugs like arimidex . look into it.. its listed as a warning and negative side effect for women being treated with breast cancer.

the combination of low estrogen and taking AI drugs is much bigger health risk

Yes, estrogen is healthy for arteries, no and heart. But in men it also causes water retention.
The hormones progesterone and estrogen play a significant role in fluid retention. When estrogen levels are elevated, women tend to retain more water than usual. This is why bloating is common in the days leading up to a woman's menstrual cycle - more estrogen means more water retention.
I guess its even worse for men.
And waterretention causes high BP. Its non arguable.
I guess it can be modified by a crazy nazi low salt high potassium diett, but most are not nazies, so that suggestion is kind of foulplay.
Last, look man. By far u are one of the most knowledgeable members ever and u have helped me alot.
And i like your takes outside the box, but this one is very far from the box.

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[SilverBack G's]

Isnt to much estrogen in a male cause aromatzation

[The road]

Yes, estrogen is healthy for arteries, no and heart. But in men it also causes water retention.
The hormones progesterone and estrogen play a significant role in fluid retention. When estrogen levels are elevated, women tend to retain more water than usual. This is why bloating is common in the days leading up to a woman's menstrual cycle - more estrogen means more water retention.
I guess its even worse for men.
And waterretention causes high BP. Its non arguable.
I guess it can be modified by a crazy nazi low salt high potassium diett, but most are not nazies, so that suggestion is kind of foulplay.
Last, look man. By far u are one of the most knowledgeable members ever and u have helped me alot.
And i like your takes outside the box, but this one is very far from the box.

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It doesnt cause water retention in some of us fat boy.
It also is easily arguable.

Look at this way....
According to your science i should be dead.
I have shot 6 g's of gear with no AI. No excessive bloating. No nothing.

I did however put on more lean mass in three years than you did in 20.

Sil stay away from science. It doesn't suit you.

[AR's King Silabolin]

It doesnt cause water retention in some of us fat boy.
It also is easily arguable.

Look at this way....
According to your science i should be dead.
I have shot 6 g's of gear with no AI. No excessive bloating. No nothing.

I did however put on more lean mass in three years than you did in 20.

Sil stay away from science. It doesn't suit you.

We are trying to have a serious discussion here. Its far above your head. Why dont u climb back up in those trees and leave science for those who got brains for it.

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[The road]

We are trying to have a serious discussion here. Its far above your head. Why dont u climb back up in those trees and leave science for those who got brains for it.

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I dont know shit but I know 4 times as much as you. It shows

[< <Samson> >]

It also causes great health in a prostate the size of a grapefruit

[GearHeaded]

Yes, estrogen is healthy for arteries, no and heart. But in men it also causes water retention.
The hormones progesterone and estrogen play a significant role in fluid retention. When estrogen levels are elevated, women tend to retain more water than usual. This is why bloating is common in the days leading up to a woman's menstrual cycle - more estrogen means more water retention.
I guess its even worse for men.
And waterretention causes high BP. Its non arguable.
I guess it can be modified by a crazy nazi low salt high potassium diett, but most are not nazies, so that suggestion is kind of foulplay.
Last, look man. By far u are one of the most knowledgeable members ever and u have helped me alot.
And i like your takes outside the box, but this one is very far from the box.

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water retention can be a dangerous health issue.. I agree. I know of a couple Pro bodybuilders who ended up in the hospital from such severe water retention they had cardiac edema taking place. not good .. but guess what , this happened post contest right after a show when their estrogen was zero. so how did they get such severe water retention ? it surely wasn't from elevated estrogen.

there is much more mechanisms going on that cause water retention then estrogen.. estrogen plays very little role in this. but I do AGREE with you that it 'can' play somewhat of a role in some people. .
but often times guys mistake that water retention or elevated blood pressure they get when running certain AAS are from estrogen. but its not. its from the other mechanisms of actions by which the AAS themselves work. not the secondary by product of estrogen.

lets take Deca for example . if you ran a deca only cycle with no test , your estrogen levels would drop down big time (theres no natty or exogenous test to aromatize). this has been proven in medical studies.
BUT , your still likely going to get some water retention and elevation in blood pressure. and again its not from estrogen, cause there is none. its from the deca itself and how it works to 'volumize' your blood, cause inter cellular water retention, up regulate nitrogen retention, etc..
the water retention and elevated blood pressure are generally from the AAS itself, not the estrogen.


but I do agree, in some guys that are estrogen sensitive the estrogen can make you hold some water.. same with some females. but this is not universal across the board.

I've had very good success prepping clients for shows NOT using any anti estrogens and they got plenty dry and hard and held no water.
then I've seen other guys abuse AI's going into a contest, crash their estrogen, and then not be able to carb load and fill out on show day (because estrogen unregulates glucose metabolism and is needed to fill out glycogen stores)

[The road]

It also causes great health in a prostate the size of a grapefruit

It is still no more proven to cause than test itself or lack thereof.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1079949/

Everything is suspected not much is proven.

[GearHeaded]

Isnt to much estrogen in a male cause aromatzation

aromatization is the way males produce estrogen. this is a good thing, not a bad thing . its an evolutionary and biological necessity.
estrogen is the hormone that controls the male sex drive (not testosterone ). if your estrogen is zero your sex drive and sexual ability will also be zero..
the aromatase enzyme is mainly contained within body fat. hmmm wonder why. well lets connect the dots here.

mammal species should not be procreating during times of great famine and starvation. if they can't feed themselves they can't feed their offspring . so they shouldn't be mating then.. sex drive should go to zero. ok well if your starving to death and have no body fat then your going to have very little aromatase enzyme and thus no estrogen and thus no sex drive, and there will be no mating...

but during times of plenty with plenty of food your holding onto body fat and producing plenty of estrogen and have a full functioning sex drive. thus procreation takes place. interesting how the creation has worked these things out.

[GearHeaded]

It also causes great health in a prostate the size of a grapefruit

only time I've had prostate issues is when I'm running a high amount of androgen and dht levels are high .. I've never had an issue during an estrogen phase when my e2 levels are through the roof

[Chark]

aromatization is the way males produce estrogen. this is a good thing, not a bad thing . its an evolutionary and biological necessity.
estrogen is the hormone that controls the male sex drive (not testosterone ). if your estrogen is zero your sex drive and sexual ability will also be zero..
the aromatase enzyme is mainly contained within body fat. hmmm wonder why. well lets connect the dots here.

mammal species should not be procreating during times of great famine and starvation. if they can't feed themselves they can't feed their offspring . so they shouldn't be mating then.. sex drive should go to zero. ok well if your starving to death and have no body fat then your going to have very little aromatase enzyme and thus no estrogen and thus no sex drive, and there will be no mating...

but during times of plenty with plenty of food your holding onto body fat and producing plenty of estrogen and have a full functioning sex drive. thus procreation takes place. interesting how the creation has worked these things out.

That makes sense...Interesting! Why does having more aromatase enzyme (like how it’s advised you shouldn’t cycle at high body-fat) lead to increased estrogenic issues? Wouldn’t the amount of test available to aromatize in the first place serve as a bottleneck to how much estrogen aromatizes? Is this essentially the same but other end of the spectrum with how AIs work? In that it isn’t aromatization isn’t completely inhibited but by reducing the amount of enzymes we see less estrogen.

[GearHeaded]

That makes sense...Interesting! Why does having more aromatase enzyme (like how it’s advised you shouldn’t cycle at high body-fat) lead to increased estrogenic issues? Wouldn’t the amount of test available to aromatize in the first place serve as a bottleneck to how much estrogen aromatizes? Is this essentially the same but other end of the spectrum with how AIs work? In that it isn’t aromatization isn’t completely inhibited but by reducing the amount of enzymes we see less estrogen.

best way to think about it is that body fat is the 'warehouse capacity',, aromatase enzyme doesn't just magically exist . it has to be produced and upregulated by proteins and other things in the body. body fat helps to store these things because its actually a process to get it done. producing more aromatase enzyme and storing it in body fat , to eventually convert test into estrogen is a survival mechanism thing. its what the body wants and needs to do.

testosterone is the 'raw material' .. the aromatase enzymes are the workers in the factory to get things done. but as mentioned above , they are not just magically there. they have to be produced and there able to work. then estrogen is the 'final product' sort of speak

having higher body fat levels just means you have more 'warehouse' and factory space for your workers.. you still need the 'raw material' and the workers though.

idk .. maybe a totally crappy analogy. my brain isn't working right now

on a side note -- the idea that you shouldn't run a cycle cause you have high body fat levels ,, I think is total bullshit. most AAS don't even aromatize to begin with. just need to set your cycle up properly

[Chark]

best way to think about it is that body fat is the 'warehouse capacity',, aromatase enzyme doesn't just magically exist . it has to be produced and upregulated by proteins and other things in the body. body fat helps to store these things because its actually a process to get it done. producing more aromatase enzyme and storing it in body fat , to eventually convert test into estrogen is a survival mechanism thing. its what the body wants and needs to do.

testosterone is the 'raw material' .. the aromatase enzymes are the workers in the factory to get things done. but as mentioned above , they are not just magically there. they have to be produced and there able to work. then estrogen is the 'final product' sort of speak

having higher body fat levels just means you have more 'warehouse' and factory space for your workers.. you still need the 'raw material' and the workers though.

idk .. maybe a totally crappy analogy. my brain isn't working right now

on a side note -- the idea that you shouldn't run a cycle cause you have high body fat levels ,, I think is total bullshit. most AAS don't even aromatize to begin with. just need to set your cycle up properly

Not crappy at all, that’s a memorable way to illustrate it! Thank you!

Re: side note, for sure. I used the wrong words. “advised shouldn’t cycle” should be advised caution with aromatizing compounds like test and dbol

[i_SLAM_cougars]

I’m starting to see 20mg of Dbol or 100mg of TNE pre workout as essential to our survival as a species

[Lee_1978]

Jesus...!!! (No offense to you religious Bible bangers intended here.)

Did you ever think to clean your place up?

What a mess you live in. It's like a pigsty!

I love you guys that post pics from home and it looks like a disaster zone in the house...

Have a little PRIDE there big guy...

Furthermore, you are constantly breaking balls on us Americans on the forum.

Yet, what do we have in the background of the picture?

You got it; an AMERICAN flag...!!!

You know, you Europeans are just HUGGING the American's NUT SACK; hidden deep within your psyche, you guys just want to be US. (I can speak with a shit-load of authority on this subject because I am married to one and living in two EU nations for roughly the past 13 yrs)

You know, I have seen this shit before. Euro-trash talking shit about the most successful, powerful nation this world has ever witnessed, yet you guys will sport a t-shirt with the American flag on it...

I worked with a bunch of French Spec Ops guys (working directly with Commando Hubert and Commando Jaubert as liason) and these guys were the same... Breaking America's balls, yet ordering a bunch of t-shirts and gear from AMERICAN companies...

How many Norwegian flags or French flags can you find in some American's home? Not very many...

Take a break from the forum and clean your house.

I'm British and more than happy with it!

[Lee_1978]

ok ok .. you all know I've been a big advocate for estrogen and not using AI's etc. on this forum for a long time.

why not use this opportunity and crisis to promote my own political agenda like any good democrat would do.

^ that was a joke by the way. I don't care about the left wing or the right wing (its still the same damn bird).

anyhow, 70+% of corona virus death are males. ESTROGEN is not a female hormone. thats a bullshit lie and myth. estrogen is a people hormone thats needed for everyone. it does a ton of things in your body. including liver support and immune system support.


so as a good "politician" I'll use this opportunity to promote my agenda and tell you all . ditch your AI's now !!

Women have two copies of the X chromosome which offers their immune system additional protection and the ability for their bodies to counter a more aggressive attack on viruses. It's believed this is the predominate reason behind the disparity.

[cybervtec]

aromatization is the way males produce estrogen. this is a good thing, not a bad thing . its an evolutionary and biological necessity.
estrogen is the hormone that controls the male sex drive (not testosterone ). if your estrogen is zero your sex drive and sexual ability will also be zero..
the aromatase enzyme is mainly contained within body fat. hmmm wonder why. well lets connect the dots here.

mammal species should not be procreating during times of great famine and starvation. if they can't feed themselves they can't feed their offspring . so they shouldn't be mating then.. sex drive should go to zero. ok well if your starving to death and have no body fat then your going to have very little aromatase enzyme and thus no estrogen and thus no sex drive, and there will be no mating...

but during times of plenty with plenty of food your holding onto body fat and producing plenty of estrogen and have a full functioning sex drive. thus procreation takes place. interesting how the creation has worked these things out.

Gearheaded,

so if you want to design a cycle to boost up your sex drive how do you do?

I said that because, in a few cycles you can put a lot of Muscle mass, but your libido or sex drive, went down.

So in your oppinion, the best is to stay away from masteron , proviron , and all that can kill the estrogen?

You are total against test only cycle. seeing your point of view, the test only is the best for libido. Is that correct.

So deca is also bad for sex drive, because you said that kill estrogen. But the prolactin is raised. Are you sure, the estrogen are the only responsible for the sex drive.

Sorry for all this questions. But there is a lot of point of views.

[Juced_porkchop]

Balance is key IMO sure don;t crash it, but don;t let it go sky high either.