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    Getsomehate is offline Associate Member
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    New cycle starting this week

    Hey fam ,
    It’s my 4th cycle and going to try Test cyp 500mg npp 200mg .
    I have Adex , nolva, proviron , clomid, caber on hand just in case , did bloods and heart triplex for my casual pre cycle check .
    I wanted to ask you :
    1)are 200mg of npp enough for me to have to use Adex or caber ?? (I know it’s system related for each of us , just talking bout % )
    2) will I be safe from estro if I don’t use ??? ( my previous cycles I had 0 estro problems running higher doses of test with mostly anabolics like var or anadrol ) .
    3) can proviron replace masteron in this cycle ? Talking about the protection part of it , libido, gyno etc

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    I don’t think you’ll need anything for those doses. Unless you are one of the few unlucky ones. Might want to consider waiting though as high testosterone has been shown to increase proteins and receptors in the lungs that absorb covid-19. Watch Jerry Brainum on YouTube, he just put out a video about this. I did my first shot of my cycle a couple of days ago but I’m holding off now until we get the vaccine or I can check if I’m already immunized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getsomehate View Post
    Hey fam ,
    It’s my 4th cycle and going to try Test cyp 500mg npp 200mg .
    I have Adex , nolva, proviron , clomid, caber on hand just in case , did bloods and heart triplex for my casual pre cycle check .
    I wanted to ask you :
    1)are 200mg of npp enough for me to have to use Adex or caber ?? (I know it’s system related for each of us , just talking bout % )
    2) will I be safe from estro if I don’t use ??? ( my previous cycles I had 0 estro problems running higher doses of test with mostly anabolics like var or anadrol ) .
    3) can proviron replace masteron in this cycle ? Talking about the protection part of it , libido, gyno etc
    1) You don't need either. You can add 300mg of Mast if you wanted though

    2) If you didn't have estrogen problems with 500mg of Test with no AI then I wouldn't be worried. Between Mast and Tamoxifen at 10mg/day (if needed) you can combat concerns without harsh drugs like AI or DA's

    3) I would use Mast not Prov. You aren't going to have issues with 200mg NPP anyways.

    Assuming your NPP is dosed at 100 or 150mg/mL I would adjust your dose based on injections. For example if you did 0.3mL/day at 150mg/mL then it's 315mg/week. To get 200mg in a week you'll be dealing with fractions of volume .

    Alternatively just use Deca at 0.5mL twice a week along side your test injections. The deca is going to be dosed between 200-300mg/mL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I don’t think you’ll need anything for those doses. Unless you are one of the few unlucky ones. Might want to consider waiting though as high testosterone has been shown to increase proteins and receptors in the lungs that absorb covid-19. Watch Jerry Brainum on YouTube, he just put out a video about this. I did my first shot of my cycle a couple of days ago but I’m holding off now until we get the vaccine or I can check if I’m already immunized.
    Is this Approved by doctors or anything ? Sounds quite strange .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    1) You don't need either. You can add 300mg of Mast if you wanted though

    2) If you didn't have estrogen problems with 500mg of Test with no AI then I wouldn't be worried. Between Mast and Tamoxifen at 10mg/day (if needed) you can combat concerns without harsh drugs like AI or DA's

    3) I would use Mast not Prov. You aren't going to have issues with 200mg NPP anyways.

    Assuming your NPP is dosed at 100 or 150mg/mL I would adjust your dose based on injections. For example if you did 0.3mL/day at 150mg/mL then it's 315mg/week. To get 200mg in a week you'll be dealing with fractions of volume .

    Alternatively just use Deca at 0.5mL twice a week along side your test injections. The deca is going to be dosed between 200-300mg/mL.
    My npp dose at 100mg/mL and was thinking of 2 injections Monday thursday or whatever just seperate them every 3 days, but what Monsterone said worried me, not because i dont give a single fuck about Covid-19, its just the wrong time to enter hospitals these days.

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    So I read multiple articles claiming what monster one said , but they also claimed that female sex hormone plays a vital part on the immune system while testosterone inhibits it .
    But during a cycle considering you don’t use Ai’s and shit , your estro are also high , so really don’t know what to believe .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getsomehate View Post
    My npp dose at 100mg/mL and was thinking of 2 injections Monday thursday or whatever just seperate them every 3 days, but what Monsterone said worried me, not because i dont give a single fuck about Covid-19, its just the wrong time to enter hospitals these days.
    NPP should be injected EOD or Every Day, phenylprop is not a long ester that can be injected twice a week like Test Cyp.

    You'd be injecting 0.3mL ED or 0.6 EOD. If you don't wanna pin that often then go with Deca if you are on TRT. If you aren't on TRT and don't wanna inject that frequently then you'd be looking at alternatives compounds in my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    NPP should be injected EOD or Every Day, phenylprop is not a long ester that can be injected twice a week like Test Cyp.

    You'd be injecting 0.3mL ED or 0.6 EOD. If you don't wanna pin that often then go with Deca if you are on TRT. If you aren't on TRT and don't wanna inject that frequently then you'd be looking at alternatives compounds in my opinion
    No I don’t mind pinning EOD , I ll go with 0.3 , sounds convenient and it’s my first time on this substance , wanna see how I respond.
    Thanx windex

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