low test stack?

[DustMan]

Good afternoon everyone

Whenever I'm reading peoples stacks I see people doing 200mg Test a week up towards 500mg test a week (and obviously more), but whenever I see someone doing Test + another compound, I never see people using less than 400mg Test in the stack.

Why do I rarely see people running 200mg test with 200mg Deca or 200mg test with 300mg Tren?

Is there a reason why someone couldn't for example, run a stack like this:
200mg Test E per week
200mg Deca per week
250mg Tren per week
200mg EQ per week

Assuming that they have run each of these compounds alone with test to see the side effects and feel comfortable with each compound... these are pretty low individual values for each compound, you could skirt a lot of side effects this way I'm assuming, except maybe the Deca/Tren ones since they are both 19nor's?

Would taking only 200mg in this stack be bad? Why is that?

[magic32]

It wouldn't be bad, but it wouldn't be effective.

200 mg/EW of exogenous Test closely approximates what your body naturally produces.

This answers your question - it makes no sense to run a cycle with normal amounts of Test, of the aspiration is bodybuilding muscle development.

Also, you should NOT run the other cited compounds by themselves to ascertain their respective side effects. Instead, one runs Test only at an effective dosage, like your cited 500 mg/EW and upwards. Then, after becoming familiar with your response to it, stack subsequent compounds WITH it. Thus, any sides can be largely attributed to the new compound, not the Test, i.e., base compound.

[Iron Frenchie]

It wouldn't be bad, but it wouldn't be effective.

200 mg/EW of exogenous Test closely approximates what your body naturally produces.

This answers your question - it makes no sense to run a cycle with normal amounts of Test, of the aspiration is bodybuilding muscle development.

Also, you should NOT run the other cited compounds by themselves to ascertain their respective side effects. Instead, one runs Test only at an effective dosage, like your cited 500 mg/EW and upwards. Then, after becoming familiar with your response to it, stack subsequent compounds WITH it. Thus, any sides can be largely attributed to the new compound, not the Test, i.e., base compound.

You have all those post and been here since 2005. You must be knowledgeable right? I’d love to hear why it makes no sense to run normal (200mg isn’t normal) amounts of test with other anabolics?

[Gallowmere]

It wouldn't be bad, but it wouldn't be effective.

200 mg/EW of exogenous Test closely approximates what your body naturally produces.

This answers your question - it makes no sense to run a cycle with normal amounts of Test, of the aspiration is bodybuilding muscle development.

Also, you should NOT run the other cited compounds by themselves to ascertain their respective side effects. Instead, one runs Test only at an effective dosage, like your cited 500 mg/EW and upwards. Then, after becoming familiar with your response to it, stack subsequent compounds WITH it. Thus, any sides can be largely attributed to the new compound, not the Test, i.e., base compound.

200mg/week of Enanthate or Cypionate (due to ester weight) is damn near double what the average healthy, post-pubertal male produces.
A 100% increase is not “closely approximate” by any natural biological metrics. Double the amount of almost any other hormone in the body without specifically compensating for it, and let me know how that goes.
Testosterone is so damned forgiving of fuck ups that it’s really easy to get this stuff twisted. There’s nearly nothing else in the body that you could shove in at 10x the normal rate for months on end and not end up either severely fucked up, or dead.

[Charlie67]

I'm currently running, Test 200wk, Tren Ace 300/wk, Mast 500/wk, and Primo 600/wk.... I'm feeling rather good on such a low dose of Test.

Best,
C-

[Gallowmere]

I'm currently running, Test 200wk, Tren Ace 300/wk, Mast 500/wk, and Primo 600/wk.... I'm feeling rather good on such a low dose of Test.

Best,
C-

Not too far from what I’m currently cutting on. 300 Test/100 Deca/350 Tren/300 Mast.
I still need to get around to giving Primo a chance on my next run. Will probably be something light like 200 Test/100 Deca (this always stays for HRT)/500-600 Primo.

[CR500]

I was hoping to run lower doses of Test on my upcoming cycle while letting other types of gear to do more of the work. I had read that running up to approx 200mg pw increases collagen synthesis, while going much over this starts to reduce collagen synthesis which might make my older tendone/ligaments/cartilage lose strength supposedly? Some other substances are supposed to increase collagen synthesis to varying degrees so i was hoping to rely more on these for most gains. Im not sure if my thinking is flawed?

[Capebuffalo]

You’ve run 1 cycle 9 yrs ago. Start with 500mg of test. If you are training and eating right that’s all you need.

[Capebuffalo]

I was hoping to run lower doses of Test on my upcoming cycle while letting other types of gear to do more of the work. I had read that running up to approx 200mg pw increases collagen synthesis, while going much over this starts to reduce collagen synthesis which might make my older tendone/ligaments/cartilage lose strength supposedly? Some other substances are supposed to increase collagen synthesis to varying degrees so i was hoping to rely more on these for most gains. Im not sure if my thinking is flawed?

Start your own thread and you will get more feed back and not take away from ops thread.