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    E2 still crashed 4 weeks after stopping?

    Was on .25 mg of adex Ed and then I stopped 4 weeks ago as my e2 was at 12!

    I’m on Ed injections 35 mg Ed of prop!

    My e2 is still low when will it rebound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    Was on .25 mg of adex Ed and then I stopped 4 weeks ago as my e2 was at 12!

    I’m on Ed injections 35 mg Ed of prop!

    My e2 is still low when will it rebound?
    Estrogen level generally follows testosterone levels in the absence of an aromatase inhibitor.

    Have you pulled a sensitive E2 assay since the initial test? .25mg is a LOT of a.i. especially for 35mg of prop daily. It borders on a ridiculous amount of a.i. Not hacking, just pointing out guys on WAY higher T doses use a lot less or none at all.

    Why such a low dosage of test prop?
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    Trt’

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    Estrogen level generally follows testosterone levels in the absence of an aromatase inhibitor.

    Have you pulled a sensitive E2 assay since the initial test? .25mg is a LOT of a.i. especially for 35mg of prop daily. It borders on a ridiculous amount of a.i. Not hacking, just pointing out guys on WAY higher T doses use a lot less or none at all.

    Why such a low dosage of test prop?
    I’m on trt didn’t wanna use ai switch to Ed injections prop!

    No I have not pulled a test because I still feel the same my emotions are gone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    I’m on trt didn’t wanna use ai switch to Ed injections prop!

    No I have not pulled a test because I still feel the same my emotions are gone!
    It's best to work with lab values. Going by feel is difficult, especially when your hormones are bouncing around.

    I'm going to move your post to the TRT area, but next time let the a.i. usage be determined by labwork. I think you'll be happier.
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    I did get bloods

    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    It's best to work with lab values. Going by feel is difficult, especially when your hormones are bouncing around.

    I'm going to move your post to the TRT area, but next time let the a.i. usage be determined by labwork. I think you'll be happier.
    What I mean is I haven’t got bloods since stopping ai because whats their left to adjust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    What I mean is I haven’t got bloods since stopping ai because whats their left to adjust.
    Well, you would know exactly what our E2 is instead of going by feel. You've crashed your E2 with the heavy a.i. dosage; you're not likely to feel good. If you stopped the a.i 4 weeks ago, your E2 has likely risen at least a little. It could be something else that is the issue and your mistakenly attributed it to a low E2 level.

    Granted, your E2 could definitely still be low, but without lab values you don't know. Do you use HCG ?
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    I'm curious, why Prop for TRT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I'm curious, why Prop for TRT?
    I was wondering this myself, but apparently it’s still extremely common in a lot of Europe, for some reason.

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    Less estrogen!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    I was wondering this myself, but apparently it’s still extremely common in a lot of Europe, for some reason.
    Prop has less e2 and Ed injections makes it harder to detect on drug test

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    Prop has less e2 and Ed injections makes it harder to detect on drug test
    I am not sure I agree with either of these statements.

    Drug tests often are a Testosterone :Epitestosterone ratio.
    This has nothing to do with the ester of test you are using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    Was on .25 mg of adex Ed and then I stopped 4 weeks ago as my e2 was at 12!

    I’m on Ed injections 35 mg Ed of prop!

    My e2 is still low when will it rebound?
    My personal experience with AIs/no AIs is that E2 is a fickle hormone to measure. It seems to go up and down on it's own with no apparent reason. My advice to guys is to give up the AIs completely unless your E2 is in the stratosphere or you have a history of gyno. Let E2 fluctuate on it's own and don't fret about it.
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