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Hello
so I'm planning to run this as my 2nd cycle.
(i did a test only cycle back in January but things didn't go as planned because of the pandemic..)
WK1-6 sust 250mg EOD
WK1 dbol 20mg ED, WK2 dbol 30mg ED, WK3 40mg ED, WK4-6 dbol 50mg ED
WK7-12 durabolin (nandrolone phenylproprionate) 100mg EOD
WK7-12 winstrol 50mg EOD
WK13-14 clenbuterol (2-7 tabs a day)
hcg throughout the whole cycle
pct
nolvadex + clomid
Thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by bluelife93
6 weeks of sustanon and then 5 weeks of NPP with no test?
Dbol then to winny and an oral for 12 weeks?
This for a “second” cycle?
Curious on your stats and goals, but not in love with any of this...
Less is more and KISS
Waaaay too convoluted and expansive for a 2nd cycle.
Dbol is a kickstarting compound for a long ester (Test) bulking cycle, (primarily that is, as seasoned vets use it intermittently for various advanced purposes). Conversely, Clen and Winny are cutting cycle compounds. It doesn't look like you're clear on your goal. Identify your objective, choose one for optimal results, then select your compounds [and dieting protocol] accordingly. HCG is unnecessary here, and should be administered post-cycle PRN (as needed)...if needed, then later during future cycles ONLY if warranted.
Also, why so much so fast? A traditional 2nd cycle simply adds a single additional compound to Test, which is the vastly preferred inaugural cycle, i.e., Test-only. This methodology produces a two-pronged effect: primarily, and development-wise, it helps you to optimally assess and best understand how your body responds to the new compound (majorly, minorly, or not much at all) for reference during future cycles; and secondarily, it permits you to optimally assess any negative side effects incurred, again for posterity, regarding what to expect and/or whether to include it at all.
A cycle as expansive as the one you've proposed, is a virtual Pandora's Box of misadventures.
Keep first things first, and observe the tested and proven principles. There will presumably be plenty of time for more expansive cocktails/stacks in the future as experience grows. I'm not apt to paraphrase deceased, nihilistic, East German philosophers, but it seems apropos here:
“He who would learn to fly one day, must first learn to stand and walk...one cannot fly into flying.”
- Nietzsche
Best to you.
Just want to add on to what SampsonandDelilah said:
Don't do steroids without testosterone, low T sucks, no one will recommend you a cycle without T unless you're a girl.
Why does everybody try to make cycles that are so damn complicated?
First what are your goals? What are you hoping to accomplish from this cycle? How long did you get into your "first" cycle before you had to abort? Are you prepared this time? If you didn't finish it, then I'd say this is actually your 1st one. Or we could call it version 1.5.
Awful cycle. Back to the drawing board.
From what I've seen on here and at the gym. A lot of these guys are people who haven't been lifting very long and think they can just buy muscles. And then they'll just google cycle plans and throw away the ones that don't have a big enough mix of steroids in them. And a year after their cycle, they're not even working out anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by slfmade