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08-23-2020, 02:58 AM #1Registered User
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First time cycle, experiencing gyno.
Hello everyone! I'll start by introducing myself. Im a 31 y/o male, I weigh 90kg/200 pounds, I'm 187cm/ 6ft1⅝inch, my bodyfat is 17%. I've been training for about 12 years with a couple of breaks here and there. My lifts are bench 150kg/330 pounds, squat 210kg/460 pounds and deadlift 240kg/530 pounds.
I have recently started my first ever cycle! I realise I will get alot of shit for not doing all the proper research beforehand, and I'm ok with that because I feel like a god damn idiot about it too.
Anyway I'm doing a 10 week cycle with 500testo e and 200tren e / week. Injections of 250/100 every monday and thursday. I have been on for 14 days now and about 5 days ago I noticed one of my nipples had gotten a little puffy and since then it has been a little bit sensitive from time to time.
If I push and really dig in under my nipple I can feel a small ammount of tissue forming. It's not visible to anyone else, I showed it to my friend and he told me not to worry but its noticable to me and will most likely get worse if I dont act on it real fast.
The only thing I have access to immediatly is nolvadex . I can however get my hands on anything else I might need. My question really is this:
What do I need to get, and how should I dose it and for how long? Again, I know this is my responsibility to figure out beforehand and I am an idiot. But please, im begging, help me figure this out!
Thanks in advance for any replies!
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Run the nolvadex at 20mg for a week, then drop it to 10mg for a week or more depending on how the lump feels
Tren E is the first compound that got my gyno to sprout - ever since, it’s been a on/off battle until I got them removed - and, after they healed I jumped on other gear & they still started trying to grow back - I pulled the gear back & ran more nolvadex. . . So far so good. . . I hate having bitch tits
GL
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08-23-2020, 06:46 AM #3Associate Member
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Is it E2 ? Is it Prolactin ?Is it fat tissue forming cause of hormonal imbalance ? Nobody knows when on first cycle you are using one of the heaviest compounds along with test , thats why you go pure test as a beginner to see how your body reacts , anyway.
I dont have experience with Tren E but the dose is relatively Low and if you control your Estrogens your prolactin will most likely be on point .
The only way to know is to get bloods done because here how it goes , Prolactin decrease androgen receptors and increase estrogen and progesterone receptors which can lead to Gyno , High E2 aside from oily skin , high BP , water retention , can also cause Gyno .
Controlling E2 is key and you going to Need an AI for this like arimidex or aromasin dosed at respectively at 0.5 x2 week or 0.25 x4 week and aromasin 12.5 e2d or e3d , if its from Prolactin you ll need a dopamin antagonist like Dostinex dosed half a pill x2 week . Keep in mind all these are very heavy drugs not used for bodybuilding but to counter sides .
Nolvadex competes with estrogen to bind to estrogen receptors in breast cells and will help you to get rid of Gyno at doses of 20mg/day maybe even 10mg , but its a bandaid fix if you dont fix High e2 or prolactin as gyno will come back.
I dont wanna be a douchebag but if your first and second cycle was Test only you would know if you aromatise heavily to E2 and if you are prone to Gyno or High BP or water retention when ur E2 are high , now you dont know the cause because you are using test along with a Tren ( i ve used tren once on my 6th cycle and 150mg Ace) .
P.S did you know tren E stays for far too long on your system and many people who use tren E are already BnC for life cuz its shit hard to get back to normal after Tren right?
P.S 2 . Nice liftsLast edited by Getsomehate; 08-23-2020 at 06:49 AM.
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One just doesn't drop tren . . . . Lol
I was gonna say that too - in some tren e does weird shit
Gyno = a painful like soft at 1st growth, usually about the size of a bean right under the nipple
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For me it was always the Tren E - that’s where that shit sprouted
Totally - don’t fuck with em
They are official when you press your chest against something & feel a pain
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