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If you're just gonna say "ectos, mesos, endos don't exist" save it for somewhere else.
For those of you like me, who have lifted and eaten like joey chestnut for years and are still skinny, despite getting strong af, have you done some cycles, and what were the results? I feel like we are clearly insensitive to Test, so my guess is a cycle for us wouldn't do nearly as much as one for someone who gains muscle easily. Is that what happened with you?
If you're not gaining weight, you're not eating enough. It's that simple. Everybody's body chemistry is different and people have different metabolisms. If 3000 calories a day isn't enough to put on weight, eat 3500. If that's not enough keep eating more until you gain weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGypsyKing
The cold fact is, you're not going to benefit much from steroids if you can't figure out how to eat enough food.
I'll ask you a rhetorical question. Do you have a meal plan with weighted portions and scheduled times to eat? If not, then the fvuk would you possibly know if you're eating like Joey Chestnut? People who are fat usually think they eat way less than they actually do and people who are skinny think they eat way more than they actually do.
I don't mean to be a dick, but if you can't gain weight naturally, doing gear will just put a few pounds of water weight on you and maybe some modest gains that you'll give up very shortly after your cycle ends.
Regardless if ecto/endo/meso exists, you need to eat enough for YOUR body makeup.
If you truly don’t want to continue at the rate you’re going, you’re going to have to take a cold hard look in the mirror and figure out what it is you’re not doing right. You say “we are clearly insensitive to test” like it’s impossible that something you’re doing isn’t right.
If you have a human body that can store fat, you can eat enough to no longer be skinny. If you can do that, you can eat enough to gain muscle.
You’re lucky you’ve come to the right place. This board isn’t full of people that echo excuses for why they’re not where they want to be.
I started gettin serious with training at 19 was 6 ft 2 and 130lbs. Basically a toothpick. I did my first cycle at 20 with sust and dbol shot up to 155. Next year i did test and anadrol shot up to 176 by 22 i was close to 200lbs fairly muscular physique 17” arms and so on. I just kept eating and training trying to grow. Im not sure why some people have a hard time because i was as ecto as anyone could possibly be? Idk man there has to be something physically going on with you not allowing you to put on weight has your doc looked at your bloodwork? Thyroid good?
I duno, you coulda just been a very late bloomer. You look like a dude who was primed to be big; huge beard, thick wrists. I am more like James Franco, and I do notice that extremely few of the guys who can't grow a beard, have little body hair, ever get muscular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuz
I could put on fat, a lot less easily than most, but I can do it. I just can't get muscular. I may never do a cycle, but for sure without it I'm never going to have 16 inch arms. I appreciate your post.
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Originally Posted by TheGypsyKing
So just so im understanding you are natural correct? What are your current stats?
Let’s try this, list everything you ate yesterday.
I never realized how little I was eating untill I wrote it down. Its a shame I thought I was eating enough for so many years.
Once I started meal prepping and eating at certain times I realized had I listened to the vets I would 230lbs by now.
at 19 I was 6 foot 144. I've put 50 lbs on naturally since then. My quickest gains came during a linear progression where I added better part of a gallon of milk per day and 2 pb&j on top of three meals. It's doable!
Most of the guys u say they eat like joey chestnut, dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGypsyKing
I will advice to too look up James Tiny Wests channel. He has a solution for you. Even if u are skinny and broke. He has tons of vids, but each vid can be watched separately.
Dont watch a 10 min vid and move on. No, listen to his voice like religious people read the Bible. EACH DAY. Let James be your God. Soon u will cope, and i promise u. Ull grow.
No bs. No google studies wisdome. Just knowledge from 40 years in the trenches. With one take. How to get bigger without huge amount of drugs. Just some test, which gotta be in there!
Ihelp u get started. This is his major advice to guys like u. Drink a gallion of milk every day. It always boils down to this. Dont ever get close to a gym, if u Havent swalloved your milk.
Good luck!
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I’m drinking a quart of whole chocolate milk post wo. That’s 1000 Cals right there.Quote:
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Yes. I'm 5'11.5 about 160. 38 inch chest, 30-31 waist, not sure my body fat percent, but roughly the body composition of floyd mayweather (not when he's at weigh in and has cut weight and looks super ripped).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuz
The “right” way to do things is train as hard and long as you possibly can naturally before you start the gear. That way you most likely you have a solid foundation to build muscle on, and also you have alot of experience with diet and training.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGypsyKing
Many people react differently to AAS, so you really wont know until you do a few cycles. Dont really know what your training history look like etc but I wouldnt just accept the fact you are going to be skinny for the rest of your life bro
To supplement what Cuz said...
The right way to do it is to gain experience with diet and training first...
Your training may be good but...
If you are 5'11" and 160lbs...
you need to learn how to eat more.
Without more food, steroids will only make you hold more water weight.
You cannot create matter without energy. It's physics. Meaning...
You cannot create muscle tissue without providing it the building blocks of calories.
If you go on a cycle and don't eat more... you will simply hold more water.
If anything... steroids will speed up your metabolism.
Meaning, you'll have to eat even more on cycle.
So how many hotdogs can you eat?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGypsyKing