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    Hard to put on weight?

    I've always struggled to put on weight and I'm just trying to make sense of it.so I'm just gonna throw out a few things I don't understand.

    Just upped my calories by 5-600 a few weeks ago (I was maintaining before) i put on a couple pounds and dropped right back down and am now maintaining again. From my past history I know this is how it always goes so I'll up them again and the Same thing with happen.

    Now the strange part is no matter what AAS I run dbol , drol... I don't even put on water weight I've been straight out told before "the gear is fake" but it was from a legit source and I have used other sources with the same results. The only thing that works is MK 667 that will put 15 lbs on me in a month.

    Now i have gotten muscle development and people have called me out for using gear but I just can't put on size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    I've always struggled to put on weight and I'm just trying to make sense of it.so I'm just gonna throw out a few things I don't understand.

    Just upped my calories by 5-600 a few weeks ago (I was maintaining before) i put on a couple pounds and dropped right back down and am now maintaining again. From my past history I know this is how it always goes so I'll up them again and the Same thing with happen.

    Now the strange part is no matter what AAS I run dbol , drol... I don't even put on water weight I've been straight out told before "the gear is fake" but it was from a legit source and I have used other sources with the same results. The only thing that works is MK 667 that will put 15 lbs on me in a month.

    Now i have gotten muscle development and people have called me out for using gear but I just can't put on size.
    Steroid or not, if you're not gaining weight, it's because you're not eating enough. If "5-600" more calories per day doesn't cause you to gain weight, add more. I'm willing to bet that your not tracking your caloric intake that well. You can't guesstimate portion sizes and macros.

    And as far as running gear goes, unless you have bloodwork confirming you're on gear (like and elevated RBC and shut down testosterone if you're not taking test) you can't prove that the gear you took was legit. It doesn't matter how much you trust a source, there is always a chance they could be scamming you or their supplier was scamming them. The only way you can know that you're getting legitimate gear is if you bought that gear at a real pharmacy in a first-world country (and even that isn't 100%).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Steroid or not, if you're not gaining weight, it's because you're not eating enough. If "5-600" more calories per day doesn't cause you to gain weight, add more. I'm willing to bet that your not tracking your caloric intake that well. You can't guesstimate portion sizes and macros.

    And as far as running gear goes, unless you have bloodwork confirming you're on gear (like and elevated RBC and shut down testosterone if you're not taking test) you can't prove that the gear you took was legit. It doesn't matter how much you trust a source, there is always a chance they could be scamming you or their supplier was scamming them. The only way you can know that you're getting legitimate gear is if you bought that gear at a real pharmacy in a first-world country (and even that isn't 100%).
    I used to religious weigh and track everything but have slacked off on that during covid and an just getting back at it.

    I have had blood work done showing I was shut down and the only thing I can't figure out is my RBC always comes back on the low side when test and estrogen were high? Now I know other people running gear from the same source and they have no issues but I'll try another source just to be sure.

    Again I have made pretty good progress it's I just can't put on size I've been blasting and cruising for nearly 3 years and put on 20 lbs 10 of which came from my first test run.

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    Well, the RBC stats and being shut down is something to balance out for sure, since you don't wanna become a guinnea pig too fast in life playing with hormones and meds.
    However, the answer is the same still - if you don't put on weight, you eat too little.

    Granted, some things like stress, physical conditions, genetics and whatnot can affect weight gain positive and negative (up or down), and this is were the next
    answer comes in - habit.
    You need to have a habit of following a working protocol (for you) like a maniac.

    You might feel that "fuck this, that is what I am doing already"... No, no you are not, not if you are not gaining.
    It might take time, sure, but it will come.
    It's like the reverse, a fat person trying to be skinny. Some drop kgs in a week, while others fight months for the same results.
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    As mentioned before, the only reason for not going up in weight is not eating enough.

    The biggest factor is, just like with training, consistency. Simply put, you'll have to increase those 5/600 calories CONSISTENTLY over a period of time for them to have an effect, and then raise calories again when weight gain stalls. You should also probably relax dietary guidelines a bit and allow yourself some junk food to help make it easier to take in enough calories, and trust your gear to deposit as many of those into muscle as possible.

    'Hard Gainers' like you and me simply have a lower 'set point' for body mass than we would prefer, and our bodies try to maintain homeostasis at that point. It does that by both increasing our metabolic rate to compensate for extra calories coming in, as well as reducing appetite to make it harder to eat more. We all know that skinny person who can eat like a horse and not gain weight - but then people like that also tend to skip meals when they're not hungry which explains the net balance of calories matching metabolism - unless they also have hyperthyroidism preventing weight gain. This is also why people doing Intermittent Fasting can pretty much eat whatever they want during their feeding window.



    RBCs going down is NOT a factor, but it's unusual enough that you should get it checked up whenever it's safely possible to do so.
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    I agree that consistency in diet and training is the most important factor. Never said I couldn't gain weight it just takes a ton of food.

    My bigger question is my weight not going up at all when I run something like dbol or drop. I have used 3-4 different suppliers over the years and it's all the same but I will give another a try.

    As far as RBCs when I have gotten blood work through my doctor on a cruise she had no concern about it being borderline low, and on a blast it's not much higher???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    I agree that consistency in diet and training is the most important factor. Never said I couldn't gain weight it just takes a ton of food.

    My bigger question is my weight not going up at all when I run something like dbol or drop. I have used 3-4 different suppliers over the years and it's all the same but I will give another a try.

    As far as RBCs when I have gotten blood work through my doctor on a cruise she had no concern about it being borderline low, and on a blast it's not much higher???
    Well you shouldn't be running orals-only cycles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Well you shouldn't be running orals-only cycles.
    I'm not running oral only cycles.

    Is it not odd that I don't see any weight increase on dbol or drol I should have water retention yet alone strength gains. I don't expect anything magical but I've had a few people tell me something isn't right that's what makes me wonder.

    Only thing that I can really notice is tren roughly 3 weeks in and my strength gains are almost too much and at the same point it really screws with me mentally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    I'm not running oral only cycles.

    Is it not odd that I don't see any weight increase on dbol or drol I should have water retention yet alone strength gains. I don't expect anything magical but I've had a few people tell me something isn't right that's what makes me wonder.

    Only thing that I can really notice is tren roughly 3 weeks in and my strength gains are almost too much and at the same point it really screws with me mentally.
    Leads me to think your diet might be too clean or too low in calories if you aren't putting on even water weight with DBol - assuming of course that it was legit. Even with gear, you'll still need a calorie and nutrient surplus to build mass.

    Have you tested your t3 levels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SidVicious77 View Post
    Leads me to think your diet might be too clean or too low in calories if you aren't putting on even water weight with DBol - assuming of course that it was legit. Even with gear, you'll still need a calorie and nutrient surplus to build mass.

    Have you tested your t3 levels?
    Yes and they came back in range.

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    You simply are not eating enough food
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    I agree with windex, why are you weighing your food? Just eat a lot more. In a situation like yours there is no need to carefully select servings. If all else fails add a weight gainer shake. This is not a substitute for quality food but if you want to truly put yourself to the test get your calories way up not a few hundred over what you think is maintenance.

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