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    lost a ton of money because of customs

    It's been a while since I've done a cycle. And so I went to my favorite UGL and bought almost $500 worth of stuff. The first one gets stuck in customs for almost a week, until I get a letter stating that it was seized. I get with the UGL and they go ahead and do a second shipment for no extra charge. That's their policy. And it has been in custom since January 12th. Which means that they caught it, it's going to be seized, I'm going to get another letter and hopefully they don't do anything more than that. But on the flip side, I'm pissed because that UGL cost a lot of money. Two packets of Dianabol , 10 vials of testosterone propionate , and 4 vials of masteron propionate . The worst thing about going through an official UGL... which sucks because it was expensive. I'm so mad about this. There's nothing anyone can do

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    Welcome to forum. Sorry about your bad experience, right now its tough time to order internationally I personally wouldn’t myself

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    Sitting in Customs for 4 days isn't unusual. However, buying domestic eliminates the problems with Customs.
    There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Sitting in Customs for 4 days isn't unusual. However, buying domestic eliminates the problems with Customs.
    That’s pretty standard during normal times. Their shit’s been even more fucked up for the past ten months.
    My work had a piece of equipment from Italy sit in customs quarantine for 14 weeks earlier this year.

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    lost a ton of money because of customs

    I’m going on 10 weeks and still haven’t received any of my international orders. Tracking shows one still hasn’t left the country yet… Mine was quite a bit more as well ($1100 combined with the 35% holiday sales, so $1500 to replace without the sales)… broken into two orders and three shipments , two already mis-delivered, and Alin has already said they won’t replace... so, I’m down two thirds of my orders already, the last third possibly as well.

    I’ll be sticking with my domestic source for future orders for some time to play it safer in these uncertain times.

    Unfortunately, I’m not sure I can continue to recommend Alin; up until late last year, for the past 7 years or so, they stood behind their shipments. As of today, I’ve been advised they won’t make right the remaining lost $1000 in replacement cost to me for the first two lost shipments. They did provide partial credit (one of the shipments only), and without the sale I ordered during, so I got something.... but much less than half the credit needed to replace what I never received. This was a big order for me, from a source I had trusted.... but this last shipment makes three strikes and I only have a third of its cost in credit, and I’m down another 8-10 weeks to receive any replacement, if it even delivers, knowing they won’t credit it being lost either.

    I do think, now, that I will need to move my business to domestic or another


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    Customs didn’t cost you money ordering something illegal did lol. Domestic is the only way to go. I’m in Canada and even I know of US domestic sources there is no shortage of them.
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    Sorry buddy, when ever I order I do it with the attitude that this is $ I can afford to loose kind of like gambling at the casino...win some loose some...it still stings though, I get it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    Sorry buddy, when ever I order I do it with the attitude that this is $ I can afford to loose kind of like gambling at the casino...win some loose some...it still stings though, I get it...
    This is a good attitude to have. You should expect that you’ll get burned once in awhile, this ain’t amazon

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    Quote Originally Posted by admiraltraeger View Post
    It's been a while since I've done a cycle. And so I went to my favorite UGL and bought almost $500 worth of stuff. The first one gets stuck in customs for almost a week, until I get a letter stating that it was seized. I get with the UGL and they go ahead and do a second shipment for no extra charge. That's their policy. And it has been in custom since January 12th. Which means that they caught it, it's going to be seized, I'm going to get another letter and hopefully they don't do anything more than that. But on the flip side, I'm pissed because that UGL cost a lot of money. Two packets of Dianabol , 10 vials of testosterone propionate , and 4 vials of masteron propionate . The worst thing about going through an official UGL... which sucks because it was expensive. I'm so mad about this. There's nothing anyone can do
    Buy POWDERS only. Never an issue EVER. I personally do not understand why UGLs do not package in bottles imitating olive oil. I know I know not rocket scientists running the show lol.

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    I order some gear back in Oct. Was tracking and the order got stuck in Greece for like 2 months. I finally messaged my over seas source, and they sent a replacement order 2 days after Christmas. Well I got the original order This past Sat. lol Covid has caused some huge delays in shipping. Especially from overseas.

    I'd love to find a good domestic source though, that didn't cost me an arm and a leg like my local gym guy wants to charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    I order some gear back in Oct. Was tracking and the order got stuck in Greece for like 2 months. I finally messaged my over seas source, and they sent a replacement order 2 days after Christmas. Well I got the original order This past Sat. lol Covid has caused some huge delays in shipping. Especially from overseas.

    I'd love to find a good domestic source though, that didn't cost me an arm and a leg like my local gym guy wants to charge.
    Hopefully you do the right thing and pay your source for both orders. They sound like a stand up operation to re ship without a seizure letter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    Hopefully you do the right thing and pay your source for both orders. They sound like a stand up operation to re ship without a seizure letter.
    Yup. I'll wait to see if I get the second order and pay then. So far they've been great to deal with other than being overseas and somewhat slow shipping. First time I ordered just some var from them and got the order in about a month.

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    Trust me I’ve lost a lot of money due to customs, this year specifically as Xmas time is usually the best time to do your dirt. When it comes to gear I would advise you to look up the DNM Bible and explore that route until something else presents itself. Domestic is like 99.99% lol

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    That’s really shit to hear mate sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    Hopefully you do the right thing and pay your source for both orders. They sound like a stand up operation to re ship without a seizure letter.
    Well offered my source payment for the second order if I get it or to return it....which looks like I will according to the updated tracking, but they said to keep it. So not sure what I will do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    Well offered my source payment for the second order if I get it or to return it....which looks like I will according to the updated tracking, but they said to keep it. So not sure what I will do with it.
    If you attempted to pay them you did the right thing. if they tell you not to worry about it just keep it. no source will ever take a return, but considering they told you to keep it you now have some extra product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    If you attempted to pay them you did the right thing. if they tell you not to worry about it just keep it. no source will ever take a return, but considering they told you to keep it you now have some extra product.
    Agreed. I'm so far very pleased with their service. Like I said....not sure I'll use the product now though. Its all oral and I'm not trying to kill my liver. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    Agreed. I'm so far very pleased with their service. Like I said....not sure I'll use the product now though. Its all oral and I'm not trying to kill my liver. lol
    Ehh, the liver shit is overblown, unless you also drink heavily or are on a shitload of other meds. Usually the most acute problem from overdoing it on orals is peripancreantitis. Shit’s definitely not fun, but for most people, you’re talking 200+mg/day to get to that point.
    Other than that, orals definitely do tend to fuck up lipid profiles more than injectables, which to me, is a bigger concern than liver, as the latter does a really good job at regeneration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    Ehh, the liver shit is overblown, unless you also drink heavily or are on a shitload of other meds. Usually the most acute problem from overdoing it on orals is peripancreantitis. Shit’s definitely not fun, but for most people, you’re talking 200+mg/day to get to that point.
    Other than that, orals definitely do tend to fuck up lipid profiles more than injectables, which to me, is a bigger concern than liver, as the latter does a really good job at regeneration.
    I don't drink at all going on over 20 years now. Only meds I'm on is the test gel. I've always felt like I didn't get enough sleep no matter how long I sleep for. I was diagnosed with apnea years ago, so thought maybe going on the gel would help with sleeping and get my test levels back up a bit. I had no other issues associated with low t though. And I take duexis occasionally from shoulder issues /surgery. But rarely take them.
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    Alin wouldn't replace it? Thought he was good about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admiraltraeger View Post
    It's been a while since I've done a cycle. And so I went to my favorite UGL and bought almost $500 worth of stuff. The first one gets stuck in customs for almost a week, until I get a letter stating that it was seized. I get with the UGL and they go ahead and do a second shipment for no extra charge. That's their policy. And it has been in custom since January 12th. Which means that they caught it, it's going to be seized, I'm going to get another letter and hopefully they don't do anything more than that. But on the flip side, I'm pissed because that UGL cost a lot of money. Two packets of Dianabol , 10 vials of testosterone propionate , and 4 vials of masteron propionate . The worst thing about going through an official UGL... which sucks because it was expensive. I'm so mad about this. There's nothing anyone can do
    sorry to hear about your loose mate :-( sources should make it better or replace with another brand that ship from a better country with more succes rate!

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    lost a ton of money because of customs

    Quote Originally Posted by T-boner View Post
    Alin wouldn't replace it? Thought he was good about that.
    They used to be good about that; but, they aren’t replacing mine either. 3 shipments in total, 2 lost, the third likely lost due to timeframe nearly 9 weeks now on that one. They went as far as offering about 1/3 the cost to replace the shipments in credit to me, so I’m down $1,000 for all three, plus paying shipping fees again and including the lost money in not having the discounts I had when placed over the holidays. This obviously also doesn’t account for another two months waiting for a replacement order that may, or may not, arrive and, likely will not be replaced/credited if lost.


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    I know one online source I tried dealing with early last year that I'll never do business with again. Two shipments, never received either one and they wouldn't send a third unless I paid half the cost again of my order. Nor would they refund my payment at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronClydes View Post
    They used to be good about that; but, they aren’t replacing mine either. 3 shipments in total, 2 lost, the third likely lost due to timeframe nearly 9 weeks now on that one. They went as far as offering about 1/3 the cost to replace the shipments in credit to me, so I’m down $1,000 for all three, plus paying shipping fees again and including the lost money in not having the discounts I had when placed over the holidays. This obviously also doesn’t account for another two months waiting for a replacement order that may, or may not, arrive and, likely will not be replaced/credited if lost.


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    Damn things must have changed :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    I know one online source I tried dealing with early last year that I'll never do business with again. Two shipments, never received either one and they wouldn't send a third unless I paid half the cost again of my order. Nor would they refund my payment at all.
    Whats happending with these sellers :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpstore View Post
    Damn things must have changed :-(
    You have no idea; I finally got the third shipment (first two lost), and it’s not my order. In fact, it’s roughly worth about $200 (contains Sustanon and Cialis), but, not the $430 order placed (Primo, Proviron , Clen , Cialis, Tren , Nolva). I’m getting beyond frustrated with four orders placed and not a single one received yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IronClydes View Post
    You have no idea; I finally got the third shipment (first two lost), and it’s not my order. In fact, it’s roughly worth about $200 (contains Sustanon and Cialis), but, not the $430 order placed (Primo, Proviron , Clen , Cialis, Tren , Nolva). I’m getting beyond frustrated with four orders placed and not a single one received yet.


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    Thats very bad!

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    I just got an ashop order in 18 days not trying to rub it in just saying...I’m sorry you’re having a hard time with this I’ve never had an issue and have used them for years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    I just got an ashop order in 18 days not trying to rub it in just saying...I’m sorry you’re having a hard time with this I’ve never had an issue and have used them for years...
    Same, never an issue before, that they couldn’t resolve, and that’s with over 7 years of history. It’s been a frustrating time for all, and I understand that. Glad to hear you got yours brother.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IronClydes View Post
    Same, never an issue before, that they couldn’t resolve, and that’s with over 7 years of history. It’s been a frustrating time for all, and I understand that. Glad to hear you got yours brother.


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    I would also be upset if i were customer
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpstore View Post
    I would also be upset if i were customer
    My fingers are crossed that this replacement order makes it this time. Alin has never done me wrong, they are still trying to get me my products.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IronClydes View Post
    My fingers are crossed that this replacement order makes it this time. Alin has never done me wrong, they are still trying to get me my products.


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    I guess its the shipping locations thats to hot mate
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    I've been pretty consistent with stealth packets. A little pain in the ass to pull the solution out, but better at customs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onefm View Post
    I've been pretty consistent with stealth packets. A little pain in the ass to pull the solution out, but better at customs.
    Yeah stealth also a good way to get it through but not everybody likes the way

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    What is stealth packets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    What is stealth packets?
    better you write to one of the members and ask its not public
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronClydes View Post
    My fingers are crossed that this replacement order makes it this time. Alin has never done me wrong, they are still trying to get me my products.


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    They made good on everything, as of today, all that I ordered has been delivered. The only downside was waiting 4 months from my initial order to get everything delivered. But, they made sure I got it, they have stellar quality products, and stand by them.

    My 2 cents? Order well in advance as I did, to play it safe, and stick with Alin.


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    Shit, after getting a ADC order seized

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    I'll keep using my overseas source until they aren't reliable.

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