Nolvadex affect on fertility?

[Octaneforce]

So theres questions all the time about fertility on gear and how someone could conceive a child on cycle. But i think something that goes unlooked is the use of nolva on cycle. Tons of guys use nolva during cycles to prevent gyno. From what i gather, nolva improves fertility in men. So maybe those who have been able to have children while blasting/cycling were unknowingly assisted by nolva (even without hcg and clomid).

How significant is the improvement of fertility with nolva? Why is clomid always the go-to for fertility improvement? Just educating myself. Havent been posting much but this has had me thinking!

[PistolPete33]

Also, keep in mind that it takes 3-4 months for sperm to mature. So, if you're on week 8 of your cycle your sperm that you are ejaculating started a month or longer BEFORE you were on cycle. Your chances of getting your woman pregnant are about equal to when you were not on.

[Octaneforce]

Slightly informed speculation coming, so take what I offer with that in mind.

My guess is that clomid is the first course because in men, docs are likely trying to kill two birds with one stone: get an increase in test and an increase in fertility. Maybe they figure if we feel better, we will be more interested in makin' babies.

I have, perhaps erroneously, thought that Nolva has a greater positive impact on FSH than clomid does. When I have added low dose nolva to my Clomid hrt, my FSH goes up by a couple of points. That isn't a great test, because both are in play, just an observation.

HMG, I think, is the better choice for fertility versus HCG. I believe that HMG more closely mimics FSH and HCG more closely mimics LH, but once again, I'm not a doctor.

Wouldnt high FSH mean that the testes are not responding? (Feedback loop).

Your definitely right about hcg , atleast according to the research ive done. Hcg mimics LH to get the testes producing testosterone again. But i dont understand how that leads to sperm production on its own.

[Octaneforce]

Also, keep in mind that it takes 3-4 months for sperm to mature. So, if you're on week 8 of your cycle your sperm that you are ejaculating started a month or longer BEFORE you were on cycle. Your chances of getting your woman pregnant are about equal to when you were not on.

Thats a very good point. So for those of us blasting and cruising for years, would that mean its going to take 3-4 months of fertility therapy (nolva, clomid, hcg , etc) to see matured sperm?

[Octaneforce]

High FSH in the absence of increased sperm production would likely mean that the testicles are not functioning in regard to the production of sperm. Increasing FSH is a priority in the restoration of male fertility. I have never had my sperm count checked and truth be told, I don't think I ever will. It would NOT be cool to have gone through life not knowing that I was infertile. I most definitely would have changed some behavior!

Hahah!! Pretty sure theres at home sperm tests these days. Fsh and lh concepts are not the most basic things

[PistolPete33]

Thats a very good point. So for those of us blasting and cruising for years, would that mean its going to take 3-4 months of fertility therapy (nolva, clomid, hcg, etc) to see matured sperm?

Yes, this is where I'm currently at myself. I've been on TRT and blasting and cruising for 7+ years. Got divorced, new fiance, want kids, no luck. HAHA. I ended up coming off and I'm just starting month 3 so hoping in the next month or two we get a pregnancy.

[Octaneforce]

Yes, this is where I'm currently at myself. I've been on TRT and blasting and cruising for 7+ years. Got divorced, new fiance, want kids, no luck. HAHA. I ended up coming off and I'm just starting month 3 so hoping in the next month or two we get a pregnancy.

Oh wow you came off all gear? You are committed! Good luck man. Its gonna work!!