Adding Tren E to my TRT protocol

[MikeyMoo]

I've been self-medicating a TRT-esque regimen for around 12 months now: 180mg Test E pw.

Considering adding Tren E and wondered what the members thought:

-How long should I run it?
-Dosage?
-Should I incorporate anything else?

Never needed to use ancillaries as yet however they are on hand if need be.

Many thanks in advance,
M

NB: Recent bloodwork attached.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Tren isn't really a TRT type drug IMO.

What are you hoping to accomplish?

[Charlie67]

Depending on what your going for, answers will vary....
If you're thinking about adding Tren as a little kicker and staying at your TRT dose of Test, I would use Tren Ace instead of Tren E. You could add 300/week for six weeks or so and get a pretty good feel for how it goes, but like Deadlift said, depends on what you're trying to accomplish.

I'm not you, but basically all I do any more it run my TRT dose of Test all year and every couple of months run 6-8 weeks of 300 TrenA and 400 Mast to the mix. Tiny, little, simple changes.

[Wannabhuge14]

I've been self-medicating a TRT-esque regimen for around 12 months now: 180mg Test E pw.

Considering adding Tren E and wondered what the members thought:

-How long should I run it?
-Dosage?
-Should I incorporate anything else?

Never needed to use ancillaries as yet however they are on hand if need be.

Many thanks in advance,
M

NB: Recent bloodwork attached.

You can add Tren in a blast but I would by no means run it for more than 8 weeks depending on Ester. Deca and primo are generally more xommin things to run with trt for extended amounts of time.

[MikeyMoo]

Tren isn't really a TRT type drug IMO.

What are you hoping to accomplish?

Completely agree however, since starting trt I've lost 4 stone and completely changed my body shape.

Looking to push things along now and see what I can achieve..

[Cuz]

Probably the worst thing to cruise on. Id opt for primo

[MikeyMoo]

Probably the worst thing to cruise on. Id opt for primo

If I ran it for say, 8 weeks, then reverted to my normal regimen, am I likely to see any results? If so, what dosage given I'm on 180mg t pw?
And would I simply lose these gains once I'm back to the test e only?

[Cuz]

If I ran it for say, 8 weeks, then reverted to my normal regimen, am I likely to see any results? If so, what dosage given I'm on 180mg t pw?
And would I simply lose these gains once I'm back to the test e only?

You can run tren e for 8 weeks no problem if its something you are used to. Have you ever ran tren?

[Wannabhuge14]

If I ran it for say, 8 weeks, then reverted to my normal regimen, am I likely to see any results? If so, what dosage given I'm on 180mg t pw?
And would I simply lose these gains once I'm back to the test e only?

If you run Ace for 8 weeks at 180mg for 8 weeks you will see great results. I've never ran more than 200mg per week and have been very pleased each time. Honestly if you. Only run 6 weeks you will be very happy as long as NG as your expectations are within reason. That's if your diet and training are both on point.

[MikeyMoo]

Depending on what your going for, answers will vary....
If you're thinking about adding Tren as a little kicker and staying at your TRT dose of Test, I would use Tren Ace instead of Tren E. You could add 300/week for six weeks or so and get a pretty good feel for how it goes, but like Deadlift said, depends on what you're trying to accomplish.

I'm not you, but basically all I do any more it run my TRT dose of Test all year and every couple of months run 6-8 weeks of 300 TrenA and 400 Mast to the mix. Tiny, little, simple changes.

Thanks Charlie. My thoughts are a little kicker, like you say. Exactly that. Ok so if I went with Tren Ace, does that mean I need to change my injection cycle? Currently pin on a Monday and Thursday.

[MikeyMoo]

You can run tren e for 8 weeks no problem if its something you are used to. Have you ever ran tren?

No, not yet. The funkiest i've gotten was to run a little therapeutic dose of deca along with some winny. Did this for 8 weeks at the back end of last year. Cracking little cycle, great results and felt good throughout.

[Cuz]

No, not yet. The funkiest i've gotten was to run a little therapeutic dose of deca along with some winny. Did this for 8 weeks at the back end of last year. Cracking little cycle, great results and felt good throughout.

If i were you id try tren ace, to see how you respond to it. Sometimes things dont always go as planned with tren. Id also start dosing on the small side

[MikeyMoo]

If i were you id try tren ace, to see how you respond to it. Sometimes things dont always go as planned with tren. Id also start dosing on the small side

Ok, can I just stack that with my test E i.e. 2 pins per week?
Mirror the test dosage - so 180mg test e and 180mg tren ace per week?

[Gallowmere]

Ok, can I just stack that with my test E i.e. 2 pins per week?
Mirror the test dosage - so 180mg test e and 180mg tren ace per week?

I wouldn’t even go that high with it.
I have a friend who actually gets good results for his psychological issues with low dose Tren along with his TRT. His test is set at 125, and Tren is 80/week of Enan.

[MikeyMoo]

I wouldn’t even go that high with it.
I have a friend who actually gets good results for his psychological issues with low dose Tren along with his TRT. His test is set at 125, and Tren is 80/week of Enan.

Does he cruise on it?

[Gallowmere]

Does he cruise on it?

It’s not a cruise when it’s literally a permanent part of your HRT. So no, but for the spirit of your question, yes.

[redz]

I would never run any long ester less than 10 weeks but that’s just me.

[MikeyMoo]

It’s not a cruise when it’s literally a permanent part of your HRT. So no, but for the spirit of your question, yes.

Alright mate

[MikeyMoo]

Ok then, appreciate all the input as always.

I didn't get any answers to adopting a different injection pattern if I opted for tren ace so all things considered, I'm going to go with tren e and simply add it to my bi-weekly test e regimen. Going to run 120mg pw of the tren for no other reason than it will make a nice round 0.5ml per pin.

Are you lot interested if I report back to this thread when I'm done - or if I need any advice during?

[Cuz]

Ok then, appreciate all the input as always.

I didn't get any answers to adopting a different injection pattern if I opted for tren ace so all things considered, I'm going to go with tren e and simply add it to my bi-weekly test e regimen. Going to run 120mg pw of the tren for no other reason than it will make a nice round 0.5ml per pin.

Are you lot interested if I report back to this thread when I'm done - or if I need any advice during?

Again I personally wouldnt advise doing tren if you do not know the difference between an Ace esther and an Enanthate . But to answer you yes the E can pinned twice weekly. Ace needs to be pinned every day but can get away with eod injections.

Any more questions feel free to ask someone can help

[< <Samson> >]

Ummm yeah, know what you're spiking up before u do


If u never ran tren , I'd run ace 1st


I ran it pretty much as TRT & my late friend did also - I never liked enan, I ran ace about 10(maybe a little less) months or so out of the year - for about 4-5 years I think. Warrying doses from 1gram a week down to 200mg a week - tren & dRol is what made me grow the most


My dude ran enan for two years straight, he ran it from 45-47(when he passed) at only 200mg a week - we both looked our best ever. . . He passed. . . . I stopped the tren for a few months then jumped back on pretty much until I came down with my brain hemorrhage last year


What's really hilarious is that his death nor my condition had nothing to do with tren or roids in general


But, in reality - it will rock you up eventually. . . . Some, just get it much faster & worse than others


When I was pumping down heavy doses I would donate blood as much as they'd let me - I went almost anemic doing it


So - if u don't mind the self health abuse, sure - with your test dose, I'd go at a very low dose - maybe like 100-150mg a week - but, try ace 1st. . . . Enan sides are nasty for some - tren enan is what my gyno 1st sprout

[kelkel]

- with your test dose, I'd go at a very low dose - maybe like 100-150mg a week - but, try ace 1st. . . .

This ^^^^^

[wango]

Dug 75 mg./wk. tren ace per week. At 61 y.o. at the time, thought it was the cat’s pajamas. Ready again now at 63. Watch your mental state and double question your actions/decisions when on it however. A bit altered state might be expected.

[Gallowmere]

Dug 75 mg./wk. tren ace per week. At 61 y.o. at the time, thought it was the cat’s pajamas. Ready again now at 63. Watch your mental state and double question your actions/decisions when on it however. A bit altered state might be expected.

That’s not too far off of what Parabolan (the only Trenbolone preparation ever approved for human use) was dosed at. It was technically 76mg/10 days (Hex ester), but not THAT much different than 75/week of Ace.

[MikeyMoo]

Again I personally wouldnt advise doing tren if you do not know the difference between an Ace esther and an Enanthate . But to answer you yes the E can pinned twice weekly. Ace needs to be pinned every day but can get away with eod injections.

Any more questions feel free to ask someone can help

Appreciate that, thanks. I've been using this forum as a reference point because clearly, there are a lot of people on here with fantastic first hand knowledge. Having done research into the different esters and their half lives, I opted for enanthate as my test protocol given I'm fairly new to this, I wanted to keep my pining to a minimum. Figured this my also work for tren but again, wanted to put it out there and see what I got back from the members. Is that not the whole point of this?

Next time I should just go read a book right?

[Gallowmere]

Appreciate that, thanks. I've been using this forum as a reference point because clearly, there are a lot of people on here with fantastic first hand knowledge. Having done research into the different esters and their half lives, I opted for enanthate as my test protocol given I'm fairly new to this, I wanted to keep my pining to a minimum. Figured this my also work for tren but again, wanted to put it out there and see what I got back from the members. Is that not the whole point of this?

Next time I should just go read a book right?

Yes and no.
While getting practical application knowledge from us (and other verifiable sources) is fantastic, you absolutely should start with a strong foundation of the knowledge of the fundamentals.
I’d highly recommend grabbing a copy of William Llewellyn’s Anabolics. It’s available in pretty much every format these days, and is an invaluable reference guide for each of the different AAS (excluding some of the newer shit that doesn’t see wide use).

[MikeyMoo]

Ummm yeah, know what you're spiking up before u do


If u never ran tren , I'd run ace 1st


I ran it pretty much as TRT & my late friend did also - I never liked enan, I ran ace about 10(maybe a little less) months or so out of the year - for about 4-5 years I think. Warrying doses from 1gram a week down to 200mg a week - tren & dRol is what made me grow the most


My dude ran enan for two years straight, he ran it from 45-47(when he passed) at only 200mg a week - we both looked our best ever. . . He passed. . . . I stopped the tren for a few months then jumped back on pretty much until I came down with my brain hemorrhage last year


What's really hilarious is that his death nor my condition had nothing to do with tren or roids in general


But, in reality - it will rock you up eventually. . . . Some, just get it much faster & worse than others


When I was pumping down heavy doses I would donate blood as much as they'd let me - I went almost anemic doing it


So - if u don't mind the self health abuse, sure - with your test dose, I'd go at a very low dose - maybe like 100-150mg a week - but, try ace 1st. . . . Enan sides are nasty for some - tren enan is what my gyno 1st sprout

Here thanks mate, really appreciate that advice and sorry to hear about your health issues. Stay safe and well bud.

[MikeyMoo]

Yes and no.
While getting practical application knowledge from us (and other verifiable sources) is fantastic, you absolutely should start with a strong foundation of the knowledge of the fundamentals.
I’d highly recommend grabbing a copy of William Llewellyn’s Anabolics. It’s available in pretty much every format these days, and is an invaluable reference guide for each of the different AAS (excluding some of the newer shit that doesn’t see wide use).

Thank you. I guess the horse has bolted on this given I'm a year into it however I have an do read up as much as I can on the subject as I'm generally interested in it. As I am also interested in real people's real-life experiences. It's all good.

[Gallowmere]

Thank you. I guess the horse has bolted on this given I'm a year into it however I have an do read up as much as I can on the subject as I'm generally interested in it. As I am also interested in real people's real-life experiences. It's all good.

It’s a pretty awesome rabbit hole, and I found myself in it over time as well.
One of the best overall resources that I have found is Broderick Chavez’s website, teamevilgsp. He puts out a fair amount of free content, but most of his best resources and content are behind a $14.99/mo or $150/yr paywall on the website. If you really want to tumble down into a massive amount of reputable information (he has clients in WSM, the Olympia, several of the Olympic sports, etc.), I cannot recommend it enough.

[MikeyMoo]

It’s a pretty awesome rabbit hole, and I found myself in it over time as well.
One of the best overall resources that I have found is Broderick Chavez’s website, teamevilgsp. He puts out a fair amount of free content, but most of his best resources and content are behind a $14.99/mo or $150/yr paywall on the website. If you really want to tumble down into a massive amount of reputable information (he has clients in WSM, the Olympia, several of the Olympic sports, etc.), I cannot recommend it enough.

I will definitely check him out, thanks bud.