Time for a change

**Jals** · 07-24-2003, 08:11 PM

I was looking at doing a deca /sust/dbol cycle but my last three cycles have had deca in them, I was wondering if i could just substitute the deca for EQ if it would have the same effect. Probably want to do the eq for 12 weeks but not sure how long to do the sust for. Dbol probably 3-4weeks max.

**popa** · 07-24-2003, 08:24 PM

I would , I perfer EQ over deca and if you run EQ run it for 15 weeks: try this:

D-bol 1-5
EQ 1-15
sus 1-10 or 12

**Jals** · 07-24-2003, 08:28 PM

how much eq per week? And i also heard that with sust I should do 250/week until the dbol is finished then up it to 500/week then back down to 250/week. True?

**popa** · 07-24-2003, 08:32 PM

no need to taper, keep it stable through out the cycle
d-bol 30mg 1-4
EQ 600mg 1-15
sus 500mg 1-10 or 12
what was your dosage for the deca in your last 3 cycles and your stats

**Jals** · 07-24-2003, 08:37 PM

wow that kinda high isnt it? I mean I've never done eq or sust before. All I've done is a deca /dbol /primo cycle and a deca/winny cycle. I thought maybe 300mgs/week of eq and 250/week of sust. I just dont wanna go to crazy with my first test cycle.

**popa** · 07-24-2003, 08:45 PM

whats your weight and age? I would still keep the sus at 500mgs/week and lowwer the EQ to 400mgs/week keep the d bol strength to what you normally do it in your prevous cycles.

**gundam675** · 07-24-2003, 08:53 PM

yeah EQ for the first time could be run at 400 - 600 mg !

**Jals** · 07-24-2003, 09:05 PM

I'm 24..weigh about 185. Just finishing up my decca winny cycle. So What if I do 12 weeks eq at 400/week and sust and 250/week until I run out of the dbol then 500/week for the last 6 weeks.

**Jals** · 07-25-2003, 10:55 PM

So I think I got it...
EQ 500mg/week 1-12 weeks
Dbol 30mgs ed 1-4 weeks
Sust 250mg/week 3-12 weeks
then clomid two weeks after my last shot of eq
Good or bad?

**BDTR** · 07-25-2003, 11:01 PM

run the sust at atleast 500mg the entire cycle, start clomid 17-21 days after your last EQ shot.

**Jals** · 07-26-2003, 06:07 PM

Even thought this would be my first time doing sust? Never done any test before.

**popa** · 07-26-2003, 06:32 PM

sus once a week is a waste IMO, I would defenatly go 500mg/week with sus or a better choice would be eth or cyp at 500mgs.week, your blood levels would be much more stable with long acting esters

**Jals** · 07-26-2003, 08:43 PM

ok so I'll go with the sust at 500/week. One more question though. I've been doing decca at 600/week so would I be able to handle eq at the same amount? Or are the two not that closely related?

**popa** · 07-26-2003, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Jals

ok so I'll go with the sust at 500/week. One more question though. I've been doing decca at 600/week so would I be able to handle eq at the same amount? Or are the two not that closely related?

they are very a like, if you were doing deca at 600 then I would do the EQ at the same

**Jals** · 07-27-2003, 07:20 AM

so I can end the sust and eq on the same week and then start the clomis 17-21 days later?

**Jals** · 07-28-2003, 10:24 AM

bump?

**FrkyBgStok** · 07-28-2003, 11:01 AM

you should take clomid 3 weeks after last sus. shot and 3 weeks after last eq shot. so ideally you would try to hit both shots on the same day, therefore you could start clomid on the same day.

**chris1tr69** · 07-28-2003, 01:20 PM

def should go with sus 500 instead of 250 youll see much better results and as for the eq goes i think there right and you should run at least 400 mg a week