Guys I got a situation !

[taha536]

I am the one who was messed up. You might know me. I applied for a modeling and an acting agency and they told me to jack up in order to sign up. I am thinking about doing my next cycle even though people have told me to stay away from gear for several years. Previously I ran equipoise +primobolan depot for 5 weeks 500mg each/week. Then did a PCT for around 4 weeks
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomi 100/50/50/50
I have saved around Rs 10,000($100). Now i was thinking to avoid pre cycle blood work and spend this money on buying gear.
This is my plan
WK 1-6: Dianabol 30mg/ed
WK 1-12: Testoviron Depot (testosterone enanthate )500mg/wk
WK 13-15: No Anabolic Steroids
WK 16-18: Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)
My father would be bearing my diet expense. I am really confused I need suggestions about whether should I get blood work or not ? and Is this test and dianabol cycle right for me?

[Fluidic Kimbo]

I have saved around Rs 10,000($100).

Are they Indian Rupees? Do you wish to act in Bollywood?

Changing the shape and appearance of your body for somebody else's wishes isn't in my opinion a good thing. Even if it is to reach your own indirect goals, I'd still take time to consider the benefits and drawbacks, and how it will affect your other life goals.

Just to give an example, I'd love to compete in Thai Boxing again, I'd really love the buzz and comradery of the fight nights all over again, but that would mean dropping about 38 lbs. I don't have any trainer or club telling me to lose that weight, it would be my own decision. But I've made the decision that I want to become stronger and more muscular.

By the way, the acting agency probably wants you to be muscular but also have low bodyfat (below 15% probably). I reckon after your first cycle of Dbol and Test, your bodyfat percentage will be a little above 20% -- so you'll show up at the audition and they'll be like "You're big and muscular but we need you to tone up".

[taha536]

They are Pakistani rupees and I want to get into Pakistani movies, dramas and advertisements. They just told me that you have to look like a model to be one in terms of physique. I am open to suggestions. I want to gain muscle and lose fat.

[David LoPan]

I am the one who was messed up. You might know me. I applied for a modeling and an acting agency and they told me to jack up in order to sign up. I am thinking about doing my next cycle even though people have told me to stay away from gear for several years. Previously I ran equipoise +primobolan depot for 5 weeks 500mg each/week. Then did a PCT for around 4 weeks
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomi 100/50/50/50
I have saved around Rs 10,000($100). Now i was thinking to avoid pre cycle blood work and spend this money on buying gear.
This is my plan
WK 1-6: Dianabol 30mg/ed
WK 1-12: Testoviron Depot (testosterone enanthate )500mg/wk
WK 13-15: No Anabolic Steroids
WK 16-18: Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)
My father would be bearing my diet expense. I am really confused I need suggestions about whether should I get blood work or not? and Is this test and Dianabol cycle right for me?

Only you can say if a cycle is right for you. You need to post up your stats but you have run a cycle. I personally would not start out with Dianabol right out of the gate, if this is the second cycle you really don't need it IMO. I would also put HCG in there as well. IMO you can only really tell if the gear is legit by doing a before cycle and then mid cycle blood work. I can say your PCT time is a little short. I would go with a 4 week PCT. Write down your plan, keep track of what you are doing and record your results.

Your diet and exercise plan will be key to you bulking up more than anything IMO. I dont know how much your gear cost but only 100 in saving for this to me is not enough. I would spend it on food and time in the gym.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

I don't think anyone ever looked toned after their first cycle with Test, it makes you retain water and gives you a soft look (and also moon face). Taking Dbol with it will make you look softer and rounder. You will definitely gain a lot of muscle but you'll find it difficult to get all that fat off (and it will take weeks for the retained water to dissipate).

[taha536]

Im around 5'7 75kgs with 20-25% fat. My father will be bearing my food and gym expense. Ok I will add HCG . I will be running my pct for 4 weeks i have written it. Do you mean i should run for longer than 4 weeks ?

[taha536]

So should i do a bulk cycle or a cut cycle ?

[David LoPan]

So should i do a bulk cycle or a cut cycle ?

You should really spend some time and read this. With a higher BF you might need to run an AI as well. Only a blood test will really tell you this information. Here is a very good read on doing a cycle. https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html

[taha536]

You should really spend some time and read this. With a higher BF you might need to run an AI as well. Only a blood test will really tell you this information. Here is a very good read on doing a cycle. https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html

yea i read this. It clearly mentions that I should get my fat % down. But what if i use AI will it be worth it or should I get a blood work ?

[David LoPan]

So should i do a bulk cycle or a cut cycle ?

https://www.steroid.com/Dianabol.php

There is the link to the effects of Dianabol . I thought you were doing a bulk cycle. Again your BF and your diet are going to be KEY in your cycle. I would prefer you do spend a few weeks in the gym and really spend some time on the nutrition section of this forum. https://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

You should also read this as it relates to an AI. https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...hen-cycle.html

[David LoPan]

yea i read this. It clearly mentions that I should get my fat % down. But what if i use AI will it be worth it or should I get a blood work ?

It kind of depends on your trust in your gear and the risk you want to run. When I was younger I never did blood work and I wish I would have. I just looked and saw you are 19. I would not recommend you doing a cycle if you do not do a blood test. Your natural test might already be high to get a lot of gains in the gym without the need for AAS. I would say that most of the members on here would say don't run a cycle at your age. We didn't have access to the risks of AAS or how to use them, why you should wait until you are older to run AAS, etc.

I bet you could get all the results you want by doing it naturally and getting training and nutrition advice here on this site. You are young and there is a risk with doing steroids at your age as it relates to your health and possibly sexual issues, like being able to have kids, among a lot of other issues by doing something you really dont need.

[ghettoboyd]

As green as you are to steroids and how they work let me just say that if you are putting your future on this one cycle prepare to be disappointed...it will take many cycles and experience to get to where you want to be...steroids are not the miracle the you and or the media wants you to believe...

[Fluidic Kimbo]

Im around 5'7 75kgs with 20-25% fat.

Your bodyfat will climb up past 30% if you do a bulk cycle. Nobody will hire you for modelling or acting when you get that chubby.

[Test Monsterone]

If you are 20-25% bf, you need to lose that weight before you get on any cycle. Excess fat leads to excess estrogen conversion. In males, the majority of the conversion from testosterone into estrogen happens in visceral fat (belly).

Also, it seems like a bad idea to run a cycle, having little to no workout experience, for some potential modeling gig... what if they still don't want you after you have destroyed your HPTA and now have low-T for the rest of your life? People who get into steroids do so because they have usually put in years of hard work into their bodies and want to take it to the next level. At your stats, you seem like a total noob, no offense.

[Honkey_Kong]

If you want an honest suggestion. Don't take steroids . You're 25% bodyfat. Go learn how to eat and train better for a few years. If that modeling agency is legit, they'll be there in 3 years.

Your cycle isn't going to yield the results you want and you're going to potentially fvuk up your HPTA all for something that you might not even get. And given by your track record you're just going to refuse to listen to the honest advice people give you here.

[Cuz]

Why is your body fat so high at only 75 kg?

[fit_deskjocky]

With the questions above, what is your gym history? I don't know the specifics of the modelling and acting industry in India but I question bulking up anymore at 5'7" at 20-25% bodyfat. It seems in the states models are low body fat and shredded. I would think that would be an appeal for all nationalities. At your age, you should be able make serious progress with a good workout and nutrition.

[kelkel]

I At your age, you should be able make serious progress with a good workout and nutrition.

Exactly.

[tarmyg]

They are Pakistani rupees and I want to get into Pakistani movies, dramas and advertisements. They just told me that you have to look like a model to be one in terms of physique. I am open to suggestions. I want to gain muscle and lose fat.

I’ve been modeling in the neighboring country of India for years. Anyone who tells you need to be “jacked” is pulling your leg. Modeling has very little to do with being ripped as those jobs are far and few in between and more to do with how your look portrays whatever they are selling. I.e., I was 205lb and did a 4-day shoot for Ola cabs because my “face” looked western enough as the ad was for the UK.

Advice: get a serious agent who can help you navigate this ridiculous world of contradictions.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

I wonder would one of these come in handy?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Deluxe-Musc.../dp/B01LYD0J6V

[Honkey_Kong]

I’ve been modeling in the neighboring country of India for years. Anyone who tells you need to be “jacked” is pulling your leg. Modeling has very little to do with being ripped as those jobs are far and few in between and more to do with how your look portrays whatever they are selling. I.e., I was 205lb and did a 4-day shoot for Ola cabs because my “face” looked western enough as the ad was for the UK.

Advice: get a serious agent who can help you navigate this ridiculous world of contradictions.

Every couple weeks, he comes back with a new angle. He gets told basically the same advice and doesn't like it so he comes back a week or two later repackaging his gimmick.

He obviously knows what everybody is going to say. If he's this hell bent on going through with it, why does he ask everybody for their blessing?

[Dgs59]

They are Pakistani rupees and I want to get into Pakistani movies, dramas and advertisements. They just told me that you have to look like a model to be one in terms of physique. I am open to suggestions. I want to gain muscle and lose fat.

Not all Pakistani actors are jacked up bro... Not sure why jacking up is the requirement. $100 or RS10000 will take you nowhere in bodybuilding, tell me what's the price of chicken per KG in your country? Get a part time job unless your dad is rich as fuck then you good but doesn't sound like he is, so I will recommend get a part-time job first to afford your bodybuilding and not wait for the modelling opportunity to come through, even though if you sign up there are going to be tons of other guys inline, fuck knows when they will call you and if they do it might be $50 shot so follow your dreams but on your own cost not to overload your parents and don't waste time waitibg for the opportunity, run after it but on your own.

[taha536]

Why is your body fat so high at only 75 kg?

i don't know maybe the cycles fucked me up. I am trying to get it around 12--15%. I am doing HIIT and I workout 6 days a week for 45 minutes. I follow the training principles from these books. "The encyclopedia of modern bodybuilding" and "Bigger Leaner Stronger". I calculated my daily caloric needs according to the book they are around 2500-3000 kcals a day.

[taha536]

Every couple weeks, he comes back with a new angle. He gets told basically the same advice and doesn't like it so he comes back a week or two later repackaging his gimmick.

He obviously knows what everybody is going to say. If he's this hell bent on going through with it, why does he ask everybody for their blessing?

yea It's true. You're absolutely right and this is the case wid me. I understand the risks and I know I might have damaged myself. I lack mentors here. We don't have these mentorship institutes in Pakistan. I am just trying my best to pursue my dream. The guy who said it looks like you're not rich it's true I belong to a middle class. And i do have a source to support my training expenses. I take my bachelor classes from 8am till 4pm. Then i give tuition classes from 4:30 till 6 then I go to work in a local restaurant. I am doing whatever I can. I just don't have people to tell me what to do. i appreciate the assistance you guys provide.

[taha536]

With the questions above, what is your gym history? I don't know the specifics of the modelling and acting industry in India but I question bulking up anymore at 5'7" at 20-25% bodyfat. It seems in the states models are low body fat and shredded. I would think that would be an appeal for all nationalities. At your age, you should be able make serious progress with a good workout and nutrition.

I have been working out for 4 years.

[Honkey_Kong]

yea It's true. You're absolutely right and this is the case wid me. I understand the risks and I know I might have damaged myself. I lack mentors here. We don't have these mentorship institutes in Pakistan. I am just trying my best to pursue my dream. The guy who said it looks like you're not rich it's true I belong to a middle class. And i do have a source to support my training expenses. I take my bachelor classes from 8am till 4pm. Then i give tuition classes from 4:30 till 6 then I go to work in a local restaurant. I am doing whatever I can. I just don't have people to tell me what to do. i appreciate the assistance you guys provide.

The best advice you can get right now is to focus on your school and workout as a hobby. When you graduate and get a real job, then maybe we can talk.

[Cuz]

i don't know maybe the cycles fucked me up. I am trying to get it around 12--15%. I am doing HIIT and I workout 6 days a week for 45 minutes. I follow the training principles from these books. "The encyclopedia of modern bodybuilding" and "Bigger Leaner Stronger". I calculated my daily caloric needs according to the book they are around 2500-3000 kcals a day.

Well i dont know your history but something is off bro. You may need some guidance in the gym with your workouts. Even with a shit diet thats too high to be working hard . Hopefully someone can give you some training advice in the gym to help you

[Wannabhuge14]

i don't know maybe the cycles fucked me up. I am trying to get it around 12--15%. I am doing HIIT and I workout 6 days a week for 45 minutes. I follow the training principles from these books. "The encyclopedia of modern bodybuilding" and "Bigger Leaner Stronger". I calculated my daily caloric needs according to the book they are around 2500-3000 kcals a day.

The cycles didn't do anything to screw you up. They do not make or break you, they help you achieve reasonable goals if your diet and training are on point with said goals. You say that you eat 2500-3000 calories a day which tells me that you do not track what goes into your body and you really don't know how much you are eating. Track every single thing that goes down the hatch. Also, 2500 calories too much for you at that bodyweight. I dare say you should be eating closer to the 2k calorie mark per day to cut fat.