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    Advice for the wife, a womenís experience appreciated

    My wife is 34, been lifting on and off for 5yrs. Sheís in good shape and has 4 kids so we are done. First 3 kids were boys and she bounced back quick but after her last pregnancy (our daughter) she is now super effected by estrogen. PMS/bloating etc. Iím 40, cycled numerous times and consider myself educated in Peds. Sheís done Var/clen /t3 a couple of times but is afraid she may react to the Var differently so she wanted to try a different approach. I mentioned a SERM like Nolvadex since it still allows for estro in the liver/joints etc and may help with the bloating. Itís also stimulates LH and FSH along with test. So the libido increase would be appreciated as well. My question is for any females with experience on a SERM, do you think this is a viable option?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Griff579 View Post
    My wife is 34, been lifting on and off for 5yrs. She’s in good shape and has 4 kids so we are done. First 3 kids were boys and she bounced back quick but after her last pregnancy (our daughter) she is now super effected by estrogen. PMS/bloating etc. I’m 40, cycled numerous times and consider myself educated in Peds. She’s done Var/clen /t3 a couple of times but is afraid she may react to the Var differently so she wanted to try a different approach. I mentioned a SERM like Nolvadex since it still allows for estro in the liver/joints etc and may help with the bloating. It’s also stimulates LH and FSH along with test. So the libido increase would be appreciated as well. My question is for any females with experience on a SERM, do you think this is a viable option?


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    Have her start an account here and gain access to the woman’s only forum...email admin.

    That’s the best advice I have

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    Welcome to the forums by the way.

    Wasn’t trying to be dismissive, hope it didn’t come across that way. We see guys posting for their woman a lot and ultimately guys have limited experience regarding your topic. There’s definitely some guys that’ll chime in, but posting alongside other woman who can share their anecdotes is the best bet. Hope that makes sense...
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    Didnít seem like that at all bud, didnít realize there was a womenís forum. Havenít been on one of these for 10+ yrs lol. It actually makes perfect sense and Iíll mention it to her. In the meantime if anyone does want to chime in the more experiences and opinions are prob a good thing. Anyways thanks for the direction and welcome. Appreciate it


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    have her go to an hrt doctor so she can get real help. you see some females that come to the conclusion of using peds on their own which i would never knock. most of the time its recommended by their partner which is rediculous. not accusing you of this either. to me if the roles were reversed and my girlfriend said you should start taking some progesterone and estrogen it will help you get in better shape. i would think that sounded like the dumbest shit i ever heard, but this happens all the time to women.

    obviously some women do this completely on there own, but thats more the exception. having a female use compounds that mimic male sex hormones to get in shape is just fucked. she has had multiple kids she just needs to work harder and get her hormones balanced. she doesnt need serms, sarms or any AAS unless prescribed to get her back to homeostasis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    have her go to an hrt doctor so she can get real help. you see some females that come to the conclusion of using peds on their own which i would never knock. most of the time its recommended by their partner which is rediculous. not accusing you of this either. to me if the roles were reversed and my girlfriend said you should start taking some progesterone and estrogen it will help you get in better shape. i would think that sounded like the dumbest shit i ever heard, but this happens all the time to women.

    obviously some women do this completely on there own, but thats more the exception. having a female use compounds that mimic male sex hormones to get in shape is just fucked. she has had multiple kids she just needs to work harder and get her hormones balanced. she doesnt need serms, sarms or any AAS unless prescribed to get her back to homeostasis.
    I hear ya, and itís not me pushing her towards peds. Iím sure I share some responsibility in her decision prob just from watching me over the years but Iíve actually held her back from more serious compounds. Btw, I know several women on peds and they handle them well.. So I just want to clarify, she has been to a womanís clinic and they said she is all within normal range other than iron and D deficiency. Itís seems she is just more prone to the effects of estrogen than before, not that her levels are out of whack.. Make sense?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Have her start an account here and gain access to the womanís only forum...email admin.

    Thatís the best advice I have
    Just wanted to circle back as the wife did check in with another female athlete we know and basically since the she is on birth control a SERM is a big no no, Iím sure you can imagine why.. plus weíre not trying to have more kids.. funny I didnít even think to consider the bc, prob an out of site outta mind type thing. But just wanted give an update and say thanks, your advice was spot on.. sheíll be consulting with our friend from now on.


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    Ya man, I wouldn’t have even thought about that connection and unless a guy in here coaches woman, I doubt anyone would’ve that about that component either. Happy she’s found someone she can consult with. As men, we are simply “problem solvers”...many times to our own detriment!

    Wishing you both the best!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    As men, we are simply ďproblem solversĒ...many times to our own detriment!
    My wife agrees. I just have not told her she is wrong yet, maybe tomorrow

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    My wife is on HRT after we got her labs done a year ago and test levels were very low. Just to give you an idea of what her HRT looks like....
    20mg test cyp weekly sub q
    100mg progesterone daily
    20mg anavar daily run for 60 days then 60 days off.
    She follows the vertical diet and trains 5-6 days a week and always get asked if shes getting ready for a show.
    Good luck but def get a blood test for her first. We use private md labs.
    BTW she is also 34yo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warchild View Post
    My wife is on HRT after we got her labs done a year ago and test levels were very low. Just to give you an idea of what her HRT looks like....
    20mg test cyp weekly sub q
    100mg progesterone daily
    20mg anavar daily run for 60 days then 60 days off.
    She follows the vertical diet and trains 5-6 days a week and always get asked if shes getting ready for a show.
    Good luck but def get a blood test for her first. We use private md labs.
    BTW she is also 34yo.
    Right on thanks for sharing. Itís crazy how many people react so differently then to whatís generally accepted as standard. I would imagine this is even more exaggerated among women. I agree, blood work is key.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Griff579 View Post
    My wife is 34, been lifting on and off for 5yrs. Sheís in good shape and has 4 kids so we are done. First 3 kids were boys and she bounced back quick but after her last pregnancy (our daughter) she is now super effected by estrogen. PMS/bloating etc. Iím 40, cycled numerous times and consider myself educated in Peds. Sheís done Var/clen /t3 a couple of times but is afraid she may react to the Var differently so she wanted to try a different approach. I mentioned a SERM like Nolvadex since it still allows for estro in the liver/joints etc and may help with the bloating. Itís also stimulates LH and FSH along with test. So the libido increase would be appreciated as well. My question is for any females with experience on a SERM, do you think this is a viable option?


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    Hi, female here.

    I think first, your wife should get a complete bloodwork done to get a baseline of where she is at. Hormones are a tricky thing. Pregnancy changes them and our 40's brings about other changes.

    Asking if she's going to well with this or that compound is the million dollar question, especially with females. We really are our own petri dish. I've cycled winni, var, masteron , and masteron with var, and currently cycling NPP. All have given me varying results and not necessarily similar to other females.

    My advice is to pick something in relation to the goals she has, make sure her diet is tight, get bloodwork done periodically throughout her cycle to monitor changes (and when the cycle is done), and go low and slow with dosing. She can always abandon her cycle if it isn't working for her.

    Results and reactions to compounds are different for each person, including dosages.

    Hope this helps.

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