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    Remedy for high blood pressure!!!!

    Which ones do you use to control?

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    U need to b more specific



    Much more specific
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    U need to b more specific



    Much more specific
    Come on so I'm sorry, I'm currently on 50mg of dianabol 20mg in the morning and 30mg before training, and yesterday yesterday I felt sick, measuring my pressure and it was above normal .... I was never hypertensive, I want more be aware of what to do if my blood pressure rises too much because of dianabol ...
    pressure 170/100.

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    Actually, I don't know if it's just dianabol that's fucking my blood pressure because I'm on testosterone cypionate and Deca too ...

    I left my e2 exploded in first 2 weeks of the cycle without using Novaldex and AI .. I think it was not a good idea

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    I'm having constant headaches and tingling in my head, I'm sure this shit is not normal ..... I stopped using dianabol but still I still feel these effects on me very strange ... The numb arms, tingling ... Holy shit I think I'm going to die anytime ..
    God forbid that!!!

    I'm thinking of stopping the use of all steroids to normalize things,I didn't want to interrupt anymore, I have to do this.
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    There are many types of blood pressure medication out there and only a doctor can tell you what to take.

    There is a class of medicines called "ACE inhibitors" and one called "Beta blockers." I take one of each, look up what they do as google can explain it better than I can. We can only get these through a doctor, at least in the US.

    You don't want to play with blood pressure medicine, because skipping doses can mess with your heart rhythm.


    Besides the medicine, you can take some L-Arginine/L-citruline with pycnogenol, and magnesium. Observe how much salt you are eating. Most foods have a lot of hidden salt... never add more salt to foods. Salt = water retention = blood pressure increase.

    Cut out caffeine. Drink some tea instead if you need to.

    I think you are on too much gear... Drop the doses in half. I take 1/3 of what you're taking on a typical cycle. More is not always better.

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    Also, take a baby aspirin every day for a week, then drop to every other day after. If you've been on a cycle or cruising for a long time, you may have a high hemoglobin/hematocrit which means your blood is thick. This can lead to feelings of lethargy, headaches, shortness of breathe... and death if you don't take care of it.

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    Too many variables here to actually recommend anything


    When I was prescribed what I'm on now I was using celery & beet juice at the same time - it dropped my BP so low a few times in the beginning, I got a little worried about a coming stroke - my MD took me off my 3rd med for the same reason. It took a long time for my BP to stabilize - specially after my surgery

    I seen my BP drop into the mid 50's / under 100 - that shit scared me more than the insane BP I seen in ICU, which was 187/104 < all that caused by severe anxiety


    Now, I still chart my BP daily - so far so good. On meds, I'm back to where I was at before I needed the embolization - my BP skyrockets within a 1/2 a day if I miss my meds

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    Dude I'm less than a month on these steroids , I pray that I haven't changed my hematocrit and hemoglobin levels above normal. However, I feel agitated anxiety almost all the time, heart palpitations etc..Samson do you think I should go to a doctor and measure a panel to do an RBC exam to find out more about my case?

    I am not lying, the sensation I have is of stroke every time the veins in my head pulse non-stop and headache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Also, take a baby aspirin every day for a week, then drop to every other day after. If you've been on a cycle or cruising for a long time, you may have a high hemoglobin/hematocrit which means your blood is thick. This can lead to feelings of lethargy, headaches, shortness of breathe... and death if you don't take care of it.
    Got it bro, thanks for the advice. I think I will seek a medical

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    I just measured my BP this 130/80 mm Hg, this now at rest I'm not making any physical effort...If this fuck up more I'm fucked

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    Quote Originally Posted by davimeireles View Post
    Dude I'm less than a month on these steroids , I pray that I haven't changed my hematocrit and hemoglobin levels above normal. However, I feel agitated anxiety almost all the time, heart palpitations etc..Samson do you think I should go to a doctor and measure a panel to do an RBC exam to find out more about my case?

    I am not lying, the sensation I have is of stroke every time the veins in my head pulse non-stop and headache.
    Ur running a big cycle man, shit isnt always smooth sailing and calm seas...

    Try lowering your dose or dropping dbol ...

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    Is this for real? Or?

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    Cut down on the energy drinks.

    Lower your doses.

    Try some AI. (I know you think GH was a genius but the no AI route doesn't work for everyone.)
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    Cialis will lower BP

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    Davi, what’s your BP measurements today? How are your headaches?

    Sending you a PM, since we can’t discuss certain drugs here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    There are many types of blood pressure medication out there and only a doctor can tell you what to take.

    There is a class of medicines called "ACE inhibitors" and one called "Beta blockers." I take one of each, look up what they do as google can explain it better than I can. We can only get these through a doctor, at least in the US.

    You don't want to play with blood pressure medicine, because skipping doses can mess with your heart rhythm.


    Besides the medicine, you can take some L-Arginine/L-citruline with pycnogenol, and magnesium. Observe how much salt you are eating. Most foods have a lot of hidden salt... never add more salt to foods. Salt = water retention = blood pressure increase.

    Cut out caffeine. Drink some tea instead if you need to.

    I think you are on too much gear... Drop the doses in half. I take 1/3 of what you're taking on a typical cycle. More is not always better.
    How can you say he is on too much gear?? He doesn’t even tell you how much test and deca . Or did I miss something??


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    Samson is right. There are too many variables to really diagnose it.
    I will specifically talk about hematocrit. Go to give blood and they check it for free.
    Blood pressure fluctuates and as Cape told me one time that he has had high BP and no worries.
    I ran 170/ 97 at the Dr the other day at the beginning of the consultation. I was 150/83 at the end.
    It sounds like you are like me.... I was freaking out when I got to 150. Dr said, no, I am not going to prescribe meds yet. Do cardio and adjust your diet, and then we will see where you are at.
    Also- size of the cuff can make a difference.

    I am not saying everything is OK, I am just saying calm down and there is a process. Now some people taking gear want to lower the BP and use atenolol. This is not meant for long term Dr prescribed, but is good for short term while on gear.
    If you go to a Dr on gear the. They will prescribe based on the gear (hopefully without knowing), but then when you go off, you have a different condition.

    I freaked out when my AST and ALT were like twice the max. I thought I was doomed and my liver was failing. The Dr said, get it tested in 3 months.

    I am giving you my outlook on this because I have been there, done that.

    If you really feel that you have atrial fibrillation, then I would go see a Dr, however stimulants may do that. I was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation while preparing for a contest and going overboard on stims(T3, caffeine, clen , etc) and after I quit, no longer could find atrial fibrillation however you just may not have it at the time so I can’t get off the prescription.


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    I was on enalipril (lisinopril gave me a chronic cough for 6 months, years ago), but it wasn't working that good. Without medication, my BP was in the 160/105+ range

    Prior to 2016, I was on enalipril and metoprolol and that got my BP in to the 130's.

    As I said, up to now, I currently am on enalipril and my BP was regularly in the 150/88 range. So we're switching course to Norvasc and Carvedilol twice a day starting tomorrow.

    So I can tell you how that goes over the next month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Samson is right. There are too many variables to really diagnose it.
    I will specifically talk about hematocrit. Go to give blood and they check it for free.
    Blood pressure fluctuates and as Cape told me one time that he has had high BP and no worries.
    I ran 170/ 97 at the Dr the other day at the beginning of the consultation. I was 150/83 at the end.
    It sounds like you are like me.... I was freaking out when I got to 150. Dr said, no, I am not going to prescribe meds yet. Do cardio and adjust your diet, and then we will see where you are at.
    Also- size of the cuff can make a difference.

    I am not saying everything is OK, I am just saying calm down and there is a process. Now some people taking gear want to lower the BP and use atenolol. This is not meant for long term Dr prescribed, but is good for short term while on gear.
    If you go to a Dr on gear the. They will prescribe based on the gear (hopefully without knowing), but then when you go off, you have a different condition.

    I freaked out when my AST and ALT were like twice the max. I thought I was doomed and my liver was failing. The Dr said, get it tested in 3 months.

    I am giving you my outlook on this because I have been there, done that.

    If you really feel that you have atrial fibrillation, then I would go see a Dr, however stimulants may do that. I was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation while preparing for a contest and going overboard on stims(T3, caffeine, clen , etc) and after I quit, no longer could find atrial fibrillation however you just may not have it at the time so I can’t get off the prescription.


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    My doctor freaked out when he saw my creatinine levels (1.92 I believe). TBH I didn't realize it takes up to 4 weeks for creatine to clear out of your system. I had stopped taking it 3 days prior to bloodwork. He's wanting to bring a nephrologist in to my situation now

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    How can you say he is on too much gear?? He doesn’t even tell you how much test and deca . Or did I miss something??

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    In another thread he said he’s on like 600 test/ 600 deca / dbol

    Btw I’ve been using atenolol for years, not sure why you say it’s not meant for long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Samson is right. There are too many variables to really diagnose it.
    I will specifically talk about hematocrit. Go to give blood and they check it for free.
    Blood pressure fluctuates and as Cape told me one time that he has had high BP and no worries.
    I ran 170/ 97 at the Dr the other day at the beginning of the consultation. I was 150/83 at the end.
    It sounds like you are like me.... I was freaking out when I got to 150. Dr said, no, I am not going to prescribe meds yet. Do cardio and adjust your diet, and then we will see where you are at.
    Also- size of the cuff can make a difference.

    I am not saying everything is OK, I am just saying calm down and there is a process. Now some people taking gear want to lower the BP and use atenolol. This is not meant for long term Dr prescribed, but is good for short term while on gear.
    If you go to a Dr on gear the. They will prescribe based on the gear (hopefully without knowing), but then when you go off, you have a different condition.

    I freaked out when my AST and ALT were like twice the max. I thought I was doomed and my liver was failing. The Dr said, get it tested in 3 months.

    I am giving you my outlook on this because I have been there, done that.

    If you really feel that you have atrial fibrillation, then I would go see a Dr, however stimulants may do that. I was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation while preparing for a contest and going overboard on stims(T3, caffeine, clen , etc) and after I quit, no longer could find atrial fibrillation however you just may not have it at the time so I can’t get off the prescription.


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    Not f’n around. Not trying to stir the pot. Get a new doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    In another thread he said he’s on like 600 test/ 600 deca / dbol

    Btw I’ve been using atenolol for years, not sure why you say it’s not meant for long term.
    Ok. I was going off this one only.
    My intention was to use it on your own accord for short term and not play Dr. in other words only on cycle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Ok. I was going off this one only.
    My intention was to use it on your own accord for short term and not play Dr. in other words only on cycle.


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    Got ya. I actually have high bp when not on any gear so i take it regardless.
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    A couple hours after my first dose, my blood pressure while laying down was 129/77. As I read, it should take a couple weeks before the beta blocker goes in to full effect.
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    My measurement at this very moment at rest!
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    I stopped using Dianabol and Deca .
    I plan on taking just 100mg of testo a week from now on.

    My headaches subsided and the tingling throughout my body also. But I still feel my heart accelerating fast with training hard.


    I feel breathless when lifting weight at the gym, I'll see if I go to the private doctor next week.


    Currently things have been shit in Brazil due to the wave of covid-19, all states have entered the red risk phase, few doctors are available.
    I'm glad I know a sports doctor from my city, I already sent him a message and he said he will see sometime next week to see me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davimeireles View Post
    My measurement at this very moment at rest!
    Bro that’s perfect BP. Pulse is a little high, that’s all.

    I have the same brand BP monitor. They’re slogan should be “Don’t be a moron, get an Omron”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Bro that’s perfect BP. Pulse is a little high, that’s all.

    I have the same brand BP monitor. They’re slogan should be “Don’t be a moron, get an Omron”
    Good to know bro, I didn’t pay dearly on this monitor and it still has some precision

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    Quote Originally Posted by davimeireles View Post
    Good to know bro, I didn’t pay dearly on this monitor and it still has some precision
    I got the one where the button is beneath the display. It was only like $20 or $30. Does the job pretty good, but goes through batteries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davimeireles View Post
    I stopped using Dianabol and Deca .
    I plan on taking just 100mg of testo a week from now on.

    My headaches subsided and the tingling throughout my body also. But I still feel my heart accelerating fast with training hard.


    I feel breathless when lifting weight at the gym, I'll see if I go to the private doctor next week.


    Currently things have been shit in Brazil due to the wave of covid-19, all states have entered the red risk phase, few doctors are available.
    I'm glad I know a sports doctor from my city, I already sent him a message and he said he will see sometime next week to see me.
    Glad to see those fantastic numbers Davi! Stay safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davimeireles View Post

    Lmao

    Dying

    I barely reach those numbers on meds

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Lmao

    Dying

    I barely reach those numbers on meds
    Same here

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    Not even close here, even with atenolol.

    Only herbal supplements can bring my BP way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davimeireles View Post
    My measurement at this very moment at rest!
    That is why you shouldn’t rush into things. Glad to see it worked out.


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    I don't think hypertension should be self-medicated. If you are near San Francisco or California, see Dr. Lindsay Clark, MD, who deals with internal medicine. I think doctors are better able to figure out what remedies to prescribe than you are. If you are not sure about this clinic or doctor, she has over 18 years of experience in the medical field.
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    My 2 cents I’ve always taken odourless garlic capsules…
    I’ve been on some pretty high doses of gear and I mean high.
    Never has my blood pressure gone over 124/58 even now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxx17 View Post
    I don't think hypertension should be self-medicated. If you are near San Francisco or California, see Dr. Lindsay Clark, MD, who deals with internal medicine. I think doctors are better able to figure out what remedies to prescribe than you are. If you are not sure about this clinic or doctor, she has over 18 years of experience in the medical field.
    To some extent, you can self-treat high blood pressure. Changing your diet and various supplements can make a considerable difference for people. But you're right about medical solutions being left to the professionals. I don't really think you should be name-dropping doctors on a steroid forum, unless they're cool with you doing so (and even then I'm not sure I'd trust a recommendation from some dude I don't even know). Treating high BP is something just about all PCPs can do.
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    I have this question regarding BP:

    If you have steroid induced high blood pressure and you start eating blood pressure meds... what happens when you come off cycle. Is it possible that eating those BP meds can affect you in some way that after you finish the cycle you gonna need meds too to keep BP in check? Body gets used to them or whatever.

    And also.. If you had normal BP before steroids ... can steroids cause you to get hypertension so that even if your not on steroids anymore you will still have high BP(possibly forever)... even tho you had perfect BP before steroids. And how probable is that

    thanks for replys :-)

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