Requesting The Pros For Advice On My 2nd Cycle.... Please Help!

**Last_Ride** · 03-23-2021, 04:23 PM

So, I had finished my 1st cycle of Test E (500mg/wk for 12 weeks) + Anavar (6 weeks @ 50 to 100mg/ED) back in November, 20. I had gained almost 18.3lbs and managed to retain 14.8 of those thanks to PCT + Diet (BF % 12 with great vascularity). I was lucky enough to have not faced any sides during the cycle.

Now, that I have been thinking of my 2nd cycle, I would request the experts to offer their advice on what would be a similarly safe cycle, i.e. gaining lean muscle mass with that hardened look BUT with negligible sides. I can safely rule out harsh compounds like anadrol , tren etc because I have read horror stories about them.

So, in short, what in ur opinion offers similar benefits with negligible sides?

**Test Monsterone** · 03-23-2021, 04:43 PM

Do the same thing again if it worked the first time. There’s no need to switch it up every cycle. Test and Anavar are probably the “safest” in their class of AAS.

**Last_Ride** · 03-24-2021, 04:52 AM

What are your views on Winstrol and Masteron to be specific? How safe are these? I have read that either of these with Test adds lean muscle mass on top of the hardened look.

**Last_Ride** · 03-24-2021, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by Test Monsterone

Do the same thing again if it worked the first time. There’s no need to switch it up every cycle. Test and Anavar are probably the “safest” in their class of AAS.

What are your views on Winstrol and Masteron to be specific? How safe are these? I have read that either of these with Test adds lean muscle mass on top of the hardened look.

**Last_Ride** · 03-24-2021, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by do_what_is_hard

why moving to other conpounds when it is working for you? I'd still do the same cycle or else do Test e + deca. If your body tolerated these roids it doesn't mean that it can take monster like tren easily. AAs must be respected and you must move to higher anabolic and androgenic when everything else is not working ptherwise avoid them at all cost.

Please read my post again. It has been clearly mentioned that harsh AAs are ruled out!
Coming to ur suggestion, I have read about the dreaded "Deca Dick" that many have faced. What are ur views on that?

**Mooseman33** · 03-24-2021, 07:09 AM

first, what are ur stats as of today?

**almostgone** · 03-24-2021, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Last_Ride

Please read my post again. It has been clearly mentioned that harsh AAs are ruled out!
Coming to ur suggestion, I have read about the dreaded "Deca Dick" that many have faced. What are ur views on that?

IMHO, Deca dick isues are overemphasized. Just keep your dose at a reasonable amount and you probably won't have issues. However, it's always smart to keep some Dostinex/Cabergoline on hand just in case. A little goes a long way, so I wouldn't buy more than the the standard .5mg 8 pill bottle.

**Last_Ride** · 03-24-2021, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

first, what are ur stats as of today?

Age - 29
Height - 5ft 8.5 in
Weight - 75kg at 12% BF (Actually, I compete nationally in swimming during Sept - Dec. I have tried staying at 82+ kgs but I feel sluggish and slow at that weight during practice sessions. Hence try to stay in the sub-78kg range)
Goal - To add some lean muscle mass with that hardened look, albeit avoiding the side-effects!

**Last_Ride** · 03-24-2021, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by almostgone

IMHO, Deca dick isues are overemphasized. Just keep your dose at a reasonable amount and you probably won't have issues. However, it's always smart to keep some Dostinex/Cabergoline on hand just in case. A little goes a long way, so I wouldn't buy more than the the standard .5mg 8 pill bottle.

What is a reasonable dose of Deca for a 2nd cycle? 500mg/week or 300mg/week? I have read some advice here that said one should run Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD and Proviron at 50mg ED to keep prolactin levels in check & avoid the deca dick. Is that correct advice? Lastly, what are the side-effects that one can expect while on Deca & is there any way to avoid that?

Please give your valuable insights on these...

**Mooseman33** · 03-24-2021, 02:01 PM

deca dick is very real.

fuck that shit

**Last_Ride** · 03-24-2021, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by do_what_is_hard

winstrol is pretty harsh on joints i would suggest adding deca if you want to run winny. You must also include milk thistle or liv52 to protect your liver.

Thanks a lot for ur advice. Would u recommend Winstrol to someone for a 2nd cycle or should it be avoided?

**Last_Ride** · 03-24-2021, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

deca dick is very real.

fuck that shit

I have posted my stats above. Could you please answer the question at hand? Thanks for ur help

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 03-24-2021, 02:17 PM

If you are trying to stay small then I wouldn't recommend deca .

I agree with the above post that states that if your first cycle worked then no need to fix it.

**almostgone** · 03-24-2021, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by do_what_is_hard

winstrol is pretty harsh on joints i would suggest adding deca if you want to run winny. You must also include milk thistle or liv52 to protect your liver.

I'm sticking with NAC for liver protection/ health. Also, a good antioxidant, and some claim a slight anti-inflammatory.

**Mooseman33** · 03-26-2021, 08:16 AM

run the same chems that u ran on the first, this time adjust ur diet and training.

that will make a huge difference. add some more stuff on the third run.

**Charlie67** · 03-26-2021, 08:50 AM

If I got your results, with no sides, I'd run it again...and again... and again. Until I wasn't getting what I wanted out of it.

But we all know that people want new things to try, so you might look at Primo (methenolone). Very few sides (for me) and works great with Test, but its twice the cost.

Best of luck,
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