Nandrolone Decanoate & Test Cycle Advice

[75 Dogs]

I have been on TRT for a number of years, and am all dialed in and happy at 150mg/week. I also take HCG and an AI, along with cialis.

I've recently been prescribed 90mg Deca per week for a joint issue. Really seems to help, and noticing good progress with muscles.

I'm thinking about increasing Deca to do a cycle and add some bulk.

4 Questions:

1) How much Deca should I use for this purpose? I was thinking 150mg or 200mg/week. Is that too low?

2) Can I just add it to my current TRT protocol like I'm doing with the 90mg Deca now? If not, what would you increase testosterone doses to (again, currently 150mg/week)?

3) Since Deca takes a while to kick in, would you recommend a 12 week cycle...or start out planning to run it for 16 weeks?

4) How long should I wait after finishing 12 weeks of this 90mg Deca to start in with a higher dose?

[DustMan]

1. Whatever amount works, you might have to dial it in like Test. Some people don't get joint relief from Deca, especially if they are running an AI.

2. The 2:1 ratio of Test to Deca is just a common observation amongst people, it's not hard and fast. I'm on equal amounts Test and Deca right now, I have increased libido, not decreased, and no dick problems, and I don't need any AI or SERM. Some people they add a little Deca and their side effects go out of control... you gotta pay attention to your personal response. You might get lucky, maybe 90mg is perfect to add to your 150.

3. You can run it however long you want at low dosages as long as your bloodwork supports it. 150+90 = 240, 240mg is barely a blast, it's more like "Sports" TRT as they call it. Get blood work at 16 weeks and if it looks good you can just keep going.

4. Since your on TRT you don't have to PCT. You can start again whenever you want, as long as it's supported by your blood work (Kidney, Liver, CRP, PSA, BP, etc)

Just as a side note, my knee's, back, and shoulder, have never felt so good since I started on Deca. For me, it works great, but it took about 3 weeks for me to start feeling better.

[75 Dogs]

1. Whatever amount works, you might have to dial it in like Test. Some people don't get joint relief from Deca, especially if they are running an AI.

2. The 2:1 ratio of Test to Deca is just a common observation amongst people, it's not hard and fast. I'm on equal amounts Test and Deca right now, I have increased libido, not decreased, and no dick problems, and I don't need any AI or SERM. Some people they add a little Deca and their side effects go out of control... you gotta pay attention to your personal response. You might get lucky, maybe 90mg is perfect to add to your 150.

3. You can run it however long you want at low dosages as long as your bloodwork supports it. 150+90 = 240, 240mg is barely a blast, it's more like "Sports" TRT as they call it. Get blood work at 16 weeks and if it looks good you can just keep going.

4. Since your on TRT you don't have to PCT. You can start again whenever you want, as long as it's supported by your blood work (Kidney, Liver, CRP, PSA, BP, etc)

Just as a side note, my knee's, back, and shoulder, have never felt so good since I started on Deca. For me, it works great, but it took about 3 weeks for me to start feeling better.

What a thoughtful response, thank you.

I've actually noticed an increase in erections at the 90mg therapeutic dose. And I can't swear if it's time doing the healing, or the deca, but my joint is doing MUCH better about 6 weeks in on the deca.

The reason I'm considering going further with it is I haven't had any negative side effects as of yet, and it feels like I'm just at the bare minimum that would make any difference. I'd like to up it and see what happens. The 1-1 ratio of 150mg each might be a good starting point.

[warchild]

My HRT is 200mgs test & 200mgs deca every 5 days. Averages out to 280mgs of each weekly. Im making good progress at this dose. My labs are good also and normal BP.

[75 Dogs]

My HRT is 200mgs test & 200mgs deca every 5 days. Averages out to 280mgs of each weekly. Im making good progress at this dose. My labs are good also and normal BP.

Thanks for the knowledge.

Can I ask if you feel like you're on "normal" HRT...or does the addition of the Deca make it feel like a cycle? And do you cruise on this year-round?

[warchild]

I feel like im on cycle/blast at that dose. Its the lowest dose I've noticed I can do and still make gains and feel good. I started it a few months ago. I used to blast 400 test with 200 deca but I like experimenting with doses to see how respond. I used to believe in the 2:1 test/deca ratio but found, for me, it doesn't matter and I gain better off higher deca. I cruise on 150 test & 150 deca weekly for a month when I need to do labs 2x a year.

[75 Dogs]

I feel like im on cycle/blast at that dose. Its the lowest dose I've noticed I can do and still make gains and feel good. I started it a few months ago. I used to blast 400 test with 200 deca but I like experimenting with doses to see how respond. I used to believe in the 2:1 test/deca ratio but found, for me, it doesn't matter and I gain better off higher deca. I cruise on 150 test & 150 deca weekly for a month when I need to do labs 2x a year.

Very good info, thank you so much. This was just the type of stuff I was looking to see.

[warchild]

No problem, happy to help. I learned that HRT protocol from Ron Harris over at Muscular Development.

[Hoss34]

I would wait 8 to 12 weeks before starting a new Deca cycle.

My personal preference is Test 500mg and Deca 400mg per week for 16 weeks.