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    do_what_is_hard is offline Junior Member
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    test e + winstrol

    I have planned this for myself
    My stats are:

    weight 72kg
    bf 11-13%
    height 5'8'
    training experience 4.5 years
    age 30
    have done 3 cycles (have used primo, test prop, eq, dianabol )

    My goal is to gain around 6-10kgs of muscle and drop my fat to 9-10%

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    do_what_is_hard is offline Junior Member
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    Consider the cycle with 500mg test

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    use the hCG on weeks 13 and 14
    you may want to hold off on using any AI
    if you are going to start cycle with an AI then don't start the AI until the middle or end of the 2nd week

    You are going to be hard pressed putting on 17.5lbs of muscle while losing 2.5lbs of fat with just one cycle of test and winny.
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    Then should I just cut without lean bulking? I mean I will stay in calorie deficit.
    Or should I drop winny and do a bulk with test e alone or maybe add dianabol too.
    I was thinking about tren e + test e bcz it is easily available but I am too scared of tren e since it is a very harsh compound.

    Need cycle ideas.

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    But in austinite's educational database i read that hcg must be used during cycle as it is like our seat belt. What's the point of using a seatbelt after a car wreck. Any specific reason for adding hcg just on week 13 and 14 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by do_what_is_hard View Post
    But in austinite's educational database i read that hcg must be used during cycle as it is like our seat belt. What's the point of using a seatbelt after a car wreck. Any specific reason for adding hcg just on week 13 and 14 ?
    Use the hCG during your cycle and on weeks 13 and 14.
    You want to use the hCG right up to PCT but not during PCT.

    It keeps your testicles functioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by do_what_is_hard View Post
    Then should I just cut without lean bulking? I mean I will stay in calorie deficit.
    Or should I drop winny and do a bulk with test e alone or maybe add dianabol too.
    I was thinking about tren e + test e bcz it is easily available but I am too scared of tren e since it is a very harsh compound.

    Need cycle ideas.
    Putting on 17.5lbs of muscle while also putting on fat would be hard enough.
    Putting on 17.5lbs of muscle while losing fat is a pipe dream.

    (of course anything is possible with enough gear but...)

    You are not going to put on 17.5lbs of muscle from 500 test.
    8-10lbs would be impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Putting on 17.5lbs of muscle while also putting on fat would be hard enough.
    Putting on 17.5lbs of muscle while losing fat is a pipe dream.

    (of course anything is possible with enough gear but...)

    You are not going to put on 17.5lbs of muscle from 500 test.
    8-10lbs would be impressive.
    I think I should opt for a single goal and that would be lean bulking.

    What should I do for a bulk cycle? Should I drop Winny and add Dianabol (20mg) in the first four weeks as a kick start? But since I am prone to gyno and test and Dianabol both cause gyno will the AI dose be the same for me?

    Please suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by do_what_is_hard View Post
    I think I should opt for a single goal and that would be lean bulking.

    What should I do for a bulk cycle? Should I drop Winny and add Dianabol (20mg) in the first four weeks as a kick start? But since I am prone to gyno and test and Dianabol both cause gyno will the AI dose be the same for me?

    Please suggest.
    Test E + Deca is a good bulking pair. Maybe some dbol to kickstart the cycle, but I really think it's unnecessary. And actually it might upset your stomach and give you nausea to the point where it could interfere with your ability to eat enough food. As far as your adex goes (and if you decide with a 19nor, caber too), I wouldn't schedule a dosage of it persay. I'd rather take it as needed. You'll grow better if you're a little high on the estrogen. When you crash it out, you'll dry yourself out a bit and that's counterproductive (in addition to it making you feel like shit).

    Diet is the most important part of your cycle though. You won't grow much without lots of food.
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    Is this okay now?
    week 1-12 test e @ 500mg
    week 3-6 Dianabol @ 20/30/40/20 ed
    week 1-14 HCG @ 250IU every 3.5 days
    week 3-14 Arimidex @ 0.5mg eod
    week 15-18 Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
    week 15-18 Clomid 100/50/50/50
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