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Thread: Cutting cycle to gain mass and lose fat at the same time - OPINIONS

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    Cutting cycle to gain mass and lose fat at the same time - OPINIONS

    Is it really possible? I'm so skeptical.

    Hi folks.
    My trainer just advice me to follow this cycle:

    1cc test E every othe day
    1cc winstrol injected (or 50mg tablets) every other day
    1cc masteron propionate every other day

    My stats are:
    204 lbs, 5'11
    Body fat is high but mostly accumulated in my gut and lovehandlers

    Thanks.

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    You should ask your trainer to explain the mechanisms and the reasoning behind the cycle he proposed for you..

    A recomp is def a possible thing. Lose some body fat while maintaining your current muscle mass, and develop key areas you’re trying to improve.

    Since he’s your trainer, he should have laid out a diet for you to go along side this cycle to take full advantage of it.

    You may or may not catch a lot of heat indirectly because of you’re trainer. Lol but you def came to the right place for the right advice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krb367 View Post
    You should ask your trainer to explain the mechanisms and the reasoning behind the cycle he proposed for you..

    A recomp is def a possible thing. Lose some body fat while maintaining your current muscle mass, and develop key areas you’re trying to improve.

    Since he’s your trainer, he should have laid out a diet for you to go along side this cycle to take full advantage of it.

    You may or may not catch a lot of heat indirectly because of you’re trainer. Lol but you def came to the right place for the right advice
    He provided the diet for me already. So that's not a problem.

    I always like hearing different opinions.

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    Have you ever run gear before?
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    What are the doses on your specified drugs per ml? One CC doesn't mean much. We can assume the Test E is at 250mg / ml (though it could be 200mg or 400mg). The Mast P is probably 100mg / ml, but don't leave us guessing if you want good input.

    What did your trainer say about HCG and AI?

    And to echo @TheDeadliftingDog, is this your first cycle? If so, it is way too much, though that does depend on the mg per ml question above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Have you ever run gear before?
    Yes, I finished my first cycle 4 weeks ago. I only used test. No gyno nor secondary effects. Also, no ptc. My trainer says is not needed now. I was skeptical about it but it looks like you can do it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    What are the doses on your specified drugs per ml? One CC doesn't mean much. We can assume the Test E is at 250mg / ml (though it could be 200mg or 400mg). The Mast P is probably 100mg / ml, but don't leave us guessing if you want good input.

    What did your trainer say about HCG and AI?

    And to echo @TheDeadliftingDog, is this your first cycle? If so, it is way too much, though that does depend on the mg per ml question above.
    He told me I didn't need hgc. I have clomid and arimidex on hand but he says the latter is better. 1cc us 250mg for both mast and test according to him. I have winstrol in tablets but I don't want to take them because I heard they are toxic (I'm trying to get the injectable version). My liver protector is going to be delivered this week

    I ran test for 12 weeks this winter btw. (500mg a week,). No ptc like I said but hgc in the last 6 weeks. My testicles haven't gone back to normal in size but my sex drive is normal.
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    Well that settles it...

    We all thought that TheDreamer was a troll and now we know.

    Please note that the thread was started by a guy named DaReal and after two posts by DaReal...
    TheDreamer posts the next two posts.

    Seems to me that TheDreamer created a second account and accidently logged into the wrong one.

    Or...

    He is answering questions for another account.

    Either way he is trolling.
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    Lol. Caught red handed

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Well that settles it...

    We all thought that TheDreamer was a troll and now we know.

    Please note that the thread was started by a guy named DaReal and after two posts by DaReal...
    TheDreamer posts the next two posts.

    Seems to me that TheDreamer created a second account and accidently logged into the wrong one.

    Or...

    He is answering questions for another account.

    Either way he is trolling.
    Yes its me. But I'm NOT trolling. I'm genuinely asking the question. I do have a trainer and he gave this cycle.

    The reason why I made another account is because you guys accuse me of being a troll and don't want to help me out anymore. I get ignored. Again, I AM NOT TROLLING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaReal View Post
    Yes its me. But I'm NOT trolling. I'm genuinely asking the question. I do have a trainer and he gave this cycle.

    The reason why I made another account is because you guys accuse me of being a troll and don't want to help me out anymore. I get ignored. Again, I AM NOT TROLLING.
    You need some help. Seriously. Get help.

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    Everyone...
    TheDreamer has done 1 cycle...
    He has started 44 threads about it...

    including such delights as...
    How much is 1ml in a syringe?...
    My aromasin comes in 15mg capsules...
    I accidently told my doctor I was on steroids ...
    and everyone's favorite...
    I ran out of syringes and need to pin tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDreamer View Post
    Yes its me. But I'm NOT trolling. I'm genuinely asking the question. I do have a trainer and he gave this cycle.

    The reason why I made another account is because you guys accuse me of being a troll and don't want to help me out anymore. I get ignored. Again, I AM NOT TROLLING.
    Suck it up buttercup...

    I have merged your accounts... If you have issues with information given to you then maybe this is not the place for you... if you have issues because you feel someone is unfair to you then you should contact me to get it taken care of if it is a legit claim... you do not just make another account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Everyone...
    TheDreamer has done 1 cycle...
    He has started 44 threads about it...

    including such delights as...
    How much is 1ml in a syringe?...
    My aromasin comes in 15mg capsules...
    I accidently told my doctor I was on steroids ...
    and everyone's favorite...
    I ran out of syringes and need to pin tonight.
    Oh man, those gems are a blast from the not so distant past. We need a greatest hits collection!

    Good eye on the catch BTW.

    Oh and also, looking a bit hulkish in the new avi, dude!
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    So, this is what I missed while I was away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    So, this is what I missed while I was away?
    This just means you can never go away again.
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    With some of those posts, I really hope he was trolling.
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    All I wanted was help from you guys. You are ignoring all my threads for no reason. I am not a troll.

    Now I will need to register on another board. People don't take me seriously here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    With some of those posts, I really hope he was trolling.
    No it's real. That's my current cutting cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDreamer View Post
    All I wanted was help from you guys. You are ignoring all my threads for no reason. I am not a troll.

    Now I will need to register on another board. People don't take me seriously here.
    Start acting seriously and you will be treated as such.

    We DID take you seriously to start with but you consistently demonstrate behavior that indicates one of two things:

    Either you are in fact trolling
    - or -
    You are unwilling to do even the basic reading to answer questions that are already answered.

    As an example, your original post here listed doses in CCs only. WTH, man. You should know by now that doesn't mean much. Why do we have to keep asking the same questions? Heck, why WOULD we keep asking the same questions? Get your act together, put forth some effort and quit acting like anybody here owes you anything.

    Basically, quit acting like a spoiled brat.

    And I can assure you, the people on some of the other boards will fall on you like a ton of bricks if you behave the same way there that you have here. No one has been overly harsh here, some other places you will be blasted. Get your asbestos underwear ready, bub, cause you will be set on full burn.

    I say all that in the assumption that you are not a troll. If you are, congrats, you got the last 10 minutes of my time. If you aren't, think very carefully about your next post. That will determine a lot about what we think of you going forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Start acting seriously and you will be treated as such.

    We DID take you seriously to start with but you consistently demonstrate behavior that indicates one of two things:

    Either you are in fact trolling
    - or -
    You are unwilling to do even the basic reading to answer questions that are already answered.

    As an example, your original post here listed doses in CCs only. WTH, man. You should know by now that doesn't mean much. Why do we have to keep asking the same questions? Heck, why WOULD we keep asking the same questions? Get your act together, put forth some effort and quit acting like anybody here owes you anything.

    Basically, quit acting like a spoiled brat.

    And I can assure you, the people on some of the other boards will fall on you like a ton of bricks if you behave the same way there that you have here. No one has been overly harsh here, some other places you will be blasted. Get your asbestos underwear ready, bub, cause you will be set on full burn.

    I say all that in the assumption that you are not a troll. If you are, congrats, you got the last 10 minutes of my time. If you aren't, think very carefully about your next post. That will determine a lot about what we think of you going forward.
    Anyways... What do think of this cycle? I did 11 weeks of test, stayed off for 4, didn't do pct and started cutting with this one. My trainer says I can do the pct after I'm done but I'm a bit scared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDreamer View Post
    Anyways... What do think of this cycle? I did 11 weeks of test, stayed off for 4, didn't do pct and started cutting with this one. My trainer says I can do the pct after I'm done but I'm a bit scared.

    Why keep fucking asking for help, you’re just gonna do what your “trainer” says anyway. I think everyone is pretty much done with you here unfortunately you have hung yourself out to dry bud. Good luck with life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Why keep fucking asking for help, you’re just gonna do what your “trainer” says anyway. I think everyone is pretty much done with you here unfortunately you have hung yourself out to dry bud. Good luck with life.
    Because I want a second opinion. It's my health and I'm new at this.

    Some of you guys take this too serious. No need to be sooo damn rude. It's almost offensive at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krb367 View Post
    You should ask your trainer to explain the mechanisms and the reasoning behind the cycle he proposed for you..

    A recomp is def a possible thing. Lose some body fat while maintaining your current muscle mass, and develop key areas you’re trying to improve.

    Since he’s your trainer, he should have laid out a diet for you to go along side this cycle to take full advantage of it.

    You may or may not catch a lot of heat indirectly because of you’re trainer. Lol but you def came to the right place for the right advice
    OP, this was really all the response you needed.

    Ask your trainer why each compound is there. What purpose does it serve for YOU. Also ask why no hcg , then compare that to what is found in the various stickies.

    If the trainer can't answer those questions properly, you're screwed. If you do what he advises anyhow, you're probably screwed.

    And absolutely for sure, if you keep skipping leg day, you're screwed.

    That said, do whatever you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDreamer View Post
    Because I want a second opinion. It's my health and I'm new at this.

    Some of you guys take this too serious. No need to be sooo damn rude. It's almost offensive at this point.
    I tried to be polite and help you at several points. You in return created more accounts and on top of that skipped leg day (who the fock does that anyway?). Now, you have overstayed your welcome and I doubt you’ll get anymore productive responses. Good luck with life and all that jazz….
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDreamer View Post
    Because I want a second opinion. It's my health and I'm new at this.

    Some of you guys take this too serious. No need to be sooo damn rude. It's almost offensive at this point.
    What's the point of a second opinion when you're only going to do what that retarded "trainer" tells you to do?

    Your trolls get old man.

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    Omg now y'all are coming for me like hyenas.

    A second opinion is always welcome. Why would you make a deal for asking for one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    OP, this was really all the response you needed.

    Ask your trainer why each compound is there. What purpose does it serve for YOU. Also ask why no hcg , then compare that to what is found in the various stickies.

    If the trainer can't answer those questions properly, you're screwed. If you do what he advises anyhow, you're probably screwed.

    And absolutely for sure, if you keep skipping leg day, you're screwed.

    That said, do whatever you want.
    He is a certified trainer. It costed me 200 bucks to hire him. It just seems like there is so much contradicting information online and I just wanted to double check.

    That being, yes, that one you quoted was probably the best answer. Thanks for highlighting.

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    Understood. I'm leaving the board. It's way too obvious that I'm not liked here and that's totally fine!!

    Thanks you so much the ones that helped me out responding. Thanks fit_deskjocky. You were very nice when I interacted with you as well.

    The other ones that bullied me and were rude to me for no reason can choke.

    It was a pleasure,
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