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Thread: Saying Farewell with Pink Hearts. Dbol only cycle(s) w/ anti Estrogen vit, Liv.52 &..

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    Saying Farewell with Pink Hearts. Dbol only cycle(s) w/ anti Estrogen vit, Liv.52 &..

    Saying Farewell with Pink Hearts. Dbol only cycle(s) w/ anti Estrogen vit, Liv.52 &...

    and.... Tribulus Testosterone Booster

    I've been away back now.... the PCT sent to another address by my regular connect

    was reimbursed successfully with Dianabol x 10 mg, the pink hearts...the exact brand? Geneza GP Methan 10 x 100 tabs

    I'm going to say farewell...some of you may know, I've been 1 of the clumsy Unlucky few who has had a bad abcess in 2012 in my glute, if things had not gone right, it could have ate its way to my spine causing paralysis, not to mention the embarrasment of having to go there every 4-7 days to drain my butt cheek etc with a doctor who well they don't look to kindly on having to do this....

    So, after pinning my pecs....and coughing on 1 cycle too many times because of nicking a vein

    and after some other health scares and recommendations here and elsewhere, I decided go go natural.... except when the connect who lost my PCT anti-Estrogen medication, decided to Send Me For Free D-bol pink hearts 100 of 'em x 10 mgs....

    I know they're not the Blue ones which are like the bomb diggity....of the dbol world

    but so, here's my proposed 2 Cycles:

    I know, this would apply to wait till you learn how to IM inject for newbies and others who are afraid of needles, but let's assume

    Let us assume, *if you had to do, do Only a D-bol Cycle * without the hey don't do it

    How does this Proposal look like ? ....

    2 CYCLES EACH SPACED 6 MONTHS APART


    3 WEEKS EACH OR 21 DAYS

    1ST: 21 DAYS X 2 PER DAY = 42 COUNT (20 MGS OF D-BOL PER DAY)

    DURING THIS CYCLE...I'D POP 3 LIV. 52 HIMALAYA LIVER SUPPORT

    DURING CYCLE: I'D POP TRIBULUS TESTOSTERONE BOOSTER

    THEN AFTER THE 3 WEEK CYCLE IS OVER

    P.C.T.


    30 DAYS OF "ESTREDUXHP" (SIMILAR TO ESTRO-VOID) BY VH NUTRITION

    30 DAYS OF LIV.52

    30 DAYS OF TRIBULUS TESTOSTERONE BOOSTER TO GET THE NATURAL TESTOSTERONE WORKING AGAIN



    2ND BICYCLE: 21 DAYS X 2.5 TO 3 TABS PER DAY = 53 COUNT

    42 PLUS 53 = 95 TOTAL (U GOT 5 TO SPARE FOR 3 TABS PER DAY)

    I'M JUST HOPING THE 20 MG'S OF D-BOL GETS MY RED BLOOD CELL PRODUCTION WORKING AND MOTIVATES ME *or Jump Starts my batteryTO GET BACK AFTER *Lifting for the Summer of 2021 after... SOME TIME OFF.

    *Basically what I'm looking for is Confirmation if this 3 weeks of 20 mgs of D-bol only cycle is something that would work? Albeit, maybe work only a little bit?

    Thanks in advance for any constuctive help

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    Ultimately, the best decision is almost always to not take any steroids . 3 weeks of dbol would be pointless. Your goal is to be healthy, so what’s 3 weeks of gaining water and throwing off your HPTA gonna do? It’ll be over before it starts.

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    In short: this sounds like an interesting experiment, though I would change out some of the OTC compounds.

    In more detail, and considering it only from the perspective of an experiment:

    When it comes to plans like this, I like to look at the originally prescribed purpose of a compound. According to the profile of the drug on this site, it was almost from day one a pure performance enhancer. That makes me think you could get some benefit from it solo.

    BUT 3 weeks is probably not enough time to get anything going. You COULD extend the cycle to 6 weeks BUT that increases the risk of sides. Not to mention you probably won't feel very good being suppressed for that long. If you did want to extend the cycle tho....

    I have found Trib to be almost worthless, but that is just one man's experience. If you were going to do this, I would recommend some Longjack and Mucuna Pruriens either instead of or in addition to the trib. Heck, maybe even add in some DAA and boron. To this day, I can tell when I'm using one of those first three compounds and the best I have felt in the last 10 years was in my pre HRT days on LJ and Mucuna. That was indirectly what turned me to 'the dark side'.

    Supplements of this nature tend to work best in men that are suffering from secondary hypogonadism. There is some evidence that they either behave like or cause the release of LH... Don't just take my word on that, it has been a while since I did the digging. I can say that I believe longjack reduces SHBG in one way or another. At any rate, I believe the shutdown that would occur from a dbol only cycle would be similar to what a man might experience in secondary hypo. I'm not suggesting that these OTC products will overpower the shutdown, just that they might help.

    There are stories of people that have used SERMs to greatly reduce (some claim cancel out entirely) the suppression from SARMs cycles. That might be an option. But D-bol is a legit AAS, and even the best SARM falls short of its track record (would be happy to find out differently).

    Would you be running estrogen control during cycle?

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    Don't do an oral only cycle, because you're scared of needles. If you're hell-bent on doing gear, talk yourself in to injecting. Everybody is scared the first time, it gets easy after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuyResearcher View Post
    I'm going to say farewell...some of you may know, I've been 1 of the clumsy Unlucky few who has had a bad abcess in 2012 in my glute, if things had not gone right, it could have ate its way to my spine causing paralysis, not to mention the embarrasment of having to go there every 4-7 days to drain my butt cheek etc with a doctor who well they don't look to kindly on having to do this....
    I had dengue fever while injecting and got a very bad infection. Had surgery to get it drained but got a pretty serious scar from that accident. I think that happened in 2018 (got some old pictures here posted somewhere). My point being is that I learned from that and moved on. You have had, what, 9-years to recover from this and if you do not feel ready to take the jump again I would seriously consider not using AAS again. People who used dbol only had specific goals. Maybe an upcoming competition and what not. That would mean that temporarily increasing strength and size is ok. Not fully understanding how it would benefit you in this scenario but maybe I am missing what your goal is?

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    Last year I did an oral-only cycle of dbol and var. I had already been taking the var by itself, and then I added the dbol in later. Within 2 or 3 days of the dbol, I was noticeably stronger when I went to lift dumbells for my shoulders.

    You'll get away without supplementing Testosterone for a few weeks (maybe even 2+ months if you're only taking Var), but if you really are so adverse to injecting, just swallow the testosterone instead of injecting it, the product you want is 'Jatenzo':

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...refixedContent
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    Thanks for your answers.

    The aim is to just jump start my workout after a period of resting from a mild lower back pain injury

    Sort of like jump start my battery for the summer

    I would not run anti- Estrogen on-cycle, many of the old school bodybuilders in the early & mid 1970's hardly ran any kind of pct or anti-Estrogen from what I recall off hand, from memory

    plus they would also eat steak and lots of regular milk, too

    anyway, imagine you quit pot...and you suddenly found a bag of Sativa (the energy kind) after having quit for a while, and you needed to finish a project....

    so instead of throwing it away, you use it to help energize you for the project

    That's the analogy I compare it to

    I'm will be 50 years old this year, I'm definitely not returning to A.A.S., I just want to finish this bag of 100 d-bol bills x 10 mg and constructively use it, instead of throwing it away, etc.

    Thanks again

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    Waste of time & effort


    I can't see it do anything positive whatsoever



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    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuyResearcher View Post
    I'm will be 50 years old this year, I'm definitely not returning to A.A.S., I just want to finish this bag of 100 d-bol bills x 10 mg and constructively use it, instead of throwing it away, etc.
    Don't you think that the person who offered you those pills has a lot of control over you?

    So, if I wanted to manipulate you into going hunting with a crossbow, I'd only need to leave a crossbow and a few arrows on your doorstep, ring the doorbell and run away.

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    Sounds like the source compensated with the cheapest possible option he could choose and left you out to twist in the wind.

    Honestly, 3 week runs of 20-30mg of d'bol is going to give you all of the sides and none of the benefits. It's just me, but that's a less than ideal PCT.

    So, you're looking at 2 sub-par cycles and 2 sub-par PCTs. Not trying to be an a-hole, but I wouldn't even walk down that road.
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    I remember that was my 1st post ever on any roid board - “can I just eat dBol ” < sure, but it’ll suck ass & not do shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuyResearcher View Post
    Thanks for your answers.

    The aim is to just jump start my workout after a period of resting from a mild lower back pain injury

    Sort of like jump start my battery for the summer

    I would not run anti- Estrogen on-cycle, many of the old school bodybuilders in the early & mid 1970's hardly ran any kind of pct or anti-Estrogen from what I recall off hand, from memory

    plus they would also eat steak and lots of regular milk, too

    anyway, imagine you quit pot...and you suddenly found a bag of Sativa (the energy kind) after having quit for a while, and you needed to finish a project....

    so instead of throwing it away, you use it to help energize you for the project

    That's the analogy I compare it to

    I'm will be 50 years old this year, I'm definitely not returning to A.A.S., I just want to finish this bag of 100 d-bol bills x 10 mg and constructively use it, instead of throwing it away, etc.

    Thanks again
    The back pumps it'll give you will make your back injury feel even worse. If I were you, I'd just flush the bag of pills. It's not going to benefit you.

    But whatever. You're the one who has to live with the consequences.
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    What if I go ahead and buy one 10 ml vial of 250 mgs of Test E. ?
    What if I then purchased Nolvadex 2o mgs x 30 count?
    What if I bought Arimidex 0.25 mg's?


    then I'd start the dbol x 20 mgs per day right after my 1st Test E. shot and then stop the dbol 4 weeks later

    while continuing the Test E. for 10 weeks at 250 mgs per week into the Pec muscles (alternating pecs of course)

    and PCT Novladex 20 mgs x 20 count for 20 days (almost a 21 day 3 week) after my cycle is done and do some high quality natural Longjack, Tribulus, Muriens Testosterone booster , both on and after cycle

    and Arimidex .025 every day (they come in like bigger sizes, but you have to quarter break the pill to 0.25 per day) on cycle

    and do the liv.52 throughout the cycle and during pct along with milk thistle

    *so in essence, what if I buy the "tools" to make this just a Standard Elementary Bare Bones Cycle?
    that would wake my psychologically depressed, sleep-addicted butt and at least on a placebo / pharmaceutical level, I can get back to working out again

    that would not be a waste of time and effort and money right?

    honestly, i hit a motivational rut and just want to snap out of it... (thanks)
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    If you're 61 then even a low-to-medium dose of Testosterone should make you feel like you're 16 again.

    Can't go wrong with two shots of Testosterone per week (250mg per shot). You don't need all the other stuff.

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    I decided just now Monday 5/31/2021 to throw

    the contents of the entire packet in my toilet bowl

    it was a hard decison.

    made my toilet bowl pink for a few flushes.

    yeah, I'm never going back to a.a.s., it's all natural

    after that health scare in around January 2021, I made the decision and then got a Clean Bill of Health-- I need to be disciplined and not tinker or mess with that

    Thanks for all your experienced help, especially Honkey Tonk, Almost Gone, Sampson & Test Monsterone and Ceylon

    (I did buy Fish Oil to help with heart health & Murien and Long Jack for Energy & Natural Testosterone Production, so much shout out to Ceylon; thankful to you, because these are good vitamins etc., during a Natural bodybuilding career)

    thanks again
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    Hope you find what you’re looking for. Health is number one, after all the dust settles. Muscles don’t mean anything when your health ain’t right. Good luck man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuyResearcher View Post
    yeah, I'm never going back to a.a.s., it's all natural
    The transition back to auto-endocrinology is really streamlined with a regular yogic practise (e.g. 2 yoga classes a week).
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuyResearcher View Post
    I decided just now Monday 5/31/2021 to throw

    the contents of the entire packet in my toilet bowl

    it was a hard decison.

    made my toilet bowl pink for a few flushes.

    yeah, I'm never going back to a.a.s., it's all natural

    after that health scare in around January 2021, I made the decision and then got a Clean Bill of Health-- I need to be disciplined and not tinker or mess with that

    Thanks for all your experienced help, especially Honkey Tonk, Almost Gone, Sampson & Test Monsterone and Ceylon

    (I did buy Fish Oil to help with heart health & Murien and Long Jack for Energy & Natural Testosterone Production, so much shout out to Ceylon; thankful to you, because these are good vitamins etc., during a Natural bodybuilding career)

    thanks again
    I think everybody will agree you made the right decision with this.

    At your age, if you want to combat the effects of low t, talk to your doctor, get some blood work done. You might be a candidate for TRT. And you might be able to get your insurance to pay for it too.

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