Can you take Anadrol with Cancer???

[FinaKat]

How goes it everyone. Been a member here for a minute. Coming back for a random question but my time is seemingly running out

Stats:
6'0"
230lb
10% bodyfat
33 years old
Many cycles underbelt
Been cruising on Test Cyp @ 500mg/wk for 4 years

I was recently diagnosed (4 weeks ago) with Stage 4 stomach cancer. It's genetic, runs in My family. I have ascites (fluid buildup in the abdomen) not from cirrhosis but as a side effect of the tumor itself.

The cancer has already metastasized to the peritoneum & oncologist told Me it's incurable, inoperable. Prognosis was 1 to 2 years (with chemo)

I have lost a considerable amount of weight from the cancer and experience also a degree of muscle waste, fatigue, nausea, etc.

The gym is the only thing and the exercise I can get that keeps me moving forward and is giving me hope at this point. I start chemo therapy next week

I have some Anadrol /Winstrol (50mg Ana/25mg Win) pills left over from the last time I ran a short cycle with them in the fall. I took one the other day and it gave me alot of energy, boosted my mood, and added some immediate size to me

I haven't taken any since then as I got scared at what that might have an interaction with my cancer (will it kill my liver faster? will it destroy my kidneys and other organs quicker)

But God damn I would love a 2 week or so cycle with these babies for the pick me up & get me back in my groove about being more diligent about working out and putting forward my all. Not that I don't now. Just in a dark place and curious if anyone knew anything

[tarmyg]

I’m really sorry to hear this. Can’t say I got much advice but you could always ask the doctor. Not like you got much to lose.

Again, really sorry to hear this.

[Testie]

Prayers for you and your family my Brother

[Honkey_Kong]

If you're already suffering from nausea and fatigue, you probably don't want to take anadrol or any oral steroid .

In fact, you probably should talk to you doctor about the test you're cruising on and make sure the cancer you have isn't accelerated by the hormones.

[Cuz]

Prayers for you sir. Saddened to hear this, im curious if your doc is aware of the 500 test cruise? Stay strong..

[Dgs59]

So sorry to hear that mate.

[< <Samson> >]

Well,

Very sorry to hear, even if I don’t kno ya


What can u do - shit, I dunno. . . As long as you physically feel semi ok & understand what is going on - do whatever the fuck you want


All roids can/will accelerate cancerous growth(from what I know at least)


So sorry to hear -


It’s like when my head blew - daum, that sucks. Lol

By nothing short of a miracle, my juicer ass is still kicking - and, dang near just fine


I can only wish you the same luck I have

[Test Monsterone]

Whatever you want to do, do it. If it gives you the motivation to get up and persevere, as long as it’s not harming anyone, then I don’t see why you shouldn’t do it. If you start feeling worse from it, stop taking it. Try something else. Any of us can go, at anytime, brother. You just were given an ETA, but who knows what life has in store for us or you. Never lose hope and never give up until there are no roads left and there’s nowhere left to go.

[paulzane]

Whatever you want to do, do it. If it gives you the motivation to get up and persevere, as long as it’s not harming anyone, then I don’t see why you shouldn’t do it. If you start feeling worse from it, stop taking it. Try something else. Any of us can go, at anytime, brother. You just were given an ETA, but who knows what life has in store for us or you. Never lose hope and never give up until there are no roads left and there’s nowhere left to go.

Couldn't agree more .... Good luck to you mate and do what keeps you happy!

[< <Samson> >]

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis.

Two ways you can approach it.

1 - get conservative as hell on dosing and drugs, research peptides and alternative treatment and end up proving the docs wrong.

2 - say to hell with it, if I'm going, I'm going out in style. Run every compound you ever wanted to, though still maybe not all at once. If your ticket really is punched, it is punched. Go out on your terms.

Man, I do not know what the right answer is. I could definitely understand choosing either path, or something else entirely.

Completely agreed on both

After being there - then back

I still don’t know what to say. . . Life is quite precious, but when our true health shits out - it’s the pits

I don’t know exactly what made me so special. I still really don’t - no one, including my neurosurgeons could predict the outcome. Here I am, almost a year later.

I gave up multiple times & just kept waking up. From the over dose to the hemorrhage itself - no one thought I’d pull through at 100% or even close. Well, I am darn near close - considering I’m working out in 110 degree temps & still run circles around 95% of punks 1/2 my age.

[Honkey_Kong]

If I were you, I'd go with Cylon's first option and try to beat the cancer. There are stories all over the internet of people who didn't want to listen to the doctor's death sentence and went out there and found something that got them cured (or in remission).

Regardless of what you decide to do, I think you should go take a nice vacation somewhere first.

[FinaKat]

Prayers for you sir. Saddened to hear this, im curious if your doc is aware of the 500 test cruise? Stay strong..

He is. All doctors + any providers present in recent ER visits are aware of the 500mg cruise recreational administration

None have commented on that interacting with cancer

[FinaKat]

If I were you, I'd go with Cylon's first option and try to beat the cancer. There are stories all over the internet of people who didn't want to listen to the doctor's death sentence and went out there and found something that got them cured (or in remission).

Regardless of what you decide to do, I think you should go take a nice vacation somewhere first.

I'm Busting my ass doing everything I can to beat it, and yes thank you for that advice. I've changed My diet completely, taking all my meds for nausea (as well as morphine to get through those tough days with pain/nausea/lack of appetite)

I'm starting chemo this week

Keep in mind one of the attractive things is that anadrol can increase those red blood cells that chemo is known to fuck with

[Honkey_Kong]

I'm Busting my ass doing everything I can to beat it, and yes thank you for that advice. I've changed My diet completely, taking all my meds for nausea (as well as morphine to get through those tough days with pain/nausea/lack of appetite)

I'm starting chemo this week

Keep in mind one of the attractive things is that anadrol can increase those red blood cells that chemo is known to fuck with

Anadrol makes people who are totally healthy feel like shit. You already feel like shit with the nausea and fatigue, it'll make it worse. You'd be better off using other injectables instead.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

Have you only gotten one doctor's opinion?

I think in a situation like yours, I'd like to go to another doctor 200 miles away and say to him:

I've been diagnosed with stomach cancer, but that's all I want to tell you. I don't want to share with you my other doctor's diagnosis or prognosis, I want you to do your own tests and come to your own conclusions.

Misdiagnoses and unrealistic prognoses happen from time to time. Even the best of the best get it wrong very badly once or twice a year.

At the very least I'd want two doctors working independently who've never met each other to both tell me I've 1 - 2 years left before I'd start planning.

[Honkey_Kong]

Kimbo, I assume he's had a second opinion already.

I've never met somebody before who gets a diagnosis/prognosis like this and was like "fvuk it, I'm gonna do a lot of gear" before.

[SampsonandDelilah]

This is breaking my heart. Stay on your cruise and look at another oral that won’t leave you feeling like dog shit. Chemo is going to suck, trust me.

The nausea and the mouth sores are no joke, you don’t want anything else that’s notorious for leaving you lethargic.

Maybe look at some MK 677 and some Dbol , one to help with appetite and the other to help hold water.

What state are you in? Do you have access to edible THC? A heavy indica will help with hunger and nausea.

I’ve been battling for the last year.

PM me if you want to chat.

Stay fucking strong, for yourself and those around you. Give yourself all the grace you can.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Glad you are back!

I was thinking maybe staying away from anything growth hormone related.... GH doesn't discriminate: it will grow cancer cells just like healthy ones. But, I haven't been through the wringer like you have and experience is one hell of a teacher!

Thank you Cylon, truly.

There’s a misnomer that test and GH lead to an increase in the aggregation of malignant cells. There were a few studies that showed an acceleration of cancerous cells that were fueled by an increase in elevated hormones. It’s a bit of a sticky spot, at least I what I learned during my journey. Most of that data had to do with what’s called squamous cell carcinomas and even then the results were mixed.

Of course it lends to an increase in caution but there is a risk and reward ratio. In my case, my docs were ok with staying on test as holding mass was important to me and to my physicians. So many cancer patients are prescribed AAS for these exact reasons. When it comes to GH, they aren’t often utilized due their being slow acting and there just isn’t an real studies done with them in that patient population. MK is really slow to accelerate tissue growth, however the activation of the gherlin hormone happens rather quickly resulting in an increase in appetite. For the OP, that will be huge.

I definitely recommend running it by your care team, but don’t be surprised when they have no idea what you’re talking about. You’d be amazed by how little they know when it comes to this world.

Case in point, my liver and kidney values were through the roof due to radiation and I single handedly reduced them by taking NAC, they had no clue that supplement would have the impact it did and I skipped my way out of a nephrology meeting simply by adding NAC to my regimen.

My point is that we know more than them when it come to these compounds.

OP, eating is going to become extremely difficult. Your renal functions will be taxed too which frightens me about the d bol recommendation but stay on top of your labs and take the necessary support items to help your system and you can just touch and go. Orals are gonna be extremely taxing. Maybe start with some Deca to help hold some mass as well. I ran 200 during my treatments…I also went from 265 down to 235.

Drinking your calories will be huge too. The gym and this board were a really nice escape from the realities of what I was up against. Find solace where you can.

Again, if you want to chat I’m here and remember to be graceful with yourself.

Thoughts and prayers

[Hiphopharry]

Glad you are back!

I was thinking maybe staying away from anything growth hormone related.... GH doesn't discriminate: it will grow cancer cells just like healthy ones. But, I haven't been through the wringer like you have and experience is one hell of a teacher!

I agree !

Short story based on my cancer ‘death sentence’
Diagnosed with cancer (lymphoma) stage 3. Was clean off gear. Doctor said 10-12 years average before I’m a dead man. Did chemo a year later as tumors grew. After chemo (long chemo - like Ike’s like a skeleton) said ‘fuck it’, waited a few months to flush my system of all the bad shit (trained naturally and sweated it out and got legit massages). I then geared up on test and dbol . Felt fantastic. Since then I cycled on and off, never more than a 12 week cycle and almost always test and Anavar . Dabbled with halo recently. Never felt better. No more cancer. Docs are baffled. Still alive. No cancer. It’s been 19 years since being told to checkout after 10-12….
Doc caught on about test enanthate last year because of high hemocrit levels. Still doesn’t know why my cancer hasn’t come back and killed me. Lol.
I think test, var, even a little dbol does a body good. Not monster dosages but short cycles with real time off.

Stay away from GH !!!
God bless and good luck

[< <Samson> >]

I agree !

Short story based on my cancer ‘death sentence’
Diagnosed with cancer (lymphoma) stage 3. Was clean off gear. Doctor said 10-12 years average before I’m a dead man. Did chemo a year later as tumors grew. After chemo (long chemo - like Ike’s like a skeleton) said ‘fuck it’, waited a few months to flush my system of all the bad shit (trained naturally and sweated it out and got legit massages). I then geared up on test and dbol . Felt fantastic. Since then I cycled on and off, never more than a 12 week cycle and almost always test and Anavar . Dabbled with halo recently. Never felt better. No more cancer. Docs are baffled. Still alive. No cancer. It’s been 19 years since being told to checkout after 10-12….
Doc caught on about test enanthate last year because of high hemocrit levels. Still doesn’t know why my cancer hasn’t come back and killed me. Lol.
I think test, var, even a little dbol does a body good. Not monster dosages but short cycles with real time off.

Stay away from GH !!!
God bless and good luck

That’s amazing to hear! Fucking rock on!

[Honkey_Kong]

I agree !

Short story based on my cancer ‘death sentence’
Diagnosed with cancer (lymphoma) stage 3. Was clean off gear. Doctor said 10-12 years average before I’m a dead man. Did chemo a year later as tumors grew. After chemo (long chemo - like Ike’s like a skeleton) said ‘fuck it’, waited a few months to flush my system of all the bad shit (trained naturally and sweated it out and got legit massages). I then geared up on test and dbol . Felt fantastic. Since then I cycled on and off, never more than a 12 week cycle and almost always test and Anavar . Dabbled with halo recently. Never felt better. No more cancer. Docs are baffled. Still alive. No cancer. It’s been 19 years since being told to checkout after 10-12….
Doc caught on about test enanthate last year because of high hemocrit levels. Still doesn’t know why my cancer hasn’t come back and killed me. Lol.
I think test, var, even a little dbol does a body good. Not monster dosages but short cycles with real time off.

Stay away from GH !!!
God bless and good luck

I'm happy for you.

Did your doctor tell you to keep doing whatever it is your doing when he found out about your enanthate cycle?

[sully169]

Prayers brother

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[flipflops1969]

Any update FinaKat? Renctly diagnosed with the big C myself.