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    Gyno

    Need some help brothers. As some of you may know I ran my first tren cycle some months back. Loved the way I felt on it but I didn’t experience much in the way of gains. Little bit of history I had 4 previous cycle with test (one with EQ). I never ran an AI with any of them and never had issues with gyno. I ran the tren cycle for 15 weeks at 400 tren ACE and 600 test cyp. I ran .5mg Adex along with it twice weekly. Once the cycle was done I dropped to a 250mg test cruise as usual and within a few weeks Gyno started flaring up. It’s been a couple of months now and it’s actually getting worse. I upped Adex to 3mg a week and it’s still progressively getting worse. I have sensitive lumps and some soft tissue growth underneath each nipple. I assume something is way off and Adex is not the answer here. Sex drive is still great so IDK what it could be but I know it is ruining the look of my chest.

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    I’ve always kept this around in case of emergency.

    I like the way it’s authored. I’m sure you’ll get lots of anecdotal experiences which should help as well, fortunately (knocking on wood) I don’t have any.

    Hope it helps…

    https://moreplatesmoredates.com/how-...thout-surgery/
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    Iíve been using that guide along with some of the info in Austiniteís gyno sticky.

    I have a little pubertal gyno on my right side. Not super bad but enough to bother me. Asked Dr about it when I was a teen and he said itís normal and it usually goes away. It didnít. Itís not super bad so I didnít wanna pay for surgery but the Raloxifene treatment has been great for me.

    Iíve had good results and Iíve only been using it 3 weeks. Mine is 20+ years old so maybe itís harder to get rid of or maybe easier cause itís not growing like yours IDK.

    Raloxifene works faster and better than I expected. You could always see a Dr or at least get labs done cause gyno growing on 3mg adex weekly seems worrisome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    I’ve always kept this around in case of emergency.

    I like the way it’s authored. I’m sure you’ll get lots of anecdotal experiences which should help as well, fortunately (knocking on wood) I don’t have any.

    Hope it helps…

    https://moreplatesmoredates.com/how-...thout-surgery/
    And, it has Golias as the 1st pic

    Gyno has always been a slippery slope for me - even after my removal, the shit tried to grow back for months. . . Then about year later after surgery, it all died down. . . The only thing I have left now is residual fatty tissue


    Nolvadex was my go to med to try to keep this shit in check - until, it just stopped working
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    Good info supplied so far, it to summarize:

    First line of defense is typically Nolvadex
    Second line is raloxifene
    Third is a combo of letrozole and another drug. Can't remember the details there.

    That is in the order of least difficult but also least powerful. Some evidence suggests that the second and third could be flipped from a potency perspective, but I think it is safe to say that the letro combo is the most extreme and most difficult to get right.

    Any of those options, though, likely beat the heck out of surgery.
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    Mis spelled tren

    Since tren is prolactin based, itís most likely caused by high prolactin levels. Try dostinex or bromo
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    And, it has Golias as the 1st pic


    Nolvadex was my go to med to try to keep this shit in check - until, it just stopped working
    Shit, how long it took for you to stopped working, I have been using it for 3 years and it is still great for me. You are scaring me

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    Thanks for all of the insight gents. After some reading I decided against Ralox simply because potential blood clots is a mild turnoff. I’m going to go the Metro route. Any suggestions on dosing etc? Obviously I’ll have to drop Adex beforehand. I’m reading various doses all over the place.

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    Decided to go with Letro. 2.5mg ED for 20 days, 1.25mg after for 5 days the. Finish off with .65mg for 10 days all the while at 300mg test. After I will wait a week and pick back up with Adex twice weekly at .5mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dgs59 View Post
    Shit, how long it took for you to stopped working, I have been using it for 3 years and it is still great for me. You are scaring me
    5 years

    It just stopped, no matter the dose or frequency

    Good ridens man boobs
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    Could be Prolactin based, Nandrolone or any 19 Nor cause's this in me. Although I've stopped using them, Caber knocked it out immediately when I ran them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yard_Dog View Post
    Could be Prolactin based, Nandrolone or any 19 Nor cause's this in me. Although I've stopped using them, Caber knocked it out immediately when I ran them.
    In that case I would be crashing my estro for zero reason with zero results I assume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meloncap78 View Post
    In that case I would be crashing my estro for zero reason with zero results I assume.
    Yes, that is correct.

    Have you by chance pulled bloodwork? I think it would be good to see prolactin and e2 sensitive to know for sure what is what...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Yes, that is correct.

    Have you by chance pulled bloodwork? I think it would be good to see prolactin and e2 sensitive to know for sure what is what...
    My family doc cannot pull e2 sensitive. It isn’t offered by the lab. My Prolactin levels are 22ng/ml.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meloncap78 View Post
    My family doc cannot pull e2 sensitive. It isnít offered by the lab. My Prolactin levels are 22ng/ml.
    My old Dr was similar they wouldnít test free T or e2 sensitive (hopefully next one will). Could you go to a lab on your own? I need to get a baseline so Iím just going to pay for labs myself if need be, maybe you can do same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinAZ View Post
    My old Dr was similar they wouldn’t test free T or e2 sensitive (hopefully next one will). Could you go to a lab on your own? I need to get a baseline so I’m just going to pay for labs myself if need be, maybe you can do same.
    Unfortunately I am in NYS and we can’t make any health decisions for ourselves. I have thought about driving to PA to a lab and paying for whatever labs I want. Only a couple of hours on 81.

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    Go to Jason health and they’ll direct you where to go and give blood…pick what tests you want. It’s cheap and easy. Any quest diagnostics (or similar) can take their orders and do the draw. You enter in your location and they’ll point you to the closest place.

    https://www.jasonhealth.com/


    Did a dummy look for you and in NYC, they point you to CT. Just an FYI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meloncap78 View Post
    Unfortunately I am in NYS and we canít make any health decisions for ourselves. I have thought about driving to PA to a lab and paying for whatever labs I want. Only a couple of hours on 81.
    Looks like you can order the tests on Quest Diagnostic's website an go to any of their locations to get them to draw the blood and give you the results a few days later. No excuses.

    https://questdirect.questdiagnostics.com/products
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Looks like you can order the tests on Quest Diagnostic's website an go to any of their locations to get them to draw the blood and give you the results a few days later. No excuses.

    https://questdirect.questdiagnostics.com/products
    Ordering directly from Quest will be more expensive than privatemdlabs or ultalabtests, but if you can order from them and not have to drive TO ANOTHER DANG STATE, then it is probably worth it, especially for just a couple of tests.

    BTW, why in the flying <beep> would a state put restrictions on the bloodwork a private citizen can order??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Ordering directly from Quest will be more expensive than privatemdlabs or ultalabtests, but if you can order from them and not have to drive TO ANOTHER DANG STATE, then it is probably worth it, especially for just a couple of tests.

    BTW, why in the flying <beep> would a state put restrictions on the bloodwork a private citizen can order??
    I donít want to get into politics but NY is very left leaning so Iíd imagine it has to do with socialized healthcare or at least heavily regulated healthcare. I see very little gained and a great deal of economic and personal freedoms lost by such regulation. We are supposed to trade off economic goals for each other and I donít see any benefit gained from this loss of freedom. Not trying to point fingers or go political so Iíll stop here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Ordering directly from Quest will be more expensive than privatemdlabs or ultalabtests, but if you can order from them and not have to drive TO ANOTHER DANG STATE, then it is probably worth it, especially for just a couple of tests.

    BTW, why in the flying <beep> would a state put restrictions on the bloodwork a private citizen can order??
    Yeah, my point wasn't really the cost of it, but that it's available to people in NY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Yeah, my point wasn't really the cost of it, but that it's available to people in NY
    Yeah, it's cool, I got that. It just boggles my dang mind that a state would say 'no blood tests for you'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Yeah, it's cool, I got that. It just boggles my dang mind that a state would say 'no blood tests for you'.
    I'm sure there are a fair number of people who make their Dr's appointments just so they can get him to order bloodwork. And they just make it even harder for somebody who is sick to get an appointment that day.
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    If the wife and I didn’t love the Adirondacks so much we would be out of this state.
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    If I am ordering blood work labs, because my gyno is flaring up which labs would I order. Is there a certain set of labs I should get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8diezel View Post
    If I am ordering blood work labs, because my gyno is flaring up which labs would I order. Is there a certain set of labs I should get?
    Total test, free test, estradiol ultra sensitive, prolactin
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Total test, free test, estradiol ultra sensitive, prolactin
    Thank you man appreciate it!!
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