300 mg Test Cyp and 300 Deca

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51(M) been on numerous cycles (most a long time ago). Been on trt doing 150 mg test every 5 days for about a year. Wanting to get a little “crazy” and have started 300 mg of cyp and 300 mg deca every 5 days. Is the ratio on that correct? I think I need my test to be at least as much of deca but curious if I should take more test than deca? Also, on this low of a dose is an AI necessary. I will be getting bloodwork soon so that should tell me but just curious as to any thoughts on this.

Thanks for any response.

[kloter1]

I'd recommend first, taking your hrt 2-3 smaller shots per week. Since cyp has a long ester some may say it doesnt matter but I felt like more frequent injections kept me from getting acne as bad. 300 test and 300 deca is fine using both equally. Personally, once I tried NPP I never went back to deca. It is a short ester so you have to shoot it every other day but the gains came on very quick and I didnt bloat as much in my stomach area. But to answer your question that ratio is fine. I doubt you would need an AI at that dose.

[956Vette]

51(M) been on numerous cycles (most a long time ago). Been on trt doing 150 mg test every 5 days for about a year. Wanting to get a little “crazy” and have started 300 mg of cyp and 300 mg deca every 5 days. Is the ratio on that correct? I think I need my test to be at least as much of deca but curious if I should take more test than deca? Also, on this low of a dose is an AI necessary. I will be getting bloodwork soon so that should tell me but just curious as to any thoughts on this.

Thanks for any response.

Imo, there's no need for a 1:1 ratio of test to deca, I don't dare get close to that. You might notice folks who dose high test and moderate-high deca often have gyno challenges in time. My crazy idea for you would be to bump your test up by 25-50mg/week and double your nandrolone dosage (might need a spice of viagra at times).

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So you are thinking 350 Cyp and 600 Deca a week? You know your stuff way more than I do but that sounds like it would turn me into a bloated mother effer. I suppose I did not say I am not doing this for a mass gainer. Its Summer so I am still going to eat lean. And tbh I already have dick problems from time to time as it is. Probably a combination of getting older and doing zero PCT when I was younger. Of course I fear "Deca Dick" which is why I was keeping it at that. I have not been on this board in a long time but see you are an AR-Elite Hall of Famer. I actually respect that so will heed (at least some of your advice). I may bump it up to 400 Cyp and 400 Deca and see how that works. And I apologize again but would you recommend and AI for this cycle.

Also, to previous poster. I have done NPP a time or two in the past and love it. One of my best cycles was Test Prop and NPP. I will never do it again though. Pinning that much is just a complete hassle for me. And the NPP I had gave me serious PIP. Quad shots would cripple me for days.

[almostgone]

So you are thinking 350 Cyp and 600 Deca a week? You know your stuff way more than I do but that sounds like it would turn me into a bloated mother effer. I suppose I did not say I am not doing this for a mass gainer. Its Summer so I am still going to eat lean. And tbh I already have dick problems from time to time as it is. Probably a combination of getting older and doing zero PCT when I was younger. Of course I fear "Deca Dick" which is why I was keeping it at that. I have not been on this board in a long time but see you are an AR-Elite Hall of Famer. I actually respect that so will heed (at least some of your advice). I may bump it up to 400 Cyp and 400 Deca and see how that works. And I apologize again but would you recommend and AI for this cycle.

Also, to previous poster. I have done NPP a time or two in the past and love it. One of my best cycles was Test Prop and NPP. I will never do it again though. Pinning that much is just a complete hassle for me. And the NPP I had gave me serious PIP. Quad shots would cripple me for days.

Like Vette posted, not set in stone for your test to equal your nandrolone. Keep an eye on your E2 levels. Might want to consider having a little Cabaser/cabergoliine on hand if you can source it.

[Honkey_Kong]

You might want to think about adding 50mg proviron.

[956Vette]

So you are thinking 350 Cyp and 600 Deca a week?

Pardon for lack of clarity my friend, my intention was to propose a total of 175-200mg test + 400-600mg deca per week. More testosterone often is not advantageous, however the more exposure to 19 nor testosterone (durabolin)...offers better potential for gains in the lean body mass dept.

[Lethal Hamburger]

Pardon for lack of clarity my friend, my intention was to propose a total of 175-200mg test + 400-600mg deca per week. More testosterone often is not advantageous, however the more exposure to 19 nor testosterone (durabolin)...offers better potential for gains in the lean body mass dept.

I agree. Keep nandrolone to a maximum 600mg split into 2 shots per week and a long estered test as the dose you said. This is such a sweet spot for many hobby bbers and strength athletes.
If you push the testosterone too high it will aromatase more readily and has the potential to interact with the work nandrolone does on the progesterone receptors.
I find splitting the weekly dose and running for 14 weeks or until the gains plateau helps to keep sides to a minimum. Proviron is going to help if your libido takes a dive too.

[Honkey_Kong]

Pardon for lack of clarity my friend, my intention was to propose a total of 175-200mg test + 400-600mg deca per week. More testosterone often is not advantageous, however the more exposure to 19 nor testosterone (durabolin)...offers better potential for gains in the lean body mass dept.

I agree. Let the synthetic hormones that were designed to be better at specific tasks, do the heavy lifting.

[Honkey_Kong]

I agree. Keep nandrolone to a maximum 600mg split into 2 shots per week and a long estered test as the dose you said. This is such a sweet spot for many hobby bbers and strength athletes.
If you push the testosterone too high it will aromatase more readily and has the potential to interact with the work nandrolone does on the progesterone receptors.
I find splitting the weekly dose and running for 14 weeks or until the gains plateau helps to keep sides to a minimum. Proviron is going to help if your libido takes a dive too.

Proviron also binds to the the SHBG more freeing up the other hormones.

[AR's King Silabolin]

51(M) been on numerous cycles (most a long time ago). Been on trt doing 150 mg test every 5 days for about a year. Wanting to get a little “crazy” and have started 300 mg of cyp and 300 mg deca every 5 days. Is the ratio on that correct? I think I need my test to be at least as much of deca but curious if I should take more test than deca? Also, on this low of a dose is an AI necessary. I will be getting bloodwork soon so that should tell me but just curious as to any thoughts on this.

Thanks for any response.

Ratio is fine.
At least u should do 400 mg DIM ed and AI on hand.


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[Honkey_Kong]

Ratio is fine.
At least u should do 400 mg DIM ed and AI on hand.


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DIM as in diindolylmethane? How well does it work?

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Actually already using DIM. I was going to ask people’s thoughts on it,

DIM as in diindolylmethane? How well does it work?

[Lethal Hamburger]

Actually already using DIM. I was going to ask people’s thoughts on it,

Before coming off trt due to cancer shat on my life, I ran dim at 300mg per day with vit e. At 400mg it reduced my estrogen levels a little too much as my trt us 125mg weekly.
It works well but I have a feeling it will need to be tested during a blast with a higher dose of testosterone.
I could dig up my bloods and tell you the estrogen figures if really wanted.

[Lethal Hamburger]

Trt weekly dose 125mg testosterone enanthate split into 2 shots per week.

Estrogen before dim: 50pmol/l

Estrogen after dim: 30pmol/l

*Dim dosed at 300mg daily