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Thread: Tren - First time tren-ing

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    Question Tren - First time tren-ing

    Decided to go with 100mg Tren E while on 250 Test E. Going to do a cut.

    I don't really use AI, just nolva 10mg daily works ok on me (cruise).

    Do you recommend having AI on hand for Tren? I got tons of arimedex sitting there but thinking to get aremesin instead where I think caber might be an overkill. Do I really need an AI on 100mg Tren? I can tolerate 500 to 550 test with No AI (.)(.) I got mast too but just avoiding it, it's gonna kill my hair so with Tren I will go AI instead of mast.

    Any advice on AI or No AI at all, if I do need an AI What works better with Tren, adex or aremesin? Can low dose as 100mg cause insomnia?

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    As far as I know, you don't need an AI for tren as it does not aromatize. You may need it for Test E depending on how much you aromatize. If you ran 500mg in the past with no issues i don't see why you need an AI at all for this cycle. Keep Caber on hand in case you get prolactin sides from the tren (I highly doubt if you'd need it.)

    If I were you I would drop the test to a TRT dose and consider upping the tren a tiny bit. Also, I'd consider running Tren A instead. The enanthate ester is kinda heavy so you'd be losing a substantial amount to the ester weight. This means you'd be getting a lot less actual tren compared to the Acetate ester. I would run it like this instead

    Tren A 50mg/EOD
    Test E 75mg/E3.5D

    I suggest you wait for a more knowledgeable member to chime in on this. I'm relatively new to AAS myself!
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    side effects of trenbolone acetate include symptoms of masculinization like acne, increased body hair growth, scalp hair loss, voice changes, and increased sexual desire.[5] the drug is a synthetic androgen and anabolic steroid and hence is an agonist of the androgen receptor (ar), the biological target of androgens like testosterone and dihydrotestosterone (dht). it has strong anabolic effects and highly androgenic effects, as well as potent progestogenic effects, and weak glucocorticoid effects.

    So even though it doesn't aromatize, you should have caber to combat the progesterone, which can cause gyno.

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    Roll some proviron and mid dose mast and youíll be fine at those dosages
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    AI is for test
    Caber is for Tren

    I watch horror movies and they usually make me laugh. As soon as my mind touches my one Tren E cycle everything else is a damn joke lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Roll some proviron and mid dose mast and you’ll be fine at those dosages
    Dude my hair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dgs59 View Post
    Dude my hair
    I forget, Iím bald as fuck. Lol

    Could always add a DHT blocking drug to combat the hair loss sides or skip them both altogether.

    At 100 mgs a week, I donít see you needing caber at all. Less is more to me when it comes to ancillaries.

    I think itís always a good idea to have it on hand but I would bet the farm at those dosages (shit, up to 4 or 500) that you wonít need caber. Itís such a strong medicine on its own and I generally try to avoid, AIís, SERMís and DRAís.

    All have their place but if youíre doing fine without an AI at 500 mgs a week of test, Iíd certainly roll the dice with 100 mgs of tren a week and no DRA.

    If anything Iíd consider bumping it to 200

    I only run long esters and not once have I regretted taking tren E over A because Iíve needed to bail due to adverse events.

    Itís a great drug and is to be respected but some of it gets blown out of proportion.

    As for prolactin sides, the only thing Iíve experienced is a delayed orgasmÖI actually prefer it

    Now if you start lactating, youíll definitely want that caber on hand! Couldnít even imagine, but that shit happens to some

    Youíll do great, have fun with it
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    I forget, Iím bald as fuck. Lol

    Could always add a DHT blocking drug to combat the hair loss sides or skip them both altogether.

    At 100 mgs a week, I donít see you needing caber at all. Less is more to me when it comes to ancillaries.

    I think itís always a good idea to have it on hand but I would bet the farm at those dosages (shit, up to 4 or 500) that you wonít need caber. Itís such a strong medicine on its own and I generally try to avoid, AIís, SERMís and DRAís.

    All have their place but if youíre doing fine without an AI at 500 mgs a week of test, Iíd certainly roll the dice with 100 mgs of tren a week and no DRA.

    If anything Iíd consider bumping it to 200

    I only run long esters and not once have I regretted taking tren E over A because Iíve needed to bail due to adverse events.

    Itís a great drug and is to be respected but some of it gets blown out of proportion.

    As for prolactin sides, the only thing Iíve experienced is a delayed orgasmÖI actually prefer it

    Now if you start lactating, youíll definitely want that caber on hand! Couldnít even imagine, but that shit happens to some

    Youíll do great, have fun with it
    Cheers my man. Makes absolute sense.

    Re: DHT blockers: I was thinking about it, they are easy to access here, but just don't want to mess my levels while trying to adjust the dosages so I decided to avoid mast. Around 6 months ago I tried proviron , shit my DHT so fast.

    RE: AI : last time when I took AI was when mistaken it for nolva and crashed myself, I can tolerate 500 test E easy, no AI, only sensitive nipples which I don't care but no gyno etc. Before jumping into the game I really thought estrogen will be very hard for me to control and I will pump too much estrogen but it turns out that I was not that sensitive then I thought to estrogen, turns out DHT is pain for me and my hair shred like crazy.

    RE: bump to 200 : hahahaha Tren scares the shit out of with its insomnia related sides, I already have sleep apnea so insomnia will just take all I have left but definitely a plan for future, just want to give my body a taste of Tren so it knows what's coming next with higher dosages

    RE: E over A, cheers.

    Re: delayed orgasms: that's fantastic lol

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    All makes perfect sense and I can tell you’ve put a lot of thought into it.

    I have wicked insomnia (wish my CPAP helped) but I manage ok while on tren , I definitely utilize a sleeping med. the sweating and heartburn are the two biggies for me but we all react SO differently, it’s hard to tell what will happen until we just dive right in.

    You always post insightful and thought out responses, you’re gonna do just fine.

    100 mgs is a great entry way and just start telling yourself you’re going to thrive…because you are.

    Have fun, post your updates!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    All makes perfect sense and I can tell you’ve put a lot of thought into it.

    I have wicked insomnia (wish my CPAP helped) but I manage ok while on tren , I definitely utilize a sleeping med. the sweating and heartburn are the two biggies for me but we all react SO differently, it’s hard to tell what will happen until we just dive right in.

    You always post insightful and thought out responses, you’re gonna do just fine.

    100 mgs is a great entry way and just start telling yourself you’re going to thrive…because you are.

    Have fun, post your updates!
    Thank you for your kind words, you are awesome with your perfect answers always spot on, highly appreciate your help and contribution.

    CPAP, only if I could get used to the bloody mask Insomnia will suck, hope your sleep meds help.

    Will Definitely post updates.
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