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I've run 400 Tren E with 400 Test E ew a few cycles years ago and always had shortness of breath in the evenings. Went to the doc and all is good with my lungs. I had a horrible time sleeping, mainly because I couldn't take full deep breaths.
I am 5 weeks into a cycle of 200 Tren E and 400 Test E ew and noticed shortness of breaths coming back....anybody else have similar issues with Tren?
Tren affects my cardio/breathing as well. I usually pull a CBC just to make sure my HCT isn't excessively elevated and my platelet count is in range.
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Originally Posted by Tin-Man
Every single time….
Shortness of breath, insomnia and heartburn/nausea
I use an albuterol inhaler. I'm not sure if it's psychological or if it's actually because with the bronchiole tubes being a dilated I can get more air in, but it certainly helps.
My gym has an elevator, I shit you not when I say that I consider taking it daily
Have read a lot about Cardarine (GW501516) and it’s positive impact circumventing the cardio issues with Tren but have never tried it. Been crossing my mind a lot lately as it is thought to increase vascularity…it could help in boosting your endurance level and that gassing effect tren has.
Not advocating, just sharing
...and then there's the whole tren sweating.
Gotta love it.
For the stomach issues, Pepto-Bismol tabs give me some relief.
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Oh shit, how did I forget to mention the sweating?! Or my wife constantly nagging me that I’m a sweaty pig that requires his own laundry basket and daily changing of the bed sheets!
I’ve been on a combo of Pepcid AC, tums, Pepto and Maalox.
I’m basically terrified to fart ;)
I love cardarine effects but I take it rarely and sometimes in half doses cause I’m scared of the cancer risks. I lean towards risk being overblown like Cyclon said but just don’t know for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cylon357
For cardio cardarine is nuts. I can run to the point I’m about to puke on it and normally my body wants me to stop way before that. For lifting it makes me want to do extra lifts when I’d normally be tired and done.
Charger made a good point a while back about how if cardarine works so good and didn’t have risks a major pharm company wouldn’t have bailed on it.
My bro science harm reduction has been to use it sparingly. I wish we knew it was safe because it is an amazing compound to use.
*edit: also I’m not on tren. If I ever worked up to using tren I wouldn’t mind taking daily for 4-6 weeks but right now it just isn’t worth it.
Dude 40 mg of Prilosec changed my life. I used to have to sleep so propped up on pillows I was practically sitting up.Quote:
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah
I work in big pharma…I have for 20+ years and there’s a myriad of reasons why companies abandon certain compounds. Most of the carcinogenic data with Cardarine had to do with a couple of rat studies, it was also at extremely high dosages for extended periods of time in a small rodent population. Not discounting the potential, but you always have to question the methodology.
Look at BPA’s in plastic or any number of cancer causing compounds that we are exposed to every day.
My cancer was chalked up as “environmental”, that alone should tell you we don’t have a clue on what we’re exposed to every day.
Starting to ramble a bit, but at some point we have to accept that so much of what is deemed “safe” truly isn’t and not matter what choices we make, there is always a risk and reward ratio.
Your predisposition can’t be underestimated either.
And HK, I’m rocking 40 of Prilosec now and still struggling. I think my gut health from the radiation isn’t helping matters either. FML
I’m looking good though, tren works ;)
Weird, double post
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Originally Posted by almostgone
first, from my first or second shot of tren ace at 50mg I start losing breath. Now I smoke but it hits me right away.
the sweat is like from the movie alien. it stains everything it touches. I change shirts midway thru workouts while wearing a comp tank under the shirt.
sweat during sex is the worst IMO, wife hates it.
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Yep, I learned to lay a towel off to the side of the wife's pillow so I could blot my face and keep business in operation.
we keep hand towels at arm reach during that time.lol
I'm assuming the effect is dose dependent?Quote:
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah
off course it gets worst the higher I go but at 30-50mg eod I am feeling the strain.
I think I probably maculinised parts of my brain on my highest doses of Tren. Wouldn't be surprised if I'm better able to read maps and less able to cook Christmas dinner.
Never got breathing problems. Not sure if my cardio suffered as I wasn't doing cardio.
Feelings of intense rage in response to small annoyances (although these feelings were in the background and fortunately didn't burst through the surface).
Insomnia was a problem but I was able to reduce it significantly by drinking more water. (At one point I had come to the conclusion that Trensomnia is caused by dehydration).
I'm enjoying running public half-marathons now at this point in my life, so maybe Tren isn't in future.
I tried the cardarine with the tren... 10mg ed while I was on tren 525 ace ew.. I didn't notice... I mean I didn't notice anything regarding the cardarine.... maybe I was on too many things at once and feeling everything? but the cardarine didn't pop or it wasn't easy to see anything positive from it... =/ I say you should still try it for yourself who knows... maybe i got bunk stuff or maybe it doesn't work as well on me... or i was just on too many other compounds... eg.. test- 525mg ew tren 525mg ew mast 725ew proviron 75mg edQuote:
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah
Tren... Gotta be really healthy substance we are using and abusing, gents... And here I am reading, countering the adverse effects of one "questionable" substance with another, perhaps equally suspect medication... Any sane individual (and that ain't me) would question, WTF are these guys doing...
SOB (not son of a bitch but, shortness of breath) has always been a killer for me, on the Tren cycles I have run. I believe it was Reds, from Canada, who said that if you are religiously doing your cardio, the SOB is reduced... I can't answer that, because I am not doing a lot of cardio, unless of course if we are counting the deep, prolonged and meaningful anal intercourse (FYI, I am pitching, NOT catching...). I would sometimes cough in the gym like I was battling Covid...
The indigestion has been the most negative side, for me. Constant acid reflux... Don't combine Tren with any ED meds (Viagra / Cialis). For me, taking the "man pill" in conjunction with Tren, is nearly always a guarantee to visit the porcelain god several hours post-orgasm. On Tren I would wake up in the night, my mouth flooded with saliva, and dash to the head (toilet).
These two factors, SOB and nausea, have made me seriously consider eliminating this from my cycles.
I never experienced excessive sweating (even during sex, and you can bet your ass, I am putting out), so I can't give any input here.
Yeah, Tren; you gotta love it...
I even got sweats on testosterone alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS
Very often. I use otrivin. Dont know if u american guys have another word for otrivin, but is a OTC noseopener.
At work and even in the evening jerking off using tren, and it feels like im chocking myself and heart is going to stop, otrivin helps.
Pretty safe, although u shouldnt use it continously. It opens the capillars in the nose, making oxygen flow much much more easier. Just what your treninfected system needs.
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We call it “Afrin” here and I use it intermittently too. Cialis gives me really bad congestion as well, and it’s a savior when I’m on Tren and a boner pill.
Like Navy said, those two don’t play well. I keep the Afrin on hand along with some different stomach meds. Oh the things we do…
Chapeau bas, to you 2 gents, S & D and AR's King Silabolin.Quote:
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah
You guys are solving problems for me...
The best is when you're trying to eat her pussy and you can't breathe the whole time cause Cialis got you in a headlock. I'm gonna try the Afrin and see what it does. I tried Nasacort, Zicam, and some other ones and they don't work for me.
Hold the phone. Cialis has a side effect of stuffy nose?Quote:
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah
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Originally Posted by tarmyg
Absolutely known for nasal congestion…it’s listed in their package insert under “adverse events”, also listed is dyspepsia.
So add that on top of Tren and it’s a recipe for gut rot and difficulty breathing.
When I do take Cialis (which I prefer over its little blue cousin) I’m popping between 15 and 20 mg’s and the nasal congestion gets brutal. Getting face fucked feels like you’re being suffocated (which I actually think is sexy, just don’t want to pass out underneath my lady’s ass)
That’s why my “fuck kit” has Afrin (or otrivin, as I’ve recently learned) Pepcid AC and Pepto ;)
Fucking Right-on brother...!!! NOW we are speaking my language...!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah
Gent's, this thread has potential...!!!
(As I leave for the pharmacy, with Afrin on the list...)
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Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS
You’re just the best brother…
“Fuck kit”, lmao. Ok, you got my attention here. What else is in this thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah
Definitely never had any shortness of breath to the point you guys are suggesting....I think I'd freak out thinking I was in heart failure.
Boner pills, Afrin, stomach meds, PT-141, breath mints, Jimmy hats, ky. Just the boyscout in me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tarmyg
Come on brother...??? You gotta be "holding out" on us.Quote:
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah
What about the TOYS?
My loadout, when I am informed in advance that "tonight is a HOT night" consists of a plethora of sex toys, along with "the man-pill". I will certainly add to my "bag of tricks" Afrin (The shit you can learn here on the forum...) for the sinus issues that accompany this miracle medication.
But, the toys, gentlemen..... Ahhhhhhhhh, the toys...... We could have a whole thread / discussion about this topic (Sure to be locked, as I believe that in today's PC culture we couldn't have an open, frank discussion concerning this subject. Due to the fact that somebody, perhaps one of our esteemed female members, would get offended, or Admin / Mods would deem such a topic as in appropriate... Too bad, because such a subject has conversational potential here, with such members .
OK, excuse me for getting sidetracked.
RuhlFreak55: I wish I could say that Tren didn't effect my breathing. I could live with the SOB, but the indigestion and nausea is just a killer.
Here again we see that effects and secondary effects (side effects) vary between users.
Oh Navy, I’m an absolute fan of the toys! I roger that loud and clear. I just don’t have them in the kit and if I’m being honest, I let my playmate cover those bases. Not opposed to always being prepared but luckily I haven’t been called upon in a very long time to have one on the ready. (I do long for the day when I hear “what do you mean you don’t have a riding crop and a butt plug with you”?!) LolQuote:
Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS
100% on the indigestion. Tren makes me a lady killer though, but the sides can be disruptive. Between 4-500 mgs, I produce just enough prolactin to turn me into a savage. Now there have been times I thought I would either spontaneously combust (due to how hot it makes me run or from the friction fire it takes to cross the finish line) but man I can go for days which sadly isn’t always the case without it on board (my two pump chump days are behind me but with Tren on board I give gold medal performances for sustainability) ;)
The problem is with the nausea, trensomnia and other funk it brings, I debate on whether it’s really all worth it). When I was younger for sure…these days, debatable. The last run was the first time I’ve pulled up camp before the 10 week mark, I hit 6 and was over it. So over it. Also dealing with a new type of stomach, so there’s that.
S&D,Quote:
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah
I am with you on everything in your response, especially the hi-lighted sections...!!!
Did I read "butt plug" and "riding crop"...? Chicks bodies are made for that kind of activity...!!! I am a freak for anything that goes in her ass.