Second cycle advice

**antonchigurh** · 03-26-2022, 12:16 AM

Hi, I’m 28 years old & did a cycle a couple of years ago of Test & Deca & Dbol , I had amazing gains with it, most of it I lost during inactivity over the years.

I kind of know it’s stupid to ask but I wanted to do an oral cycle of Tbol & Anavar what would I do for PCT? I’m kind of open to pinning again haha

Stats
5’7
150lb
Body fat about 12%

any advice would be appreciated as I’m new here
Thanks

**Mr. Small** · 03-26-2022, 09:00 PM

Oral only cycles are a waste.

You're a candidate for first time cycle because of inactivity. 500mg test per week only

**antonchigurh** · 03-26-2022, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Small

Oral only cycles are a waste.

You're a candidate for first time cycle because of inactivity. 500mg test per week only

Thanks, makes sense. What would a PCT look like for a 15 week test, dbol & maybe deca look like?

**Mr. Small** · 03-28-2022, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by antonchigurh

Thanks, makes sense. What would a PCT look like for a 15 week test, dbol & maybe deca look like?

If you're using Test E, start your Clomid and nolvadex 2 weeks after last pin.

First week is 40 nolvadex and 20mg on week 2,3 and 4. Clomid is 100mg for first week and 50mg for weeks 2,3 and 4.

**antonchigurh** · 03-29-2022, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Small

If you're using Test E, start your Clomid and nolvadex 2 weeks after last pin.

First week is 40 nolvadex and 20mg on week 2,3 and 4. Clomid is 100mg for first week and 50mg for weeks 2,3 and 4.

I remember when I did my first cycle I had gotten gyno & what would I need in hand incase of it getting worse? I’ve heard of dosing a little bit of Arimidex ?

**wellshii** · 03-29-2022, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by antonchigurh

Thanks, makes sense. What would a PCT look like for a 15 week test, dbol & maybe deca look like?

Theres no point in throwing so many compounds in.
Start at 300-500 test,eat,train,rest and get blood work before ,halfway and after to see how you do health marker wise.
Once you get older youll definitely be worrying about that .

**Cuz** · 03-29-2022, 07:39 PM

Sounds like you need to increase your food intake first and foremost

**antonchigurh** · 03-30-2022, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by wellshii

Theres no point in throwing so many compounds in.
Start at 300-500 test,eat,train,rest and get blood work before ,halfway and after to see how you do health marker wise.
Once you get older youll definitely be worrying about that .

Thanks! That’s what I’ve decided to do Test E 500. I’ve got a bit of gyno from the first cycle that I did so I was wondering if I should take Arimidex through out the cycle or something?

**Cylon357** · 03-30-2022, 07:04 PM

This link has your answers

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html

**Honkey_Kong** · 03-31-2022, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Cuz

Sounds like you need to increase your food intake first and foremost

Yeah, an extra 1000 calories a day would pack the pounds on him for quite a while without taking gear. But I'm sure he's not going to take your advice, run some gear and then give his 5'7 150lbs stat when he asks about his third cycle.

**Honkey_Kong** · 03-31-2022, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by antonchigurh

Thanks! That’s what I’ve decided to do Test E 500. I’ve got a bit of gyno from the first cycle that I did so I was wondering if I should take Arimidex through out the cycle or something?

You should only use it, if you are experiencing symptoms. The goal of gear is to get the gains you want from the least amount of drugs possible. As Cuz said, you need to eat more and so running gear isn't going to overcome that flaw in your diet. But you're going to do whatever you want, so I'm done.

**Cuz** · 03-31-2022, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Yeah, an extra 1000 calories a day would pack the pounds on him for quite a while without taking gear. But I'm sure he's not going to take your advice, run some gear and then give his 5'7 150lbs stat when he asks about his third cycle.

Well lol, i Wasnt gonna be quite as blunt as you lmfao, but basically.

Food is definitely number 1 even if u have shit genetics, hard gainer etc etc food is the only way imo then you can add the goodies

**antonchigurh** · 10-06-2022, 10:12 PM

Hello again lol so I’ve put on a bit more of weight and have been training since this post, I’m still kind of on the edge of starting my cycle at the end of the month, just gonna be doing test e 500mg a week and was just wondering if I should add anything else or just test e alone for this cycle? Also should I be taking hcg or would a pct be fine?

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-06-2022, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by antonchigurh

Hello again lol so I’ve put on a bit more of weight and have been training since this post, I’m still kind of on the edge of starting my cycle at the end of the month, just gonna be doing test e 500mg a week and was just wondering if I should add anything else or just test e alone for this cycle? Also should I be taking hcg or would a pct be fine?

I think you should read this stickie. It should answer a lot of your questions:

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html

**antonchigurh** · 10-12-2022, 10:18 PM

Thanks, I’ve read it multiple times and my question is can I get away without the use of HCG but with normal PCT?

First week is 40 nolvadex and 20mg on week 2,3 and 4. Clomid is 100mg for first week and 50mg for weeks 2,3 and 4.

**SampsonandDelilah** · 10-12-2022, 11:41 PM

Hcg isn’t a must have. The clomid/nolva ratios aren’t set in stone.

I’ve successfully used nolva at 40, 40, 20, 20 and clomid at 100, 50, 50, 25 (clomid made me feel like shit)

Good luck