2nd Cycle

[Nomafan]

My first cycle has now been complete for 6 weeks (Deca /Winny) I gained muscle while losing lots of excess fat. I am now thinking onto my second cycle and was wondering what you guys think!!!

wk 1 - 4 Androl/50mg ED : Deca/300mg EW
wk 4 - 10 Deca/300mg EW

I know it is a very plain cycle compared to others that I have seen in this forum. Just need opinions!!!!

[BDTR]

Add test..

[Nomafan]

Where should I add the test!!! Throughout???

[DADDYDBOL]

yes, 500mg test, any ester.

[Nomafan]

so weeks 1-4 androl 50 mg ed
and weeks 1-10 deca 300 mg ew/test 500 mg ew

[BDTR]

Sounds like a plan to me.

[Nomafan]

sounds good, now to just get the pins and the gear!!! Also on such a cycle would I have to take anti-e's???

[Breetai]

sounds good, now to just get the pins and the gear!!! Also on such a cycle would I have to take anti-e's???

get some nolvadex just in case.. and dont forget to end the cycle with clomid!

[Nomafan]

Okay, so
weeks 1 - 4 50mg androl ed
weeks 1 - 10 300mg deca / 500mg test ew
when do I start the chlomid and how long???

[Breetai]

Okay, so
weeks 1 - 4 50mg androl ed
weeks 1 - 10 300mg deca / 500mg test ew
when do I start the chlomid and how long???

start the clomid 3 weeks after your last shot

day 1 300mg
day 2-11 100mg
day 12-21 50mg

[Nomafan]

do i also need the nolva??? If so when do I do that??
Also, can the androl be supplimented by d-bol instead???

[trimunex]

You could run nolva at 10mgs ed throughout or just keep enough on hand in case of gyno symptoms. Remember your taking deca too, so get some bromo for deca sides.

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[Breetai]

do i also need the nolva??? If so when do I do that??

if you get gyno symptoms.. please do a little bit more research before you jump in your cycle.

no, do not use dbol

[Nomafan]

I have taken deca before and didn't have many side effects except for mental things......kinda like went crazy!!!

[Nomafan]

Breetai, that is why I am asking all of these questions!!!

[Breetai]

I have taken deca before and didn't have many side effects except for mental things......kinda like went crazy!!!

you where lucky then. always be safe

[Breetai]

Breetai, that is why I am asking all of these questions!!!

use the search button.

[Nomafan]

What side effects usually occur from the deca (deca dic*.....???)

[DADDYDBOL]

I'm thinking you need to research all aspects
(anti-e's, sides...) before you jump on anything. I'm not saying don't do a cycle but by your questions you might want to read up on what your taking. Nothing against you, just so you know whats going on.

[Breetai]

What side effects usually occur from the deca (deca dic*.....???)

yes probably, if the deca dose is higher then your test dose, and u can get gyno from it.

DADDYDBOL, Amen

[Nomafan]

I was just looking at all my options for the cycle. I know anti-e's are taken when you get symptoms of gyno. I may drop the either the deca or the d-bol from the cycle and just run test/deca or d-bol or androl..... I think that maybe the 3 stack cycle maybe a little too much for my second cycle!!!

[Breetai]

I was just looking at all my options for the cycle. I know anti-e's are taken when you get symptoms of gyno. I may drop the either the deca or the d-bol from the cycle and just run test/deca or d-bol or androl..... I think that maybe the 3 stack cycle maybe a little too much for my second cycle!!!

Age? stats?

[Nomafan]

25, 6'2", 220lbs around 16% BF

[Breetai]

25, 6'2", 220lbs around 16% BF

stack all three compounds if u can afford them all.. if its to expensive, then skip the oral stuffs. just be sure u get the nolvadex and clomid. never do a cycle without them again just my two cents

[Nomafan]

OK, thank you for the info bro!!! Next time I need something I think I will go directly to you for the answers!!!

[DADDYDBOL]

Test wk 1-10 500mg
Deca wk 1-10 400mg
A-Bombs or Dianabol 50mgs ed
Orals for no longer than 21 days
Clomid 3 weeks after last shot.
If prone to gyno 10mg nolva ed or 20mgs eod
This is basic, you can tweek to meet your needs but at your size and with a good diet you should blow up.
Personally I would use Eq or Fina in place of the Deca because at your size the gains you get you will want to keep, the deca/test stack is going to lose quite a bit in post cycle therapy .

[Nomafan]

ok, so replace the deca w/either eq or fina!!!! I will also post some pics tonight to give you guys a better idea!!!

[DADDYDBOL]

You can, these are all good cycles. I didn't like Deca , but thats me. Your gains will be better and you will keep more with say Fina. Alot has to do with what you can get and money.

[Nomafan]

Money really isn't an issue but the getting it will be the hard part. I have 3 or 4 guys that can get different things but we will have to see!!!

[Nomafan]

6/26 front view


6/26 rear view


7/20 front view


Let me know which cycle you think will be best to get some big strength/size gains!!!!