Test E and NPP advice needed

[Limak]

I’m currently on TRT using test e 150mg weekly split into 2 shots. Wanted to do the following to put on more muscle and ease my back pain (joints) but mainly to add muscle. Would this do the trick?

M
NPP 1ml. 100mg
TE .3ml 75mg

W
NPP 1ml. 100mg
TE .3ml 75mg


F
NPP 1ml. 100mg
TE .3ml 75mg

Total
NPP 300mg
TE 225mg

[Iranon]

The long ester Deca is much better for joint pain. Just add 100mg a week and it should make a difference.

[Limak]

Just have NPP on hand. Both turn into nandrolone if I’m not mistaking. Do the dosages look enough to show results?

[Iranon]

I would not take Deca at a dose more then my Test dose.

Best steroid advice on youtube IMO, he covers NPP and many other topics

https://www.youtube.com/user/VigorousSteve/videos

[Limak]

No one else?

[Honkey_Kong]

Personally, I really don't think 300mg of nandrolone is really worth it as far as gains go. I've got a bad back and I'll tell you, it doesn't really make that better for me. It does help with my knees, hips, elbows and wrists. But they'll still hurt if they're injured.

I don't know what your cycle experience is, but I think your test dosage is fine. The whole point in using other steroids is to get them to do the heavy lifting. But that being said, if you were planning on running a higher dosage of NPP, I'd be suggesting you to run a DHT derivative steroid too. But at 300mg a week of npp, you're probably not going to get deca dick considering you're taking 225mg of test.

If you've never run a cycle of gear before, I'd just suggest you keep it simple and run 500mg of test e a week for 12-14 weeks

[xxblazenlowxx]

Im on trt also and currently on a small summer blast.

150mg test a week
350mg Deca a week

Strength is up, I feel good and look better. No negative sides.

I plan to run 25mg of anavar the last 6 weeks

[Limak]

Nice! I was also doing 150mg and blood work came back at 8xx total test. Now I’m adding another 1/3 more along with the NPP.

[Limak]

Nice! I was also doing 150mg and blood work came back at 8xx total test. Now I’m adding another 1/3 more along with the NPP.

[Limak]

Personally, I really don't think 300mg of nandrolone is really worth it as far as gains go. I've got a bad back and I'll tell you, it doesn't really make that better for me. It does help with my knees, hips, elbows and wrists. But they'll still hurt if they're injured.

I don't know what your cycle experience is, but I think your test dosage is fine. The whole point in using other steroids is to get them to do the heavy lifting. But that being said, if you were planning on running a higher dosage of NPP, I'd be suggesting you to run a DHT derivative steroid too. But at 300mg a week of npp, you're probably not going to get deca dick considering you're taking 225mg of test.

If you've never run a cycle of gear before, I'd just suggest you keep it simple and run 500mg of test e a week for 12-14 weeks

I guess the nandrolone doesn’t work the same for everyone but I’m giving it a try. My only exp is being on trt 150mg for the last year. When I was in college I did a sust 250 and dbol cycle at 800mg a week like an idiot which is probably why I had to jump on trt now that I’m 38

[xxblazenlowxx]

150 of test also keeps me in the 8xx

[Honkey_Kong]

I guess the nandrolone doesn’t work the same for everyone but I’m giving it a try. My only exp is being on trt 150mg for the last year. When I was in college I did a sust 250 and dbol cycle at 800mg a week like an idiot which is probably why I had to jump on trt now that I’m 38

College was a long time ago. Just keep it simple with test only.

[Limak]

College was a long time ago. Just keep it simple with test only.

Already started it Friday. Let’s see how it plays out.

[Honkey_Kong]

Already started it Friday. Let’s see how it plays out.

Why ask for advice, if you're just going to do it anyways? Personally, I don't give a shit what you do.

[FryingPanMan244]

you seem to have a real attitude problem...

this is the second time ive seen you be shitty with someone for pretty much no reason... one of them being me, who was only asking for advise lol

[Limak]

Why ask for advice, if you're just going to do it anyways? Personally, I don't give a shit what you do.

Gotta rack up that post count.

[Cuz]

Gotta rack up that post count.

Oh yeah… yaaaahhhhhh now where talkin

[Honkey_Kong]

you seem to have a real attitude problem...

this is the second time ive seen you be shitty with someone for pretty much no reason... one of them being me, who was only asking for advise lol

Pretty much no reason? The guy comes in asking for advice with the intent that he's going to do what he originally planned regardless of what's said. Now I ask "why bother asking?"

But since you brought yourself up. You're some dude who lost a lot of fat (which is good), who clearly doesn't know how to put on muscle or even have a diet to put on muscle, but thinks they are ready for gear. I was being nice by saying you should step back and reconsider running gear for the meantime (which is advice).

[FryingPanMan244]

whatever you wanna believe buddy

i have put on alot of muscle already compared to where i started... so idk where you think i don't know how... as QED

i was merely looking to educate myself, and hadden't decided anything, yet you came in with a massive attitude as if "How dare i, a mere mortal" ask such a thing

sure, some folks will ask and do anyway regardless of what you say, does that mean you should belittle them? nope...

everyone has responsibility for their own actions

you can either help guide those actions, or be a dick...

if its the latter people are far less likely to listen to you, sound advise or not

[Honkey_Kong]

whatever you wanna believe buddy

i have put on alot of muscle already compared to where i started... so idk where you think i don't know how... as QED

i was merely looking to educate myself, and hadden't decided anything, yet you came in with a massive attitude as if "How dare i, a mere mortal" ask such a thing

sure, some folks will ask and do anyway regardless of what you say, does that mean you should belittle them? nope...

everyone has responsibility for their own actions

you can either help guide those actions, or be a dick...

if its the latter people are far less likely to listen to you, sound advise or not

I gave you what I believe to be good advice. You can either use it or not. At the end of the day, you're the one who has to live with the consequences for your actions (both good and bad). I'm hardly being a dick by giving my opinion. And sure people can do whatever they want. But what is the point in asking for advice, when regardless of the response it falls on deaf ears? I mean he asks what we think about this and then once gets feedback responds with "well I started a couple weeks before I made the thread."

It's kind of a waste of everybody's time (including his). Don't you think? So if we're going to call people "dicks," I'd say that's a pretty dick move (that and your tantrum).

[FryingPanMan244]

Well yes, your advise may be good, but as i have previously said, when you go about throwing your dick around and saying things like ("you're gonna do what you want anyway", and "I don't give a shit), you come off as an elitist self important, gate keeping douche...

giving your opinion is not being a dick, its how you give your opinion that is the "Being a dick" part

both sampson and Iranon gave me their opinions, and they were in no way a "Dick" about it, in fact they were extremely helpful, as was your opinion, but again its the way you give it

if you believe it to be a waste of your time and falling on deaf ears, why bother giving your opinion in the first place?

saying people "Have no business using gear" and stuff of that like, is just ignorant, gatekeeping behaviour, which causes more harm and continues the bad stigma of the steroid using community... because who does have business using non-prescribed medication?... no one

by that metric no one here other than those prescribed Trt by a legitimate doctor has business using these compounds, but people do, because they want the benefits of doing so

now some people as you've said will ignore all advise and go ahead anyway doing whatever, and they will suffer for it

but some, like me, wish to learn all the benefits, and drawbacks of using this stuff before we commit to anything as education is the most important thing, for safety and results

the information i received from my post has caused me to pause and continue my education before commiting, that is a benefit is it not?

you say (you're gonna do what you want anyway) and its true, you're not gonna change that, but you can change how someone approaches doing what they want, and maybe help them out, instead of being aggressive and standoffish about it

just some food for thought, ive got nothing against you my dude, all chill here, serious

[SampsonandDelilah]

Asking for advice and then arguing with the given opinion is taxing.

Thank being said, it’s not always what we say but how we say say it.

Food for thought for both sides of the line…

[Honkey_Kong]

Well yes, your advise may be good, but as i have previously said, when you go about throwing your dick around and saying things like ("you're gonna do what you want anyway", and "I don't give a shit), you come off as an elitist self important, gate keeping douche...

giving your opinion is not being a dick, its how you give your opinion that is the "Being a dick" part

both sampson and Iranon gave me their opinions, and they were in no way a "Dick" about it, in fact they were extremely helpful, as was your opinion, but again its the way you give it

if you believe it to be a waste of your time and falling on deaf ears, why bother giving your opinion in the first place?

saying people "Have no business using gear" and stuff of that like, is just ignorant, gatekeeping behaviour, which causes more harm and continues the bad stigma of the steroid using community... because who does have business using non-prescribed medication?... no one

by that metric no one here other than those prescribed Trt by a legitimate doctor has business using these compounds, but people do, because they want the benefits of doing so

now some people as you've said will ignore all advise and go ahead anyway doing whatever, and they will suffer for it

but some, like me, wish to learn all the benefits, and drawbacks of using this stuff before we commit to anything as education is the most important thing, for safety and results

the information i received from my post has caused me to pause and continue my education before commiting, that is a benefit is it not?

you say (you're gonna do what you want anyway) and its true, you're not gonna change that, but you can change how someone approaches doing what they want, and maybe help them out, instead of being aggressive and standoffish about it

just some food for thought, ive got nothing against you my dude, all chill here, serious

I only read about a third of that. Go get your estrogen under control.

[FryingPanMan244]

dude... seriously?... ok naa... you're just an arsehole x-D

have a good life bud

[Cylon357]

So, this thread took an estrogen enriched turn, but that happens sometimes....

OP, did you get the input you were looking for?