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    Dan the Man is offline New Member
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    Lightbulb ok guys some help here on my plan

    I have been working on this for a while, both on paper and in my head..." was told by an old wise man, dont start a cycle until all materials are in hand"
    so this is what i have.

    1)sus. 1500
    2)sus. 1000
    3)sus. 750 refvitB 50/d
    4)sus. 500 refvitB 50/d
    5)dec.1000 refvitB 50/d
    6)dec.1000 refvitB 50/d
    7)dec.800 refvitB 25/d
    8)dec.600
    9)dec.400
    10)dec.200
    11)primo 400
    12)primo 300
    13)primo 200
    14)primo 100
    *also using nolvadex week 2-14. T3 and Clem. week 7-14*
    also maybe throwing in some winnie maybe week 12 - ?. I will keep it at a low dose and ride it for a while( you know dont wanna cloud all my receptors in one shot.) So what do you all think? I am 5'8" 200 just cant seem to get over 200, i think this will do the trick i have cycled on sus and deca combos about 3 times. all comments welcome. Just dont tell my liver what i am doing.
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    Oh ya some EQ wks 7-10 i am thinking 300mg, 200, 200, 100

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    Obviously the old wise man isn't so wise in the cycle department! What does that mean??? If its what I think it means, I think its a terrible cycle. A simple 500 Sust/400 Deca for 10 weeks and 40mg D-bol/day for weeks 1-4 would be fine. Up the Sust to 750mg/week if you feel you need it. Why are you using Nolva during the cycle, are you prone to gyno. If not, just have it on hand just in case, or better yet - take liquidex or arimidex .

    Tell that wise man to go back to school!

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    I think you could definately run the sus 250 longer,like to maybe week 8 or 9

    And since were not telling your liver what's going on?
    I would start taking d-bol for weeks 1-4, because it's ganna take that long for the sus 250 to kick in!

    that way you'll start gaining in 3-4 days, and when your done the d-bol the sus 250 will be kicking in

    I didn't see clomid in the mix of things either?

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    No Flame intended bro....But I really don't get it....

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    your old wise man isn't good at cycles..
    don't taper, .. your only running sust for 4 weeks? it will take that long to kick in good... not starting your deca till week 5?.. makes no sense... do it like this.

    weeks 1-4
    dbol (refvit. B) 50mgs/day

    weeks 1-10
    sust 500mgs
    deca 400mgs

    get some clomid (clomifene citrate) for post cycle, and start it 3 weeks after last injection (bet your old wise man didn't say anything about clomid)
    Day 1,300mgs..next 10 days 100mgs..next 10 days 50mgs

    do it like this and you'll get over 200lbs.

    peace, BG

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    Listen to big-guy...Thats exactly how I would run it also...easy and effective

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    No taper, front load sus first week and continue thereafter, switch to fast acting test week 7 or so, like this:
    week 1: sus 1500mg
    week 2: sus 1000mg
    week 3: sus 1000mg
    week 4: sus 1000mg
    week 5: sus 1000mg
    week 6: sus 1000mg
    week 7: prop 100mg ed
    week 8: prop 100mg ed
    week 9: prop 150mg ed
    week 10: prop 150mg ed

    better yet use enanthate in lieu of sus, its cheaper and just as effective.

    Do dbol 50mg ed for the first 5 weeks only

    Do Deca at 600mg week 1-5

    Do fina at week 6-10 like this:
    week 6: fina 75mg ed
    week 7: fina 75mg ed
    week 9: fina 150mg ed
    week 10: fina 150mg ed

    By beginning of week 11, start clomid 300 (first day), 100 ed (week 11), 50 ed (week 12), 50 ed (week 13)
    arimidex at 1/2mg ed-2mg ed (based on your pre-disposition to estrogen gyno) week 1-14
    proviron 50mg ed week 11, 12
    if pre-disposed to progesterone gyno, add winny 50mg ed week 6-10

    I would leave out primo (too expensive)

    This is just my 2 cents

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