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    Third wake up call !

    I know that words are superfluous and i was playing with fire again. This year in one month i turn 40 and my plan was from there only trt with 2-4 iu hgh and maybe a small dose deca for my joints on winter or maste on summer ,but to cut the story short in 2011 i got a miocarditis ,in 2017 a MI caused by a blood clot at 34 y/o and now 3 months ago i got a 1 cm blood in my left subclavicular artery ,on monday 9 may i wake up with 3 finger from my left hand hurting me bad and al 3 got cold and turn blue ,being scare d from the past with MI i get to ER and they take my blood for troponine and got an EKG ,all good thanks GOD ,all my blood markers was in range ,kidney ,liver,lipid profile ,rbc ,hct only ck and ck-mb was a bit elevated from muscular fever ,after they check me they send me back home and advise to use some ibuprofen gel ,after one week my hand was not better and after i meet a cardiologist at the gym i go back to ER again and at the RMN they found this blood clot ,a was put on xarelto 20 mg for 3 months and not need for a stent .After those 3 months i decide to do some genetic clooting disorder blood work . On the time i got my blood clot i was on cycle week 6 on 600 test cyp 210 tren and 20 dbol with 4 iu hgh but my blood work was best then ever . The lesson from that is blood work not always tell you the entire story..
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    Cool bro, try and use paragraphs next time. Easier on the ole eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by transilvania View Post
    I know that words are superfluous and i was playing with fire again. This year in one month i turn 40 and my plan was from there only trt with 2-4 iu hgh and maybe a small dose deca for my joints on winter or maste on summer ,but to cut the story short in 2011 i got a miocarditis ,in 2017 a MI caused by a blood clot at 34 y/o and now 3 months ago i got a 1 cm blood in my left subclavicular artery ,on monday 9 may i wake up with 3 finger from my left hand hurting me bad and al 3 got cold and turn blue ,being scare d from the past with MI i get to ER and they take my blood for troponine and got an EKG ,all good thanks GOD ,all my blood markers was in range ,kidney ,liver,lipid profile ,rbc ,hct only ck and ck-mb was a bit elevated from muscular fever ,after they check me they send me back home and advise to use some ibuprofen gel ,after one week my hand was not better and after i meet a cardiologist at the gym i go back to ER again and at the RMN they found this blood clot ,a was put on xarelto 20 mg for 3 months and not need for a stent .After those 3 months i decide to do some genetic clooting disorder blood work . On the time i got my blood clot i was on cycle week 6 on 600 test cyp 210 tren and 20 dbol with 4 iu hgh but my blood work was best then ever . The lesson from that is blood work not always tell you the entire story..
    Similar experience here. Viral myocarditis caused by Coxsackie B virus. It really wrecked my heart...ejection fraction down into the 12-15% range. Fired cardiologist, got in with a more modern cardiologist that was connected to Medical University of SC. Was seeing my cardiologist and a professor/specialist from M-USC. Had biventricular pacemaker implanted to help with arrhythmia and to improve function and better cardiac medication.

    Left arm became very swollen biceps was literally 2"/51mm larger than the right. Cardiologist immediately had me in for ultrasound and clots were identified. Started on anticoagulant therapy, apparently my body is resistant to Coumadin. PT/INR could never be accurately checked, it clotted before the sample could be checked. Sent to an oncologist because they specialize in all types of blood disorders. Found out I have a genetic clotting disorder called Leiden Factor V. Started on short term Arixtra therapy due to risks with long term heparin usage.

    Got multiple strains of staph in my blood, but didn't know it. Just knew I was running weird fevers and was very weak. Went to cardiologist, they hooked me up and discovered I had coughed loose a pacemaker lead. Sent for lead revision and at admission to hospital they said I was running fever of 103.8F. Was in and out of it/in very bad shape...fever hit 104.3F, wasn't really expected to recover Had pacemaker removed to clear staph from my body.

    Wore IV pump for 12 weeks with 2 lines going into artery my arm and running over to my heart. They wanted to implant a Greenfield filter/ IVC device to catch blood clots but I refused. I didn't want anything artificial in my body again after the staph problems. (ended up with a bunch of hardware in my neck, but anyway....).

    Eventually worked back up my heart to 40% through stubbornness and cardio, plus the better meds the specialist from USC and my cardiologist put me on.

    Started TRT through my PCP about 6-8 years ago. Have had no issues yet. Currently on .33cc of test cyp twice per week.

    So, get your clotting problem straightened out. If it's a genetic issue, keep your Hct and platelet levels in range. Stay well hydrated.

    Don't give up hope. There's absolutely nothing unhealthy about maintaining a healthy testosterone level , in my opinion and my experience.

    At my last cardiologist appointment, my active cardiac problems are:

    Left bundle branch block
    Cardiomyopathy
    Congestive heart failure
    Mitral valve disorder
    Atrial fibrillation
    Coagulopathy
    Left ventricular hypertrophy

    PM if you have questions. Don't know if I'll have an answer, but if I can help, I will.

    Edit: I may have left out some details, but I hit all of the major points.
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    Ai grija de tine. I figure that if I can’t build it on a Trt dose, then it’s not meant to be. Health is more important than muscles.

    Now I have to figure out where to get some test in Ro because the my luggage apparently is still in the US. Visiting family for 3 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Similar experience here. Viral myocarditis caused by Coxsackie B virus. It really wrecked my heart...ejection fraction down into the 12-15% range. Fired cardiologist, got in with a more modern cardiologist that was connected to Medical University of SC. Was seeing my cardiologist and a professor/specialist from M-USC. Had biventricular pacemaker implanted to help with arrhythmia and to improve function and better cardiac medication.

    Left arm became very swollen biceps was literally 2"/51mm larger than the right. Cardiologist immediately had me in for ultrasound and clots were identified. Started on anticoagulant therapy, apparently my body is resistant to Coumadin. PT/INR could never be accurately checked, it clotted before the sample could be checked. Sent to an oncologist because they specialize in all types of blood disorders. Found out I have a genetic clotting disorder called Leiden Factor V. Started on short term Arixtra therapy due to risks with long term heparin usage.

    Got multiple strains of staph in my blood, but didn't know it. Just knew I was running weird fevers and was very weak. Went to cardiologist, they hooked me up and discovered I had coughed loose a pacemaker lead. Sent for lead revision and at admission to hospital they said I was running fever of 103.8F. Was in and out of it/in very bad shape...fever hit 104.3F, wasn't really expected to recover Had pacemaker removed to clear staph from my body.

    Wore IV pump for 12 weeks with 2 lines going into artery my arm and running over to my heart. They wanted to implant a Greenfield filter/ IVC device to catch blood clots but I refused. I didn't want anything artificial in my body again after the staph problems. (ended up with a bunch of hardware in my neck, but anyway....).

    Eventually worked back up my heart to 40% through stubbornness and cardio, plus the better meds the specialist from USC and my cardiologist put me on.

    Started TRT through my PCP about 6-8 years ago. Have had no issues yet. Currently on .33cc of test cyp twice per week.

    So, get your clotting problem straightened out. If it's a genetic issue, keep your Hct and platelet levels in range. Stay well hydrated.

    Don't give up hope. There's absolutely nothing unhealthy about maintaining a healthy testosterone level , in my opinion and my experience.

    At my last cardiologist appointment, my active cardiac problems are:

    Left bundle branch block
    Cardiomyopathy
    Congestive heart failure
    Mitral valve disorder
    Atrial fibrillation
    Coagulopathy
    Left ventricular hypertrophy

    PM if you have questions. Don't know if I'll have an answer, but if I can help, I will.

    Edit: I may have left out some details, but I hit all of the major points.
    Thanks bro ! They test me for Coxsackie b on myocarditis but was negative so they didint figure out from what i got it ,my ejection fraction got up quick and in a week or two i was back on training ,but after my MI they discover a mild mitral insufficiency grade 2 most likely acquired after the heart attack but no other problems and in one month i was alowed to train again . After this last scare i stop my cycle cold turkey and for one month i did some hcg and after i start 25 mg subq test MwF for the next month but my sex drive was off so i bump to 25 mg ed from monday-Friday with a total 125 mg week ,last monday i got my blood work to know were im at 12 weeks after blood clot and surprise my hct hgb and rbc are elevated other markers are all in range
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    Quote Originally Posted by transilvania View Post
    Thanks bro ! They test me for Coxsackie b on myocarditis but was negative so they didint figure out from what i got it ,my ejection fraction got up quick and in a week or two i was back on training ,but after my MI they discover a mild mitral insufficiency grade 2 most likely acquired after the heart attack but no other problems and in one month i was alowed to train again . After this last scare i stop my cycle cold turkey and for one month i did some hcg and after i start 25 mg subq test MwF for the next month but my sex drive was off so i bump to 25 mg ed from monday-Friday with a total 125 mg week ,last monday i got my blood work to know were im at 12 weeks after blood clot and surprise my hct hgb and rbc are elevated other markers are all in range
    My Hct and Hgb have always been upper end of the range/elevated. I think it's related to the clotting disorder since it's been a lifelong thing.

    I donate/do what is needed to keep it in range and it keeps my Dr. happy enough so that she won't mess around with my testosterone dosage.

    Have they identified which clotting disorder you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    My Hct and Hgb have always been upper end of the range/elevated. I think it's related to the clotting disorder since it's been a lifelong thing.

    I donate/do what is needed to keep it in range and it keeps my Dr. happy enough so that she won't mess around with my testosterone dosage.

    Have they identified which clotting disorder you have?
    Righ now im still on xarelto for the next 2 weeks and after i finish ,i have to wait 2 more weeks to get out of my sistem and got blood work for 5 blood clooting dissorder so i cant donate blood ,i was on baby aspirin and 2000fu Nattokinase 3 months ago when i got this blood clot with normal rbc hct INR and still got it

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    This is from ER first time after they send me home
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    Quote Originally Posted by transilvania View Post
    Righ now im still on xarelto for the next 2 weeks and after i finish ,i have to wait 2 more weeks to get out of my sistem and got blood work for 5 blood clooting dissorder so i cant donate blood ,i was on baby aspirin and 2000fu Nattokinase 3 months ago when i got this blood clot with normal rbc hct INR and still got it
    When you go for the blood draw for your clotting disorder diagnosis, they may draw quite a few samples. Don't let it worry you, that is normal.
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    Hey TM,

    For the Test hook up: I would try a small, hardcore gym. Tell the guy behind the counter what you need, your situation, blah, blah, blah...

    Sounds hair brained, but I think it might just work; short of paying to visit a private physician...

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    When you go for the blood draw for your clotting disorder diagnosis, they may draw quite a few samples. Don't let it worry you, that is normal.
    Hematology doctor told me to get peripheral blood smear ,factor v leiding ,protein c ,protein s,antitrombin lll and factor ll

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    Quote Originally Posted by transilvania View Post
    Hematology doctor told me to get peripheral blood smear ,factor v leiding ,protein c ,protein s,antitrombin lll and factor ll
    Hopefully, they're sending an order for the draw. Please share the results when you get them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Hopefully, they're sending an order for the draw. Please share the results when you get them.
    Of course ! How your plattelets numbers was at the time you got your blood clot , same as you my rbc hct is always at the high end even if i look at some blood work from 20 years ago but what i found is that when i had the heart attack my rbc hct hgb was in range but my plt numbers was at the high end 402 range 150-450 and now with this blood clot same rbc hgb hct in range and plt 309 first time and 376 after one week when i return back to ER with my hand and ussualy my plt sit around 230-240 i dont know if have something to do ,and my Aptt is lower than minim normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by transilvania View Post
    Of course ! How your plattelets numbers was at the time you got your blood clot , same as you my rbc hct is always at the high end even if i look at some blood work from 20 years ago but what i found is that when i had the heart attack my rbc hct hgb was in range but my plt numbers was at the high end 402 range 150-450 and now with this blood clot same rbc hgb hct in range and plt 309 first time and 376 after one week when i return back to ER with my hand and ussualy my plt sit around 230-240 i dont know if have something to do ,and my Aptt is lower than minim normal
    My platelets were in range, I had recently done a double platelet donation. Definitely try to keep your platelets in range. Really, if you can keep all your typical markers, Hct, Hgb, and platelet count in range, it would be best.

    Just please remember one thing. I stated I don't think there's a thing wrong maintaining a normal testosterone value. I wouldn't consider a cycle or blast for a long time. Get the clotting issue addressed first.
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    I think if i decide to go on trt rute i will up my Nattokinase re-introduce ip6 and enalapril and this is most likley because every time i go off for 12-16 weeks including pct 4 to 6 weeks my blood work got much worse and my fasted blood sugars tend to rise and at 40 y/o after 20 years with one or two cycles of 8-12 weeks in recent years even if my free test sit around 12-14 on the scale of 1-28 i felt off and my sex drive is not great at all my body composition is fucked up

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    My platelets were in range, I had recently done a double platelet donation. Definitely try to keep your platelets in range. Really, if you can keep all your typical markers, Hct, Hgb, and platelet count in range, it would be best.

    Just please remember one thing. I stated I don't think there's a thing wrong maintaining a normal testosterone value. I wouldn't consider a cycle or blast for a long time. Get the clotting issue addressed first.
    I perfectly understand you ,i read alot of study about low test and how bad is for your cardiovascular sistem ,my cycle days are gone im still in doubt if to run trt all year round i know its a life committed or in our case 3x8 or 2x12 weeks year starting at 100 mg week and bumping to one amp of 200-250 mg split in eod shots its a better idea ..do you still use something for factor v like coumandin ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by transilvania View Post
    I perfectly understand you ,i read alot of study about low test and how bad is for your cardiovascular sistem ,my cycle days are gone im still in doubt if to run trt all year round i know its a life committed or in our case 3x8 or 2x12 weeks year starting at 100 mg week and bumping to one amp of 200-250 mg split in eod shots its a better idea ..do you still use something for factor v like coumandin ??
    Coumadin doesn't affect my clotting. The only thing that worked for me was Arixtra, a low molecular weight heparin, but the oncologist didn't want me on it long term.

    Their solution was to implant a device like an IVC device or a Greenfield filter, but I refused to do so. Now, I'm glad I did. They have had problems with those devices not holding up well.

    My body doesn't respond normally to some medicines. The had me on digoxin for atrial fibrillation, but I could never hit a therapeutic level, even @ 200 mcg, which is a pretty strong dose. They told me to keep taking it anyway, but my thoughts are if I can't maintain a therapeutic level, why should I take it, so I don't.

    Honestly, Ice not had any problems after keeping my blood values in check. Also, I drink plenty of fluids.

    Current heart meds are:
    Coreg ( carvedilol)- 6.25mg b.i.d.
    Atacand ( candesartan) 4 mg b.i.d
    Maxzide ( triamaterene/hctz). 75/50 daily
    Klor-con (potassium) - 20meq b.i.d..

    I only included the potassium because you need to keep those electrolytes in range if they aren't in range.

    I would run a TRT to maintain a healthy T level all of the time. Having hormone levels bouncing around is not a good thing, in my opinion.
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    I just got my results from the blood work that my hematologist and cardiologist ask for and all came back negative or in range ,i know that are a lot of others clooting factors but my hematologist say that some of them are a sort of a marketing thing to make you pay extra cash for them ,and i was thinking to share here the results:
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