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Thread: New Cycle opinions after 2.5 Years Break / with pics from previous cycle

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    New Cycle opinions after 2.5 Years Break / with pics from previous cycle

    Hello everyone, iím seeking opinions for my new cycle after a 2.5 years break.

    I uploaded my progress pics from my previous cycle from 2.5 years ago. Iím 1.80 in height and was about 83-85kg with decent amount of fat as you can see on of my pictures before starting the cycle. I trained 3 months naturally in the beginning and got decent amount of muscle fast. I couldnít upload more than 8 pics iím sorry for that i couldnít post it. But on the 4th month i started using dbol around 20-30mg a day (which game me lots of water weight fast in the first month visible on the side chest bicep pic) with 250mg test e + 250mg eq a week for around 10 weeks then upped my dosage to 500mg test e + 500mg eq until the 20ish weeks. On the pictures i wear black shirt and shorts i was totaly 9 months in (5-6 months in cycle) around 102kg with 10-15 bf i donít really know never mesured it but my abs were clearly visible.

    I was 74kg after the break and started the gym again this time never to give up again. I quickly gained around 10kg naturally in a month then started a cycle again with 500mg test and 500mg eq a month ago. I now weight 90kg around 15-17% bodyfat i suppose (abs still visible) again i couldnít upload the pics.

    Iím seeking opinions if i should add more potent anabolic agent or agents to my cycle to speed up the progress . Iím scared of using deca because of itís possible sides (iím thinking iím hyper responding to anabolics and experiencing all the sides so fast)

    I can add anadrol 50mg a day maybe or tren with the eq and continue with it but canít be sure really. I would like to fasten this progress a bit because i know eq is slowly building up and i personally donít like the RBC thing comes with it as well.

    Every opinion is welcome. And thank you for reading my post.
    Regards to everyone
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    Looks like you got great results the first time…how was your pct and recovery. If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. I’d run it again and see if you get a similar response. With only one cycle under your belt, your receptors are still prime and I bet you can duplicate that success. My initial thoughts anyways, save the big guns for later down the road (if you indeed go that way).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    What is your goal?
    My goal is to keep around 105 107kg weight without needing to cut a lot with an acceptable bodyfat all year around. I can say classic physique style. I know my muscles arent mature yet its just around 9 months of previous work totally.

    An experienced point of view would be awesome.
    Thank you for the reply as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Looks like you got great results the first time…how was your pct and recovery. If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. I’d run it again and see if you get a similar response. With only one cycle under your belt, your receptors are still prime and I bet you can duplicate that success. My initial thoughts anyways, save the big guns for later down the road (if you indeed go that way).

    Welcome to the boards
    Thank you for the reply. I had some irl issues and couldnt do any pct but kept the most of gains for around 5 months after with no training. I know thats stupid but my life was mess and i regret it when i look back. My libido was increasing and decreasing and took like a year to be fully functional again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostinheart View Post
    Thank you for the reply. I had some irl issues and couldnt do any pct but kept the most of gains for around 5 months after with no training. I know thats stupid but my life was mess and i regret it when i look back. My libido was increasing and decreasing and took like a year to be fully functional again.
    Welcome to being human, I like you already.

    Your goals are doable and pct or cruising is key. Good recognition of past failures and successes tells me you’re in tune. I’m just some dude though (a boomer according to some )

    Truly though, some great fellas here. Post your stats, your goals, your ideas and be open to what you hear. Take it or leave it. Have thick skin and you’ll be rewarded. The ones who have been around are some of the best (I think so anyways). This place helped me immensely and it’s nice to help pay it back

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    You’ve got a great wide build (no homo) wide chest too, your muscle memory will come back quickly. Your before and after pics are evident. I’d repeat your process, follow the same game plan except PCT and do some blood work before, during and after
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    You’ve got a great wide build (no homo) wide chest too, your muscle memory will come back quickly. Your before and after pics are evident. I’d repeat your process, follow the same game plan except PCT and do some blood work before, during and after
    Thank you for your suggestions. Much appreciated. I am just so hyped and cant wait thats my lil issue atm ))
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    I would say at best you are 15% but holding quite a bit of water. My opinion on this never changes, never use oral steroids esp harsh ones in the off season, orals are for competition only and never more then 4 weeks. You look great, good structure, good size, legs need work. Love Deca and with Deca you do not need much, just run 200mg a week, that is enough.
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    Excellent progress! Agree with the guys above. Rinse and repeat.

    Always better to keep things moderate and safe imho. I'd rather see someone stay on lower doses that don't require ancillaries for a longer term than short, heavy cycles that can much more easily impact your health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iranon View Post
    I would say at best you are 15% but holding quite a bit of water. My opinion on this never changes, never use oral steroids esp harsh ones in the off season, orals are for competition only and never more then 4 weeks. You look great, good structure, good size, legs need work. Love Deca and with Deca you do not need much, just run 200mg a week, that is enough.
    Thank you for your comments. As i mentioned upon sight im having panic attack of deca . I have a phobia lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Excellent progress! Agree with the guys above. Rinse and repeat.

    Always better to keep things moderate and safe imho. I'd rather see someone stay on lower doses that don't require ancillaries for a longer term than short, heavy cycles that can much more easily impact your health.
    Thank you for your suggestions. I will be continuing with 500test e and 500 eq then without additinonal oral or injectable

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    Uploaded 2 pics of the current progress.

    First picture is the day i started gym(09 August 2022 - 74kg)


    Second picture is the current status ( 1.5 months in - started this cycle 1 month ago - 90kg)
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    Crazy tiny waist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostinheart View Post
    Thank you for your comments. As i mentioned upon sight im having panic attack of deca. I have a phobia lol
    There is a real simple solution: don't run deca . The mental part of life is real. And there is no law that says we all have to run ALL of the compounds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    There is a real simple solution: don't run deca . The mental part of life is real. And there is no law that says we all have to run ALL of the compounds!
    Maybe i’m overreacting but i’m sure my beanbag won’t work for a decade if i run deca once haha

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    I would add Primo or EQ, love primo but these drugs will not make you massive is a short span but why rush it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostinheart View Post
    Maybe i’m overreacting but i’m sure my beanbag won’t work for a decade if i run deca once haha

    The secret to 19nors is masteron and proviron .

    Shhhh, don’t tell. I never ever share that with anyone

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    Final word of advice…

    Don’t ever turn your back on this guy again.

    Lulu Lemons and a pink tank top? I may or may not have checked out his ass before I realized it was a dude

    Doesn’t your gym have a dress code? Like “No men wearing yoga pants”!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Final word of advice…

    Don’t ever turn your back on this guy again.

    Lulu Lemons and a pink tank top? I may or may not have checked out his ass before I realized it was a dude

    Doesn’t your gym have a dress code? Like “No men wearing yoga pants”!

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    LOL! Tbh he was gay, staring at me sometimes i caught his attention but lol. Free country every woman sorry everyone is free to wear whatever they want )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iranon View Post
    I would add Primo or EQ, love primo but these drugs will not make you massive is a short span but why rush it.
    Now NPP is really tempting. I’ve done some research and users are generally happy with the results and noticeably shorter ester. If i try tho, would it be wise to pin twice a week with the rest of my loser stack instead of EOD?

    (I’m already using EQ 500mg every week by the way)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostinheart View Post
    LOL! Tbh he was gay, staring at me sometimes i caught his attention but lol. Free country every woman sorry everyone is free to wear whatever they want )

    As they should be, great attitude and I agree. Was just being silly. People should be allowed to wear what they want and love who they want. Just couldn’t pass it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    The secret to 19nors is masteron and proviron .

    Shhhh, don’t tell. I never ever share that with anyone
    "Conan, what is good in life?"

    "Primo, masteron, and proviron"

    <grunts of agreement>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    "Conan, what is good in life?"

    "Primo, masteron , and proviron "

    <grunts of agreement>

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    you could not pay me to ever run deca again, my dick would kill me.
    that being said, man you look great. you respond amazing. stay with the test and play with ur diet.

    keep going buddy, looking forward to end of cycle pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    The secret to 19nors is masteron and proviron .

    Shhhh, don’t tell. I never ever share that with anyone
    Haha ok. I will keep this secret until the day i disappear from this mortal world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    you could not pay me to ever run deca again, my dick would kill me.
    that being said, man you look great. you respond amazing. stay with the test and play with ur diet.

    keep going buddy, looking forward to end of cycle pics
    Maybe thinking to try NPP (scared face) but i’m not sure if it will be ok to pin it twice a week instead of EOD which makes me sick. Half life is 4.5 days i suppose it’d be a little bit more deficient in the day 3 but not really sure, i may need professional advice

    Thanks for your thoughts. Will not give up ever this time until i become a monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    And var....
    What aboud tbol instead of var? Let the tbol and var War begin
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Excellent progress! Agree with the guys above. Rinse and repeat.

    Always better to keep things moderate and safe imho. I'd rather see someone stay on lower doses that don't require ancillaries for a longer term than short, heavy cycles that can much more easily impact your health.
    Echo this ^^^^

    Didnt get your age btw im guessing <25?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Echo this ^^^^

    Didnt get your age btw im guessing <25?
    33 when i started, now i’m 37. Look younger tho
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    If youre just trying to get back from it, probably a single compound of lower dose will do it.
    Why rush it? Thats what I would do personally.

    Save the EQ for next time . I will say though, you respond damn good to gear.
    And if youre really worrief about deca ,dont even bother. There are plenty of better compounds imo than 19-nors.
    In the end you have to look at the risk to benefit ratio.
    You have tried test and Eq.
    Did you get blood work to see where they put you healthwise and remedy any occuring problems?
    If alp fared well from those compounds,like others said,why change it?
    Good luck on your journey bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostinheart View Post
    What aboud tbol instead of var? Let the tbol and var War begin
    Not a war, just an observation....

    Tbol gives me acid reflux and var does not. Both, IIRC, cause(d) a bit of sleep issues (insomnia is too strong a word)... var for sure on the sleep, I can't remember for sure about the tbol.

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    Bro OP is house AF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellshii View Post
    If youre just trying to get back from it, probably a single compound of lower dose will do it.
    Why rush it? Thats what I would do personally.

    Save the EQ for next time . I will say though, you respond damn good to gear.
    And if youre really worrief about deca ,dont even bother. There are plenty of better compounds imo than 19-nors.
    In the end you have to look at the risk to benefit ratio.
    You have tried test and Eq.
    Did you get blood work to see where they put you healthwise and remedy any occuring problems?
    If alp fared well from those compounds,like others said,why change it?
    Good luck on your journey bro!
    Thanks for your comments. Well when i started again and everytime i look at my pics i just want to get there and beyond asap )) But what you say is the wise thing to do. I too agree that going slower with lower doses is much better for health and the real tissue is more important than the visual appearance.

    I have done bloodwork every month on my previous cycle and beginning of this cycle as well. Everything was quite normal back then. I had little bit more RBC than the normal range eq didn’t affect my rbc much no headache or high bp, hdl ldl were little above and under limits and creatinine was above the limit, e2 was was 2x of the normal range (i have naturally high e2) As of now, before i started this cycle all my stats were in range, Total test was close to the max. I will give bloodwork in few days since it has been a month. But still i don’t feel any issues right now. Blood pressure is around 127-75.

    I was tempted by NPP but i will continue with these for now. thank you again for your great comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcolepticshark View Post
    Bro OP is house AF.
    What does that mean? I’m unfamiliar with that definition Doctor house? Lol

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    Never used any of them. But sometimes i check reddit posts and probably Tbol is mostly recommended among bb’ers.

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