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    Nandrolone with TRT

    Wrapped up my last cycle about 8 weeks ago and back to my prescribed TRT dose of 0.5ml of 100mg/ml test cyp twice per week.

    Wanted to get your feedback on a cruising dose of nandrolone /deca .

    What would be a meaningful dose alongside my TRT dose to make some size/strength gains?

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    150 mg did not affect my blood work negatively.

    I currently use 100 mg and have gone a high as 350mg with 150mg test a week.

    No deca dick issues at the doses above.

    Was not impressed with the 350 mg of deca a week, I was expecting more.
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    Everyone is different but even 200 mgs per week can make a noticible difference if training and nutrition are on point. If not, nothing will help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxblazenlowxx View Post
    150 mg did not affect my blood work negatively.

    I currently use 100 mg and have gone a high as 350mg with 150mg test a week.

    No deca dick issues at the doses above.

    Was not impressed with the 350 mg of deca a week, I was expecting more.

    But it will falsly elevate standard ECLIA testosterone testing. ECLIA is most labs default test. How much it effects it will range but it definitly effects it. It's listed as an interference substance in the ECLIA testing methodology. Need to always run LC/MS-MS for accuracy when running nandrolones. Even when running a low dose as many do on TRT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxblazenlowxx View Post
    150 mg did not affect my blood work negatively.

    I currently use 100 mg and have gone a high as 350mg with 150mg test a week.

    No deca dick issues at the doses above.

    Was not impressed with the 350 mg of deca a week, I was expecting more.
    Ya I agree, I'm finding the same as well, I came off cycle and back to my script dose, and didn't really notice any significant changes in strength, so don't really see much of difference running high doses. I will say I am feeling/looking smaller, but my strength is still there.

    So don't want to overdo It, but maximize my results, just looking for a starting point that most would recommend and adjust as needed. Again this is keeping in mind that I'll be cruising for an extended period of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxblazenlowxx View Post
    150 mg did not affect my blood work negatively.

    I currently use 100 mg and have gone a high as 350mg with 150mg test a week.

    No deca dick issues at the doses above.

    Was not impressed with the 350 mg of deca a week, I was expecting more.
    Also, are you on TRT or running a test level to match the deca? Because I'm on a pretty low dose of TRT... so wondering if I should be increasing that to match it also or can I stay where I am and add in the higher dose of deca.

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    I have a vial from my clinic that I didnt finish.
    I was taking low dose to help with joint pain and of course another compound will help.
    But mentally im super sensitive to Deca .I read about a lot of guys over various subs and youtube comments that crusing on 50-100 a week makes the joints feel like my dick on a saturday night at a strip club.
    But it takes a while to feel it . I never felt anything better personally.So I stopped using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjsevens View Post
    Also, are you on TRT or running a test level to match the deca? Because I'm on a pretty low dose of TRT... so wondering if I should be increasing that to match it also or can I stay where I am and add in the higher dose of deca.
    Bump... Wondering if anyone can provide feedback on whether I should be running an equal or higher dose of TRT to match meaningful cruise dose of deca ...

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjsevens View Post
    Wrapped up my last cycle about 8 weeks ago and back to my prescribed TRT dose of 0.5ml of 100mg/ml test cyp twice per week.

    Wanted to get your feedback on a cruising dose of nandrolone /deca .

    What would be a meaningful dose alongside my TRT dose to make some size/strength gains?
    I use 150 mg of test E weekly for Trt and have recently incorporated 125 mg of Deca with that and have had good results, there are many times when I have been doing over a gram a week just with test, so I’m really happy to be growing on such low doses, the Deca does help with my joints and that’s why it was incorporated
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    I myself would not take deca or NPP with that small amount of testosterone … that’s just my opinion. Suggestion…Up your test to at least 400mg/week & deca 200mg/week…that’s as low of mgs per week that I would do…run it for 8 more weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjsevens View Post
    Bump... Wondering if anyone can provide feedback on whether I should be running an equal or higher dose of TRT to match meaningful cruise dose of deca ...

    Thanks!
    Yes I am on TRT I usually use 125mg of test a week.

    I have had no issues with running deca higer then test, running higher test then deca is BS.

    Experiment with low doses yourself and find what works for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    But it will falsly elevate standard ECLIA testosterone testing. ECLIA is most labs default test. How much it effects it will range but it definitly effects it. It's listed as an interference substance in the ECLIA testing methodology. Need to always run LC/MS-MS for accuracy when running nandrolones. Even when running a low dose as many do on TRT.

    And because of you Im aware of this and request LC MS/MS when I have my blood pulled. This is sometimes a difficult explanation.

    Thanks Kel

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    Just my 2 cents on a good cruising dosage, from what I find works well for me.
    200mg Test C/200mg Deca . In between my bloodwork I cycle NPP, at around 200/300mg. I find this works well. The Deca is necessary to keep all my joint pains at bay, while the couple of months of NPP(bringing my total nandrolone up to 400/500mg/week, helps with strength, and very little with weight gain. I have to say, after testing both NPP and Deca, they BOTH took about 5 weeks for me to feel any joint relief, but either one did work just as well.
    On a test/deca cycle a while back, I quit the deca about a month before my doc ordered my BW. My total test was still a little over 1700, so it takes longer than a month to get back to normal from the test alone(for me that is around 1400). I explained to my doc about the deca skewing the test numbers, and he understood, but was unaware of the LS/MC-MC testing methodology. I found there was a test code for this at Quest and will look into getting it, for my peace of mind. But, if my doc remains cool with my elevated total test and keeps writing Test C scripts for me, I really don't care.
    I believe test/deca-npp is one of the safest combos(when not abused) out there. And if you had to experiment with an oral, and again, to be on the safest side, I vote Anavar . I find that 50mg/day is my sweet spot, anything less and I get nothing from it.
    One more thing I found, not related to Deca, but still cool.
    While I was on a test/anavar cycle a year ago, I thought the Anavar was giving me unbelievable vascularity, and when I got off the anavar I kept it to this day. In hindsight, I had also just started using Cialis(tadalafil)5mg/day. This was to help with my bathroom visits and BP, and well yeah, why not the other thing!! It is the reason for veins popping out where I didn't know I had them, chest/shoulders/arms/legs....I'd advise at least giving it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willnotquit View Post
    I myself would not take deca or NPP with that small amount of testosterone… that’s just my opinion. Suggestion…Up your test to at least 400mg/week & deca 200mg/week…that’s as low of mgs per week that I would do…run it for 8 more weeks.
    Thanks for the feedback... But this now sounds more like a blast then a cruise dose. What I'm looking for really is get somewhat of a "healthy" balance where I can still make meaning gains as mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fossil View Post
    Just my 2 cents on a good cruising dosage, from what I find works well for me.
    200mg Test C/200mg Deca . In between my bloodwork I cycle NPP, at around 200/300mg. I find this works well. The Deca is necessary to keep all my joint pains at bay, while the couple of months of NPP(bringing my total nandrolone up to 400/500mg/week, helps with strength, and very little with weight gain. I have to say, after testing both NPP and Deca, they BOTH took about 5 weeks for me to feel any joint relief, but either one did work just as well.
    On a test/deca cycle a while back, I quit the deca about a month before my doc ordered my BW. My total test was still a little over 1700, so it takes longer than a month to get back to normal from the test alone(for me that is around 1400). I explained to my doc about the deca skewing the test numbers, and he understood, but was unaware of the LS/MC-MC testing methodology. I found there was a test code for this at Quest and will look into getting it, for my peace of mind. But, if my doc remains cool with my elevated total test and keeps writing Test C scripts for me, I really don't care.
    I believe test/deca-npp is one of the safest combos(when not abused) out there. And if you had to experiment with an oral, and again, to be on the safest side, I vote Anavar . I find that 50mg/day is my sweet spot, anything less and I get nothing from it.
    One more thing I found, not related to Deca, but still cool.
    While I was on a test/anavar cycle a year ago, I thought the Anavar was giving me unbelievable vascularity, and when I got off the anavar I kept it to this day. In hindsight, I had also just started using Cialis(tadalafil)5mg/day. This was to help with my bathroom visits and BP, and well yeah, why not the other thing!! It is the reason for veins popping out where I didn't know I had them, chest/shoulders/arms/legs....I'd advise at least giving it a try.
    Can you offer more insight into NPP and how adding this in will help? I keep seeing it pop up here and there on the forum, but don't know anything about it. Thanks!

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    For what its worth I dropped Deca 3 weeks ago and I feel way less agitated. Interested to see if the feeling comes back when I reintroduce it.

    My wife even noticed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjsevens View Post
    Thanks for the feedback... But this now sounds more like a blast then a cruise dose. What I'm looking for really is get somewhat of a "healthy" balance where I can still make meaning gains as mentioned.
    Currently on 200mg test and 300mg deca . I don’t have any blood work to support anything.. but anecdotal I feel good. Now that it’s finally saturated in my system, the normal aches and pains I deal with regularly have started to fade out. Strength has increased slightly, and I have full look. First time running it at “therapeutic” doses, if 300mg is still considered that or not is debatable. Started out at 200mg but got impatient, forgetting how long deca can take to reach optimum levels. Libido is the same, and I take 5mg cialis daily so I’m not sure about ED issues. Overall I’m enjoying it
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    Quote Originally Posted by fossil View Post
    Just my 2 cents on a good cruising dosage, from what I find works well for me.
    200mg Test C/200mg Deca . In between my bloodwork I cycle NPP, at around 200/300mg. I find this works well. The Deca is necessary to keep all my joint pains at bay, while the couple of months of NPP(bringing my total nandrolone up to 400/500mg/week, helps with strength, and very little with weight gain. I have to say, after testing both NPP and Deca, they BOTH took about 5 weeks for me to feel any joint relief, but either one did work just as well.
    On a test/deca cycle a while back, I quit the deca about a month before my doc ordered my BW. My total test was still a little over 1700, so it takes longer than a month to get back to normal from the test alone(for me that is around 1400). I explained to my doc about the deca skewing the test numbers, and he understood, but was unaware of the LS/MC-MC testing methodology. I found there was a test code for this at Quest and will look into getting it, for my peace of mind. But, if my doc remains cool with my elevated total test and keeps writing Test C scripts for me, I really don't care.
    I believe test/deca-npp is one of the safest combos(when not abused) out there. And if you had to experiment with an oral, and again, to be on the safest side, I vote Anavar . I find that 50mg/day is my sweet spot, anything less and I get nothing from it.
    One more thing I found, not related to Deca, but still cool.
    While I was on a test/anavar cycle a year ago, I thought the Anavar was giving me unbelievable vascularity, and when I got off the anavar I kept it to this day. In hindsight, I had also just started using Cialis(tadalafil)5mg/day. This was to help with my bathroom visits and BP, and well yeah, why not the other thing!! It is the reason for veins popping out where I didn't know I had them, chest/shoulders/arms/legs....I'd advise at least giving it a try.
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    Great info

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    I’m new to the scene. Been a junkie all my life, long story short got on gear and cleaned my life up. Clean for 2 years now. Anyway I’m running a cruise of 300mgs of test a week. 250 iu HCG . .5 adex every 3 days with a bite of a Caber every so often because the HCG spiked my prolactin. I just got cervical disc replacement in my neck a month ago and am back at the gym already. I feel like my test isn’t hitting me like it was before. I don’t wanna blast again because I straight up got GYNO last time. Had to do a rigorous letro and Raloxifene cycle. Literally the worst time of my adult life. My penis wouldn’t work. So I’m really interested in Deca because of the joint thing. I can’t lift anything above my shoulder yet and I’m thinking Deca would help. What is your advice? Deca or NPP? How much and can I cruise on it indefinitely?

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